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Is the formatting of the forums off for anyone else? The center column is suddenly very narrow - makes it hard to read long threads.

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Yes, same here. Even on a desktop it is messed up. Also, you don't seem to be able to quote without errors.

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Yes, same here. Even on a desktop it is messed up. Also, you don't seem to be able to quote without errors.


It works and looks fine for me

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It seemed once again the Annapolis Hawks put together another great club team at the 2026 level this past Spring in HOCO but had some hiccups over the summer. PLC came on strong with some added Hawks players from last year along with Looney's and BLC. FCA 2026 played A ball last year but I can see them moving to AA this upcoming year and opening some eyes. This is a fun age to watch for sure!

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Long way from HOCO but this should be a fun year. Hope PLC and Green Hornets both move up to AA. Think there are two teams that could have played up.

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heard PLC is folding, doubt they will make much of an impact even f they survive

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
heard PLC is folding, doubt they will make much of an impact even f they survive


I heard over 75 kids showed up at Crabs tryouts...don’t believe everything you hear.

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heard PLC is folding, doubt they will make much of an impact even f they survive


I heard over 75 kids showed up at Crabs tryouts...don’t believe everything you hear.


the coaches from that plc team have left, so think there might be something to it

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heard PLC is folding, doubt they will make much of an impact even f they survive


I heard over 75 kids showed up at Crabs tryouts...don’t believe everything you hear.


the coaches from that plc team have left, so think there might be something to it



There were nowhere near 75 kids at Crabs. There were 24, my kid included.

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What is PLC and how are they related to Crabs? Sorry - just getting familiar.

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Where are the PLC coaches going? They were a pretty solid team, and I am shocked to hear that they are leaving.

I know they had some former Hawks players on that team, but there was a lot of talent there.

From what I heard, the Crabs tryout was rather light in numbers again, and very little high end talent.

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My son attended the FCA 2026 tryouts this past Sunday; in the heat of the day, Lord it was HOT!! I was impressed with the turnout; my guess was 50-60 kids and some BIG kids as well! Definitely talent on the field; we will be going back again Wednesday night at Stevenson.

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If true, surprising to hear about PLC. They beat the Hawks and BLC in one of the June Hogan tournaments. Looked like a good program.

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My son did not get offered from club he wanted. Scrambling now...Breakers any good? He did get offered from Koopers but I hear that’s a disaster??

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depends on where you live and what level of lacrosse you want. Breakers is a B level team, not the greatest. Same with Koopers.

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Couldn’t agree more. We played Koopers last year. Most kids from last years team are going to Breakers, so that will just be Koopers part 2. IMO the best bang for your buck in the B league is Kelly Post.

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Anyone know how the Next Level tryouts went last weekend? Did they have a lot of kids?

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Next Level tryouts are this coming Saturday and Sunday

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What’s the deal with Crabs at this year? They have enough for a team this year? AA or A?

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They will have a team that they will play in either AA or A. Not sure if they have the horses to match up with Bethesda, Looneys, or Hawks.

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The crabs brand only plays top tier even without the talent. Since 2023, a true elite team, crabs has had average teams that get stomped.

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I heard the crabs tryouts were very weak in talent. Helmets included HoCo, G, Roughriders, Laxworld... Real hard to make an AA team from that.

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I heard the crabs tryouts were very weak in talent. Helmets included HoCo, G, Roughriders, Laxworld... Real hard to make an AA team from that.


Few people care about Crabs any more. Crabs was the premier high school club. It expanded down to 5th grade either the 2022 and struggled. 2023 was day dominant. No good teams since then. Too many good clubs that start earier and develop loyalty - fca, looneys, 91 Md.

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I heard the crabs tryouts were very weak in talent. Helmets included HoCo, G, Roughriders, Laxworld... Real hard to make an AA team from that.


Few people care about Crabs any more. Crabs was the premier high school club. It expanded down to 5th grade either the 2022 and struggled. 2023 was day dominant. No good teams since then. Too many good clubs that start earier and develop loyalty - fca, looneys, 91 Md.


Crabs is a crock of sh**.
Come play for us, we will guarantee you will get into the high school you want, even though you are 10 yrs old and high school is 5yrs away. That’s how they get their players. Sleazy as always.

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Everyone knows that 91 is the new Crabs.

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91 has a 2026 team?

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91 has a 2026 team?


And a 2027

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I know we saw 91 jerseys in 26 AA...but they should have been an A or B team. Not at all a AA team.

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91 added 5 kids from laxworld this year. We will roll through the AA league this year.

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91 added 5 kids from laxworld this year. We will roll through the AA league this year.


lol

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Notice all these posters are anonymous. Some of these threads are like watching a dystopian 4Chan thread develop.

Trash talking about other peoples 10 year olds.

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The only area team that can sniff 91 is Looneys

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Looneys is a decent team. 91 has never been relevant at 2026.

The following would be a starting point for rankings over the past 2 years of the clubs in this age group.(In the DMV area)

Hawks
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BLC
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Great list. One interesting thing I saw this morning is that Diamondbacks are still looking for players.

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91 MD beat Looneys once this spring as well as Madlax and Roughriders.

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Not trying to be an butt but on what basis is Looneys the 2nd ranked team in 2026? Have they won any tournaments that BLC and the Diamondbacks were entered in?

BLC won HOCO two years ago, Hawks won this past year. Those two teams seem to win most tournaments. PLC is the only club I have seen that has beaten both.

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Looneys is a decent team. 91 has never been relevant at 2026.

The following would be a starting point for rankings over the past 2 years of the clubs in this age group.(In the DMV area)

Hawks
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Breakers
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EastSide
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Rockfish

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Looneys is a decent team. 91 has never been relevant at 2026.

The following would be a starting point for rankings over the past 2 years of the clubs in this age group.(In the DMV area)

Hawks
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3D Select
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BLC (B Team)
Breakers
Zingos
HoCo
EastSide
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Rockfish

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BLC was the fifth best team in the area this past spring. The HoCo results speak for themselves as do the results from the three tournaments they participated in. They took a step back in every facet of their game as compared to Spring 2017 including goals scored and goals against. I would rank them behind PLC.

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New year, lots of movement among clubs as well as new teams formed. Let the past season go. The 10yr olds sure have.

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No new clubs aside from maybe the bay raiders will have an impact this year. Some clubs will be down, but the top 4 should still be BLC, Hawks, Looneys, and Diamondbacks.

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No new clubs aside from maybe the bay raiders will have an impact this year. Some clubs will be down, but the top 4 should still be BLC, Hawks, Looneys, and Diamondbacks.

VLC will have impact this year

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Will FCA be in AA this year?

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I’m quite sure Fortnite will greatly impact this age bracket

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FCA, crabs, and cannons should be AA with 91 going down to A

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA, crabs, and cannons should be AA with 91 going down to A


Crabs in AA? Did you not see the helmets at tryouts?

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What basis do you have to say Crabs should be AA? They have not had a team that can compete at AA since 2023. Now tryout numbers. Average players.

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I predict a Hoco win over Crabs

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HOCO, Koopers, Breakers couldn’t beat a local rec lightning team

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HOCO, Koopers, Breakers couldn’t beat a local rec lightning team

Considering those were the helmets at Crabs tryouts, I’ll take that bet. HoCo beats Crabs by 4.

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not a crabs fan but if they lose to any of the three programs mentioned above they need to immediately cease operations. Not sure why any parent would pay the ridiculous fees for any of these teams. Why not just play for the local rec organization and save your money. Is is really worth $2k so Johnny and Dad can say they play club lax?

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not a crabs fan but if they lose to any of the three programs mentioned above they need to immediately cease operations. Not sure why any parent would pay the ridiculous fees for any of these teams. Why not just play for the local rec organization and save your money. Is is really worth $2k so Johnny and Dad can say they play club lax?


I will tell you why ... because junior cannot make the top rec travel team so dad looks for a club at $2000 because roster spots and playing time are available due to market saturation.

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There are Rec Travel teams?

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Agreed. More about the parents than the child. All Rec programs at lightning and mig are travel.

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Coach Brendan Sweeney formerly of the 2026 Cannons has been added to the 2026 Hawks Staff

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Does adding him to their team affect anything? Know nothing about that guy.

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Does adding him to their team affect anything? Know nothing about that guy.


No. The team will still have holdbacks and obnoxious parents.


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Great, let's make this thread about holdbacks also. I'm sure this time we will make progress on the question.

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Earlier in this thread, there were comments that PLC was folding. Did that officially happen? Would be a shame as they had a nice team.

If it did happen, where did those kids go?

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Earlier in this thread, there were comments that PLC was folding. Did that officially happen? Would be a shame as they had a nice team.

If it did happen, where did those kids go?


PLC did not fold. They have a 2026 team.

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Earlier in this thread, there were comments that PLC was folding. Did that officially happen? Would be a shame as they had a nice team.

If it did happen, where did those kids go?


PLC did not fold. They have a 2026 team.


The kids and coaches on last year's 2026 PLC team are no longer there, they went to a start up program.

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The coaches left for AYLC, Bay Dogs and 2 stayed I believe. I did not see a 2026 listed on PLC's website

Most of the kids went to Bay Raiders, Bay Dogs, Crabs and Hawks

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Where are the 2026 teams playing in the fall? Mostly random tournaments and start of box season? Any leagues running?

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Where are the 2026 teams playing in the fall? Mostly random tournaments and start of box season? Any leagues running?


New to the rodeo? No leagues in the fall, just fall tournament season. I think most 2026 team do about 2-3 tournaments. Anything else at the age of 10 is overkill IMO.

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I think HOCO will be a top 10 local team this year. They turned it on at the end of last season, they beat Zingo's twice, tied Green Hornets in a Fall Tournament game and made quite a few changes to their roster since then. I know the coach so I can arrange a play date with him if you want to have a Fall scrimmage.

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let's take a gander at this thought...

Bethesda Blue
Madlax
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Green Hornets
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Next Level
Bethesda Orange


Yep, top 10 looks about right.......

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You realize that every HoCo team is god awful, right?

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I think HOCO will be a top 10 local team this year. They turned it on at the end of last season, they beat Zingo's twice, tied Green Hornets in a Fall Tournament game and made quite a few changes to their roster since then. I know the coach so I can arrange a play date with him if you want to have a Fall scrimmage.



Didn’t they play down all summer in the B division after losing all spring in the A division? I guess if that’s turning it on...

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Long Island Express is bringing all their teams down to Delaware to play Hawks. Anyone know who the other local teams that are playing???

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Long Island Express is bringing all their teams down to Delaware to play Hawks. Anyone know who the other local teams that are playing???


Only local team in this is Hawks. Nobody else signed up to play in it.

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If you are referring to the NAL Fall Event in Delaware on November 10th then BLC 2026 Blue is also participating

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Referring to tomorrow morning.

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Hawks 10-1 over Long Island Express
Hawks 9-0 over Express North

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Hawks 10-1 over Long Island Express
Hawks 9-0 over Express North


Thanks Hawks dad. We don’t care.

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Looks like express took care of the hawks quite easily in Delaware in Sunday

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Not in 2026, what did you watch? The Hawks spanked both Express teams that went to DE, though they looked a lot bigger so there has to be an age difference.

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The reclass shuffle. If I played my boys at 2027 they'd be on any AA Elite team. So much in this sport is broken.

Lacrosse has to go to birth year like soccer.

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The reclass shuffle. If I played my boys at 2027 they'd be on any AA Elite team. So much in this sport is broken.

Lacrosse has to go to birth year like soccer.


Reclassifying is one thing, but I think that is less of a problem than people clam it is at the 5th grade level. If lacrosse goes to a birth year, then the focus of the complaining will be because a team has a bunch of early 2007 birthdays and their kids are 8-11 12 months older than our kids.

My son played with a big kid all through youth and HS. He was probably 6 ft in 6th grade, he's in college now and may have only grown 2 inches since then. The comments from opposing parents once they saw that he was also an excellent player were embarrassing. "Where's his birth certificate?" "Play with your own age!" "Did you drive to the game?" Some kids are bigger than other kids their age, some kids are better than kids their age, and some are bigger AND better than kids their age. That doesn't make them cheaters.

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91 added 5 kids from laxworld this year. We will roll through the AA league this year.


lol



Agree with the lol....

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The only area team that can sniff 91 is Looneys


Didn't team 91 go 2-5 in HOCO last year?

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Not in 2026, what did you watch? The Hawks spanked both Express teams that went to DE, though they looked a lot bigger so there has to be an age difference.



Yes, that is a well informed conclusion. Bigger = older

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One of their little kids was a goon!!!!

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One of their little kids was a goon!!!!


I have a son on an older team. I watched and was very impressed with that Hawks teams skill level. I assume the core has been together for a while. Defense was great. Attack rode like crazy and a good goalie.

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91 added 5 kids from laxworld this year. We will roll through the AA league this year.


lol



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One of their little kids was a goon!!!!


I have a son on an older team. I watched and was very impressed with that Hawks teams skill level. I assume the core has been together for a while. Defense was great. Attack rode like crazy and a good goalie.


Well it sounds like you watched the most perfect lacrosse team ever! May all others strive to be just like the 2026 Annapolis Hawks! We bow!

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The only area team that can sniff 91 is Looneys


Didn't team 91 go 2-5 in HOCO last year?


Crabs will beat both.

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Reclassifying is one thing, but I think that is less of a problem than people clam it is at the 5th grade level. If lacrosse goes to a birth year, then the focus of the complaining will be because a team has a bunch of early 2007 birthdays and their kids are 8-11 12 months older than our kids.

My son played with a big kid all through youth and HS. He was probably 6 ft in 6th grade, he's in college now and may have only grown 2 inches since then. The comments from opposing parents once they saw that he was also an excellent player were embarrassing. "Where's his birth certificate?" "Play with your own age!" "Did you drive to the game?" Some kids are bigger than other kids their age, some kids are better than kids their age, and some are bigger AND better than kids their age. That doesn't make them cheaters.[/quote]

What is the argument to having an age based system where kids move up on their birthday, meaning when a kid turns 11 he plays 11 and under? This way the kids progress naturally from being the youngest to the oldest and, presumably, moving up in importance to the team. I've heard the team cohesion argument and it's ridiculous given the age levels we're talking about. And since USL and tournaments require birth dates upon registration, it's easily policed.

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Lol. Lax world wasn't any good last year and didnt even play AA.

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Hawks hammered express. wasn't close. hawks best 2026 team out there

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The only area team that can sniff 91 is Looneys


Didn't team 91 go 2-5 in HOCO last year?


Crabs will beat both.


Crabs will win ....coach that throws the biggest tantrums award. Good luck with that !

You think Millon and Mclernan are bad.....watch out.

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Hawks hammered express. wasn't close. hawks best 2026 team out there



Did they add/lose any players?

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Hawks hammered express. wasn't close. hawks best 2026 team out there


Haven't seen them this year. They were good last year in HOCO though. I wouldn't have guessed that they would blowout the Express teams. Wonder if they got some PLC players.

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If Express played in HoCo they would not be a top four team. Long Island is predominantly a public school area so they don’t have older kids like our teams do. That is why you rarely see Maryland teams participate in the WSYL in Denver. Our teams don’t have enough kids that meet the September 1st age cutoff to field a complete team with their regular 19-21 players.

Express is always one of the better U13 teams at WSYL.

Next Level even had to recruit age eligible kids last year to join their WSYL team that did not play on their club in the spring to help them be more competitive in Denver. They were an average team in HoCo last Spring.

Long Island teams at this age are skilled but are behind in size and speed. That of course will change in the next few years.

Fifth grade lacrosse means nothing. It will all change after puberty. Ask any Dad who has a son on a high school age club team. Over 50% of the kids that were on that team in 5th grade are no longer there.

This age should be about developing your boys individual skills and having fun with your friends so there is no burn out.

And yes, the Hawks are a very good 2026 team and playing them is always a great challenge.

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Hawks hammered express. wasn't close. hawks best 2026 team out there



Did they add/lose any players?


Talking to one of the dads they have 8 new kids

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""Ask any Dad who has a son on a high school age club team. Over 50% of the kids that were on that team in 5th grade are no longer there.""

This is true look at Madlax. The 8th grade team has maybe one player that was on the team when they were in fifth grade and he is not even a starter.

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Hawks hammered express. wasn't close. hawks best 2026 team out there


Haven't seen them this year. They were good last year in HOCO though. I wouldn't have guessed that they would blowout the Express teams. Wonder if they got some PLC players.



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""Ask any Dad who has a son on a high school age club team. Over 50% of the kids that were on that team in 5th grade are no longer there.""

This is true look at Madlax. The 8th grade team has maybe one player that was on the team when they were in fifth grade and he is not even a starter.


For top teams this is pretty accurate. 50% of kids from 5th grade are gone by high school. Yet that won't stop parents from arguing who is the best 5th grade team as if it matters.

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What is the argument to having an age based system where kids move up on their birthday, meaning when a kid turns 11 he plays 11 and under? This way the kids progress naturally from being the youngest to the oldest and, presumably, moving up in importance to the team. I've heard the team cohesion argument and it's ridiculous given the age levels we're talking about. And since USL and tournaments require birth dates upon registration, it's easily policed.

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What is the argument to having an age based system where kids move up on their birthday, meaning when a kid turns 11 he plays 11 and under? This way the kids progress naturally from being the youngest to the oldest and, presumably, moving up in importance to the team. I've heard the team cohesion argument and it's ridiculous given the age levels we're talking about. And since USL and tournaments require birth dates upon registration, it's easily policed.


I personally thing grad year is smart in youth lax. My other son benefited from playing with older, physically bigger kids who reclassed to his grad year. It prepared him more for high school lax. He was able to compete with guys 2-3 years older than him. There’s good in everything. Some of you bozos just need to look for it.

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Thanks for the wisdom holdback whisperer. Since it worked for your son it must work for all. #YourTruth #BozosKnowBest

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Dad of a Senior is high school here.
He will be graduating at the age of 17. He will be signing a D2 scholarship in Nov.
He played with a top Club team 4th grade to 12th. I fully agree he got better playing with the older private school kids for sure.
But its hard not to sit back at this time and say what if I held him back? I am seeing what his body will look like by the time he hits the field in spring. If he had one more year what could he do?

I can sleep well at night knowing we did it the right way.

One thing to note is he started on the U11 system then into Grade year teams in what 6th or 7th grade. He also lived through the old rule of Sept 1st Jr year.
I am guessing this rule will help boys like my son because the spots will be open longer. But time will only tell.

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Thanks for the wisdom holdback whisperer. Since it worked for your son it must work for all. #YourTruth #BozosKnowBest


My kid isn’t a holdback. You completely missed the point of the post stunad. Keep pounding that chest, one day it will get bigger.

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What is the argument to having an age based system where kids move up on their birthday, meaning when a kid turns 11 he plays 11 and under? This way the kids progress naturally from being the youngest to the oldest and, presumably, moving up in importance to the team. I've heard the team cohesion argument and it's ridiculous given the age levels we're talking about. And since USL and tournaments require birth dates upon registration, it's easily policed.

That last part is funny. USL only provides insurance. They do not police anything. Tournaments have CYA waivers but could care less about birth dates. Grade based only means that a player is supposed to be in the graduation year 2026, 2025 ect... This could be interpreted as what the parents may do in the future such as re-class, holdback, ect.... Clubs that do this the most run the tournament. There is no enforcement or even a desire to do so. These programs feed private schools that benefit from holdbacks with an extra year of tuition payments. In other words, there is zero motivation to police anything. There are a few age based events but you will not see any top local teams at them.

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I think for most kids it drives them out of the sport instead of toward it. I reference the study Malcolm Gladwell and many others have cited regarding NHL hockey juniors in Canada. With today's databases, there's no longer a need for a class based system.

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Lacrosse should be just like Hockey. Play with other kids born in your birth year. That way the maximum guaranteed age difference is 12 months. Or like Youth Football that has a weight limit.

Aren't we the only youth sport doing it the grade way?

In the system we have now the age range in a given game could possibly be 24 months. On my sons fifth grade team the number of months between our youngest and oldest kid is 17 months.

Why not go back to an age based system? College coaches only care about High School Juniors and Seniors. At NLF this past spring in Long Island not a single D1 coach was on the 2021 (rising sophomores) sidelines. I was there. I saw it.

We went to grade based because of early recruiting four years ago but that is no longer relevant.

Go ahead and reply with your "its good to play older kids" viewpoint but maybe your son didn't get a concussion that had to make him sit out of sports and school for a month with dizziness, fatigue and headaches. And before you trash me my son is a high level player on a HoCo AA team and not a bench sitter.

Playing older kids in non contact sports is fine. In the case of contact sports like lacrosse it is completely irresponsible in the pre High School years and is not preparing your son for anything except injury.

What is it going to take for Lacrosse parents to make a stand on this. All it would take is to change HoCo and NLF to age based and the rest of the youth landscape will follow but we are the only ones that can make this change happen.

I wish this was a forum about making our sport better and safer instead of a place where opinions are ridiculed. I guess I'm expecting too much from anonymous posters.

I'm pushing the leaders of my son's club to be proactive on this issue. I encourage you to do the same with your sons club.

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Lacrosse should be just like Hockey. Play with other kids born in your birth year. That way the maximum guaranteed age difference is 12 months. Or like Youth Football that has a weight limit.

Aren't we the only youth sport doing it the grade way?

In the system we have now the age range in a given game could possibly be 24 months. On my sons fifth grade team the number of months between our youngest and oldest kid is 17 months.

Why not go back to an age based system? College coaches only care about High School Juniors and Seniors. At NLF this past spring in Long Island not a single D1 coach was on the 2021 (rising sophomores) sidelines. I was there. I saw it.

We went to grade based because of early recruiting four years ago but that is no longer relevant.

Go ahead and reply with your "its good to play older kids" viewpoint but maybe your son didn't get a concussion that had to make him sit out of sports and school for a month with dizziness, fatigue and headaches. And before you trash me my son is a high level player on a HoCo AA team and not a bench sitter.

Playing older kids in non contact sports is fine. In the case of contact sports like lacrosse it is completely irresponsible in the pre High School years and is not preparing your son for anything except injury.

What is it going to take for Lacrosse parents to make a stand on this. All it would take is to change HoCo and NLF to age based and the rest of the youth landscape will follow but we are the only ones that can make this change happen.

I wish this was a forum about making our sport better and safer instead of a place where opinions are ridiculed. I guess I'm expecting too much from anonymous posters.

I'm pushing the leaders of my son's club to be proactive on this issue. I encourage you to do the same with your sons club.

Your are missing the true reason that lacrosse is not like the other sports. It is a private school sport and the hold back schools get an extra $25 to $45K a year from parents that send kids to private schools from K-12 if they go an extra year. The clubs use almost rent free fields from the private schools and many also coach at the school. What % of top club programs have STRONG ties to schools? GP, Bullis, BL, MCD, even Spalding. Do not worry if you kid does not hold back and graduates a little too soon they will talk you into a PG or Post Graduate year at yet another $25-40K per year with another school they have a relationship with on the advice of a private college coach who they know. I am not defending it just providing the other side so you know where to place your frustrations. Good luck!

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I love all the Crabs, Hawks, Laxachussetts nonsense. Kids dominate all... Funny how they never play or make WSYL.... oh wait, that is age based... Man up and play on age.

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Lots of games today in Columbia. Three teams finished 3-0.

BLC - beat Sidewinders, Arden, and 3D Maryland
Madlax Capital - beat Roughriders, Sidewinders, FCA
VLC - beat Next Level, Roughriders, and FCA

Crabs at 2-1 were the only other team with a winning record. They only lost to FCA.

Unfortunately, with ten teams entered most teams didn't play each other. Surprise to me is that Diamondbacks went 1-2. I only saw 1/2 of a Diamondbacks game but they didn't look like the same team. Couldn't hang with Bethesda. One parent mentioned that they lost some of their better players to the Hawks.

Still - don't think you can draw any conclusions from this. It is a fall tournament, first *cold* day of the year, and the wind was brutal. Good day but not much to learn from it.

Anyone know who is playing in the Halloween Havoc next week?

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Lots of games today in Columbia. Three teams finished 3-0.

BLC - beat Sidewinders, Arden, and 3D Maryland
Madlax Capital - beat Roughriders, Sidewinders, FCA
VLC - beat Next Level, Roughriders, and FCA

Crabs at 2-1 were the only other team with a winning record. They only lost to FCA.

Unfortunately, with ten teams entered most teams didn't play each other. Surprise to me is that Diamondbacks went 1-2. I only saw 1/2 of a Diamondbacks game but they didn't look like the same team. Couldn't hang with Bethesda. One parent mentioned that they lost some of their better players to the Hawks.

Still - don't think you can draw any conclusions from this. It is a fall tournament, first *cold* day of the year, and the wind was brutal. Good day but not much to learn from it.

Anyone know who is playing in the Halloween Havoc next week?


Doubt you saw half the game because you weren’t there, Hawks dad. But thanks for letting us know you got their better players. Everyone was dying to know what happened 10yr old players.

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Jeez - this wasn't even a post about the Hawks. I was there and am not a Hawks parent. I watched the first half because the Diamondbacks were arguably the 2nd best team last year and BLC is always a strong program. BLC was controlling all facets of the game against the Diamondbacks. Won most of the faceoffs and controlled possession. Either BLC took a step forward or Diamondbacks took a step back. Or it was a cold flukey game...which it might have been.

Want some level of proof I was there - BLC was in blue jerseys and the game was played on one of the turf baseball fields at Blandair Park. I watched the first half before moving to a different field for my kids own game.

There have been a number of respectful discussions on the top teams in 2026. (It's why there is a board discussing youth lacrosse.) I like the Diamondbacks and their coaches. It's a good program but they didn't look like the same team yesterday. Which was somewhat "confirmed" by a conversation that I had with a parent.

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Jeez - this wasn't even a post about the Hawks. I was there and am not a Hawks parent. I watched the first half because the Diamondbacks were arguably the 2nd best team last year and BLC is always a strong program. BLC was controlling all facets of the game against the Diamondbacks. Won most of the faceoffs and controlled possession. Either BLC took a step forward or Diamondbacks took a step back. Or it was a cold flukey game...which it might have been.

Want some level of proof I was there - BLC was in blue jerseys and the game was played on one of the turf baseball fields at Blandair Park. I watched the first half before moving to a different field for my kids own game.

There have been a number of respectful discussions on the top teams in 2026. (It's why there is a board discussing youth lacrosse.) I like the Diamondbacks and their coaches. It's a good program but they didn't look like the same team yesterday. Which was somewhat "confirmed" by a conversation that I had with a parent.


Thanks for the update. Its good to see a positive post about teams that were playing and how the competition was at Blandair

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Jeez - this wasn't even a post about the Hawks. I was there and am not a Hawks parent. I watched the first half because the Diamondbacks were arguably the 2nd best team last year and BLC is always a strong program. BLC was controlling all facets of the game against the Diamondbacks. Won most of the faceoffs and controlled possession. Either BLC took a step forward or Diamondbacks took a step back. Or it was a cold flukey game...which it might have been.

Want some level of proof I was there - BLC was in blue jerseys and the game was played on one of the turf baseball fields at Blandair Park. I watched the first half before moving to a different field for my kids own game.

There have been a number of respectful discussions on the top teams in 2026. (It's why there is a board discussing youth lacrosse.) I like the Diamondbacks and their coaches. It's a good program but they didn't look like the same team yesterday. Which was somewhat "confirmed" by a conversation that I had with a parent.


The Diamondbacks have gone downhill ever since they merged with API. I would stay away from that program. Daddy ball is rampant, and the coaching is horrific.

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Random question from a relative newbie - does anyone know the general HOCO league schedule? When does it start and when does it end? Is there a break for Spring Breaks?

Trying to plan a large family vacation/reunion and hoping to avoid conflicts.

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They won’t have games on easter weekend but will have games the weekend before and after. Start date may change, but should be last weekend in March maybe one week earlier. Championships will be weekend before Memorial Day.

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They won’t have games on easter weekend but will have games the weekend before and after. Start date may change, but should be last weekend in March maybe one week earlier. Championships will be weekend before Memorial Day.


Thank you. This is helpful.

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I think HOCO will be a top 10 local team this year. They turned it on at the end of last season, they beat Zingo's twice, tied Green Hornets in a Fall Tournament game and made quite a few changes to their roster since then. I know the coach so I can arrange a play date with him if you want to have a Fall scrimmage.



Didn’t they play down all summer in the B division after losing all spring in the A division? I guess if that’s turning it on...


Maybe top 10 in the B division. Halloween Havoc schedule out. HoCo in B bracket. Keep dreaming big though.

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I think HOCO will be a top 10 local team this year. They turned it on at the end of last season, they beat Zingo's twice, tied Green Hornets in a Fall Tournament game and made quite a few changes to their roster since then. I know the coach so I can arrange a play date with him if you want to have a Fall scrimmage.



Didn’t they play down all summer in the B division after losing all spring in the A division? I guess if that’s turning it on...


Maybe top 10 in the B division. Halloween Havoc schedule out. HoCo in B bracket. Keep dreaming big though.


Cannons too. That's weird. I think they won it last year.

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hearing a bunch about the Hawks being the top team at this age group in the area. how did they do in summer vs out of state competition?

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hearing a bunch about the Hawks being the top team at this age group in the area. how did they do in summer vs out of state competition?


They beat both Express teams in Delaware, pretty easily it sounds like. Hard to judge in October. Some kids are less involved in the fall while they play soccer/football. Plus they are 10/11 year olds so it's not worth it.

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hearing a bunch about the Hawks being the top team at this age group in the area. how did they do in summer vs out of state competition?


Top team is the old PLC team - beat Hawks twice last year and didnt lose anyone in the off season

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I think HOCO will be a top 10 local team this year. They turned it on at the end of last season, they beat Zingo's twice, tied Green Hornets in a Fall Tournament game and made quite a few changes to their roster since then. I know the coach so I can arrange a play date with him if you want to have a Fall scrimmage.



Didn’t they play down all summer in the B division after losing all spring in the A division? I guess if that’s turning it on...


Maybe top 10 in the B division. Halloween Havoc schedule out. HoCo in B bracket. Keep dreaming big though.


Cannons too. That's weird. I think they won it last year.


How did Halloween Havoc end up? Did they get it in with the weather?

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Great! Then we will expect them to actually play in the 2026 AA bracket at HoCo this year. PLC played in 2026 A this past spring and didn’t win the regular season or the championship.

HoCo is about consistency over the entire spring. Do that in 2019 and you can call yourself the best.

Also helps to play in the best tournaments like NLF or NAL but you are nowhere to be found in those.

Anonymous bragging about fifth graders strikes again!

It’s great that your kids are winning youth tournaments like Summer Exposure but if your goal is to have your son play high level D3 or D1 lacrosse then you need to put him on a team like the Hawks once he hits high school that will be in tournaments that those coaches will actually be attending.

You need access to the best club tournaments. That is the key along with attending prospect days at the colleges.. Even if your son plays for a great local high school program college coaches don’t have time to go and watch those games.

So instead of bragging about beating the Hawks you should be trying to get your son on the Hawks if you live in the Annapolis area. That is because they have access to the best tournaments.

I don’t live near Annapolis but if I did, placing my son on that Hawks team as early as possible would be the goal.

What is your long term strategy? To keep bragging?

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It was cancelled

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Great! Then we will expect them to actually play in the 2026 AA bracket at HoCo this year. PLC played in 2026 A this past spring and didn’t win the regular season or the championship.

HoCo is about consistency over the entire spring. Do that in 2019 and you can call yourself the best.

Also helps to play in the best tournaments like NLF or NAL but you are nowhere to be found in those.

Anonymous bragging about fifth graders strikes again!

It’s great that your kids are winning youth tournaments like Summer Exposure but if your goal is to have your son play high level D3 or D1 lacrosse then you need to put him on a team like the Hawks once he hits high school that will be in tournaments that those coaches will actually be attending.

You need access to the best club tournaments. That is the key along with attending prospect days at the colleges.. Even if your son plays for a great local high school program college coaches don’t have time to go and watch those games.

So instead of bragging about beating the Hawks you should be trying to get your son on the Hawks if you live in the Annapolis area. That is because they have access to the best tournaments.

I don’t live near Annapolis but if I did, placing my son on that Hawks team as early as possible would be the goal.

What is your long term strategy? To keep bragging?








OMG shut up Hawks dad. Go talk to yourself in the mirror because you are the only one who cares what you have to say.

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I’m not a hawks Dad! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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91 beats hawks next week

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91 beats hawks next week


Nice try Hawks Daddy. No one from 91 would post this.

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Which MD teams played this weekend and how did the fare???

West Chester was this weekend??

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I’m not a hawks Dad! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Yes you are, you are even over the top with your emojis.

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Hawks 5-0 and won the SHIP
Mad Lax went 3-1 lost to Hawks in the Semis
Bethesda 2-1 and didn’t make the playoff bracket

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AYLC won the Aloha Autumn CLassic with wins over Harvest, Black Bear and Crabs (11-0) and then VLC in the SHIP

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AYLC won the Aloha Autumn CLassic with wins over Harvest, Black Bear and Crabs (11-0) and then VLC in the SHIP


Hopefully they play AA in HOCO in the spring.

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Hawks 5-0 and won the SHIP
Mad Lax went 3-1 lost to Hawks in the Semis
Bethesda 2-1 and didn’t make the playoff bracket



I believe that Mad Lax went 2-2. They were 2-1 in the pool and then lost to Hawks in Semis. Good tournament for them. They look improved.

More details
Hawks 15 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Hawks 10 - Legacy Eels 1 - Eels went 1-2
Hawks 9 - Prime Time 2 - Prime Time went 1-2
Semis - Hawks 4 - Madlax 1 - Madlax went 2-2 (one loss in playoffs)
Finals - Hawks 6 - BBL 0 - BBL went 3-2 (one loss in playoffs)

Bethesda 12 - Prime Time 5 - Prime Time went 1-2
Bethesda 4 - BBL 3 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Bethesda 1 - Express North 4 - Express North went 3-1 - only loss to BBL in the semis

Bethesda knocked off on goal differential. But they also had the hardest schedule in the pool. Spilt with two teams that made they playoff.

Madlax 5 - BBL 7 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Madlax 6 - Towermen 4 - Towerman went 1-2
Madlax 12 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Semis - Madlax 1 - Hawks 4. Hawks went 5-0 to win it

Hawks deserved to win it but also definitely got some breaks with the schedule. Still - a war of attrition given how cold and wet it was. Got to be mentally tough to survive on a day like Saturday. Some of the fields were nearly unplayable.

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Hawks 5-0 and won the SHIP
Mad Lax went 3-1 lost to Hawks in the Semis
Bethesda 2-1 and didn’t make the playoff bracket



I believe that Mad Lax went 2-2. They were 2-1 in the pool and then lost to Hawks in Semis. Good tournament for them. They look improved.

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Hawks 15 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Hawks 10 - Legacy Eels 1 - Eels went 1-2
Hawks 9 - Prime Time 2 - Prime Time went 1-2
Semis - Hawks 4 - Madlax 1 - Madlax went 2-2 (one loss in playoffs)
Finals - Hawks 6 - BBL 0 - BBL went 3-2 (one loss in playoffs)

Bethesda 12 - Prime Time 5 - Prime Time went 1-2
Bethesda 4 - BBL 3 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Bethesda 1 - Express North 4 - Express North went 3-1 - only loss to BBL in the semis

Bethesda knocked off on goal differential. But they also had the hardest schedule in the pool. Spilt with two teams that made they playoff.

Madlax 5 - BBL 7 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Madlax 6 - Towermen 4 - Towerman went 1-2
Madlax 12 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Semis - Madlax 1 - Hawks 4. Hawks went 5-0 to win it

Hawks deserved to win it but also definitely got some breaks with the schedule. Still - a war of attrition given how cold and wet it was. Got to be mentally tough to survive on a day like Saturday. Some of the fields were nearly unplayable.




Shoot, most of them were unplayable. Lots of freezing cold feet and ruined cleats after that day.

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Hawks 5-0 and won the SHIP
Mad Lax went 3-1 lost to Hawks in the Semis
Bethesda 2-1 and didn’t make the playoff bracket



I believe that Mad Lax went 2-2. They were 2-1 in the pool and then lost to Hawks in Semis. Good tournament for them. They look improved.

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Hawks 15 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Hawks 10 - Legacy Eels 1 - Eels went 1-2
Hawks 9 - Prime Time 2 - Prime Time went 1-2
Semis - Hawks 4 - Madlax 1 - Madlax went 2-2 (one loss in playoffs)
Finals - Hawks 6 - BBL 0 - BBL went 3-2 (one loss in playoffs)

Bethesda 12 - Prime Time 5 - Prime Time went 1-2
Bethesda 4 - BBL 3 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Bethesda 1 - Express North 4 - Express North went 3-1 - only loss to BBL in the semis

Bethesda knocked off on goal differential. But they also had the hardest schedule in the pool. Spilt with two teams that made they playoff.

Madlax 5 - BBL 7 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Madlax 6 - Towermen 4 - Towerman went 1-2
Madlax 12 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Semis - Madlax 1 - Hawks 4. Hawks went 5-0 to win it

Hawks deserved to win it but also definitely got some breaks with the schedule. Still - a war of attrition given how cold and wet it was. Got to be mentally tough to survive on a day like Saturday. Some of the fields were nearly unplayable.




Shoot, most of them were unplayable. Lots of freezing cold feet and ruined cleats after that day.


How does Hawks play on Turf the whole time?

Nice break down but looking at goals scored vs goals goals against - Express North, BBL, Mad Lax, Bethesda and Legacy are very close together

Hawks scored 34 goals and allowed only 4 in bracket play - maybe they had an easy road

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- wash mud off your cleats. Use magic eraser and then wash in washing machine. Let air dry. Add bleach if they are white cleats

- for gloves/ arm pads/shoulder pads- wipe off mud, clean with magic eraser, wash with hex wash which is specifically made for lax gear in washing machine on delicate. Air dry

- take lacrosse head off stick, place in dishwasher top rack. Normal cycle. Leave heat dry on. Air dry the rest of the way till dry. Screw back into stick

Brand new gear!

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Can we go back to Crabs losing 11-0? What’s that about?

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Can we go back to Crabs losing 11-0? What’s that about?


Were they "missing" players?

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Hawks 5-0 and won the SHIP
Mad Lax went 3-1 lost to Hawks in the Semis
Bethesda 2-1 and didn’t make the playoff bracket



I believe that Mad Lax went 2-2. They were 2-1 in the pool and then lost to Hawks in Semis. Good tournament for them. They look improved.

More details
Hawks 15 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Hawks 10 - Legacy Eels 1 - Eels went 1-2
Hawks 9 - Prime Time 2 - Prime Time went 1-2
Semis - Hawks 4 - Madlax 1 - Madlax went 2-2 (one loss in playoffs)
Finals - Hawks 6 - BBL 0 - BBL went 3-2 (one loss in playoffs)

Bethesda 12 - Prime Time 5 - Prime Time went 1-2
Bethesda 4 - BBL 3 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Bethesda 1 - Express North 4 - Express North went 3-1 - only loss to BBL in the semis

Bethesda knocked off on goal differential. But they also had the hardest schedule in the pool. Spilt with two teams that made they playoff.

Madlax 5 - BBL 7 - BBL made the finals and went 3-2 overall
Madlax 6 - Towermen 4 - Towerman went 1-2
Madlax 12 - South Shore 1 - South Shore didn't win a game
Semis - Madlax 1 - Hawks 4. Hawks went 5-0 to win it

Hawks deserved to win it but also definitely got some breaks with the schedule. Still - a war of attrition given how cold and wet it was. Got to be mentally tough to survive on a day like Saturday. Some of the fields were nearly unplayable.




Shoot, most of them were unplayable. Lots of freezing cold feet and ruined cleats after that day.


My wife commented that the team that brought the most pairs of back-up socks would likely win the entire tournament!

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
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AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
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AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Team 91
AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.

Based on this fall, VLC should play in the AA bracket

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Team 91
AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.

Based on this fall, VLC should play in the AA bracket


Who have they knocked off this fall? I haven't seen them at all.

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VLC looked good against Madlax in a scrimmage a few weeks back. Madlax beat them by maybe 2 goals but it was a tight game all the way through.

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Team 91
AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.

Based on this fall, VLC should play in the AA bracket


Who have they knocked off this fall? I haven't seen them at all.

In the MD Tournament they beat FCA, NL and RR

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VLC beating NL isn't saying much. The 27's of NL are better than the 26's.

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Team 91
AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.


Cannons is a mix of 26/27 they arent playing AA in HOCO

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Which teams will play AA in HoCo this year?

Crabs
Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Team 91
AYLC
Looney’s
Madlax
FCA
Roughriders
Hawks





Assuming the 6 from last year - Hawks, Diamondbacks, Looneys, Bethesda, Team 91 & Madlax. Then maybe Green Hornets, Cannons and AYLC?? Seems like a stretch for FCA, Roughriders and Crabs to play AA.


Cannons is a mix of 26/27 they arent playing AA in HOCO


They must have lost kids. Last year I saw them play with one or two subs a few times. Still always competitive, if not winning.

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It looks like some want greener grass. Off season club jumping has begun.

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It looks like some want greener grass. Off season club jumping has begun.

And as you should Jump clubs but only if its to go to a better club. If you are not playing enough make little Johnny work harder to earn more time.

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It looks like some want greener grass. Off season club jumping has begun.


Hard to blame a kid/parent for looking elsewhere when the team can only put together a 12-13 man roster. We played them in a summer tournament and beat them but only because the kids were exhausted.

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Did teams fold?

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No, it sounds like the 2026 Cannons just went to a 26/27 team to get a full roster.

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Anyone heard of this Shore Boys 26 team that is dominating the Indoor League?

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Anyone heard of this Shore Boys 26 team that is dominating the Indoor League?


Which indoor league is this?

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Shore Boys = 2027 Annapolis Hawks. Too good to play in the 27 brackets apparently. Team has a bunch of eastern shore kids, hence the name i guess. 3or 4 of the eastern shore 2026 Hawks on that team.

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Well, no one knows for sure. But some have whispered that they’re the reincarnated souls of the members of the 1922 Johns Hopkins National Championship Team. I don’t believe it though.

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Shore Boys = 2027 Annapolis Hawks. Too good to play in the 27 brackets apparently. Team has a bunch of eastern shore kids, hence the name i guess. 3or 4 of the eastern shore 2026 Hawks on that team.


Umm, or they didn't have enough 27's or 26's to form 2 teams so they have a combined 26/27 team as the name on the standings indicate.

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It’s the 2027 Hawks. Goalie is a 26. Couple more 26’s in the mix. Should be in 2025B to be honest.

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Well, no one knows for sure. But some have whispered that they’re the reincarnated souls of the members of the 1922 Johns Hopkins National Championship Team. I don’t believe it though.


Good stuff. I lol’d.

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Are the HOCO games always on Sunday? Or do they play Saturday, too?

I can't keep my youth sports schedules straight.

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Sunday except for the oldest division.

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Sunday except for the oldest division.



When does the HOCO schedule get posted?

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Sunday except for the oldest division.



When does the HOCO schedule get posted?

They take forever to release it. I would bet, mid-to-late March.

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Sunday except for the oldest division.



When does the HOCO schedule get posted?

They take forever to release it. I would bet, mid-to-late March.


Sounds right. a few days before it starts!

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Is it true Hawks are playing at Homewood Field?

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No, I heard that they were staying at Homewood Suites.

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Petro wanted to play them, but AD say No, Hawks players to old for college .

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Saw this posted in the 2023 forum......

2026 AA
Annapolis Hawks
Team 91
Arden Diamondbacks
FCA
Bethesda Blue
Crabs
VLC
Madlax Capital
AYLC (Annapolis Youth LC)
Looney's Orange

2026 A
Next Level
Kelly Post
Dark Horse
SCYL (South Carroll)
HLC (Hereford LC)
FLC (Fallston LC)
Zingos
Eastside Lacrosse
Green Hornets
Roughriders
HoCo
Forest Hill Select
Bay Dogs
3D Maryland
3D Virginia
Sidewinders

2026 B
MLC (Maryland LC)
Breakers
Kelly Post
MDX - R
Koopers
Bethesda Orange
Coppermine
True Maryland
Cannons
Madlax DMV
Team Maryland LC
CLC (Catonsville)
Bel Air

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Is it true Hawks are playing at Homewood Field?


Petro wanted to play them, but AD say No, Hawks players to old for college .



Playing LI express. Their coaches are Hopkins guys.

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2026 AA
Annapolis Hawks
Team 91
Arden Diamondbacks
FCA
Bethesda Blue
Crabs
VLC
Madlax Capital
AYLC (Annapolis Youth LC)
Looney's Orange

2026 A
Next Level
Kelly Post
Dark Horse
SCYL (South Carroll)
HLC (Hereford LC)
FLC (Fallston LC)
Zingos
Eastside Lacrosse
Green Hornets
Roughriders
HoCo
Forest Hill Select
Bay Dogs
3D Maryland
3D Virginia
Sidewinders

2026 B
MLC (Maryland LC)
Breakers
Kelly Post
MDX - R
Koopers
Bethesda Orange
Coppermine
True Maryland
Cannons
Madlax DMV
Team Maryland LC
CLC (Catonsville)
Bel Air

That is a lot of teams. Looks like they could move to four divisions like the older age groups

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Is Crabs as good as they are leading people to believe? And what happened to Cannons, why the B division?

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.



How did the Hawks 26 fair against the teams in the 25 division today?

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.



How did the Hawks 26 fair against the teams in the 25 division today?



There is no way the Hawks 26 kids compete against the 2025 age group, they arent that good

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the BLC 2027's, meaning mostly Mater Dei 26's, played and won 3 at the Next Level play day. Does that count? I mean they have over 20 kids on the roster and over 10 are born before 9/1/2008 and 2 are born in 2007. Seems fair.

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.



How did the Hawks 26 fair against the teams in the 25 division today?



There is no way the Hawks 26 kids compete against the 2025 age group, they arent that good


They competed in the 25 division and didn’t do well. Don’t you know the drill yet, or is 2026 your first kid? If the Hawks dads are quiet, they didn’t win.

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.



How did the Hawks 26 fair against the teams in the 25 division today?



There is no way the Hawks 26 kids compete against the 2025 age group, they arent that good


They competed in the 25 division and didn’t do well. Don’t you know the drill yet, or is 2026 your first kid? If the Hawks dads are quiet, they didn’t win.


Which is why they’re so noisy so very often.

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Cannons coach left. At the end of the fall they played with 13-14 kids

Anyone have insight on Crabs?

Whats this Hawks team doing playing 2025 this weekend


Not sure, why don’t you tell us why hawks dad.



How did the Hawks 26 fair against the teams in the 25 division today?



There is no way the Hawks 26 kids compete against the 2025 age group, they arent that good


They competed in the 25 division and didn’t do well. Don’t you know the drill yet, or is 2026 your first kid? If the Hawks dads are quiet, they didn’t win.


Which is why they’re so noisy so very often.

And there you have it folks, the Hawks dad. Like the true feminine cleansing product he is.

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You guys are hilarious. If the Hawks want to give their kids some run in the 2025 division, that's their business. If they get smacked, well then they should've right? If they win then good for them. At the end of the day until a team in their age group beats them then WHO CARES?

Focus on your kid, and their team, getting better and keep it moving. When you guys are constantly talking about certain teams is looks like you are swinging from their nuts.

Just my 2 cents

Oh yeah and let me guess you are gonna call me a Hawks Dad after this.

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The crabs are not good. AYLC beat them 11-0 in the fall

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My 2 cents....

I'm a NL parent (2027), we played when that 2026 Hawks team sat and vice versa so I saw a good chunk of their games from our tents near fields 18/19. They looked pretty good at moments, but that size difference was pretty crazy. The BLC defense was huge, had to be a few close to 5'10-6'0. Assuming that there are some hold backs on BLC and the Crabs, the non hold back Hawks were playing against 13 year olds. That's asking a lot.

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The crabs are not good. AYLC beat them 11-0 in the fall


The 2026 AYLC beat the 2025 Crabs 11-0??

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I'll put my name to this and not go Anonymous. Chris Wilkins. My son Eli is the 2026 goalie for AYLC, he was the Goalie for PLC the last 2 year and was briefly on both AYLC and the Crabs roster this fall, but we couldn't do both. Hawks are very good, they will be the team to beat this year. (Disclaimer, I am not Hawks dad, but my son had to choose between them and AYLC so I keep an eye on them and know people over there) They kept everyone and added more talent, so that's that. PLC did not "Fold", rather 13 players and the head coach left to go with AYLC as they were starting up the club program. I think I can give my honest opinion of the Crabs since my son played for them for a few months. The problem is 91 and FCA scooped up the top talent in Bmore county early and Crabs are fighting to get what they can. They will pull it together and be successful. Their Brand and time will help. FCA was one of the best teams I saw in the fall and last year and is solid all around. My son played for True in Box lacrosse this winter and we played 91 and they were fast and physical and very good. If Looneys keeps what they had from last year, we played them in a Championship game of some tournament wth PLC and won a 1 goal game. But they were very good. I do not know what happened to Diamondbacks. I believe they suffered the players leaving fate. I think that was our first game with Crabs this fall and beat them pretty good. Cannons 2026 as it was is done, they were awesome, but players and coaches split up. A team that is going to sneak up on people is VLC, they are solid on all levels and have some lights out shooters. I really can't remember too much about the other teams. These are simply some opinions with a name attached from someone who has sat and watched these teams play.

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Nice summary

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I'll put my name to this and not go Anonymous. Chris Wilkins. My son Eli is the 2026 goalie for AYLC, he was the Goalie for PLC the last 2 year and was briefly on both AYLC and the Crabs roster this fall, but we couldn't do both. Hawks are very good, they will be the team to beat this year. (Disclaimer, I am not Hawks dad, but my son had to choose between them and AYLC so I keep an eye on them and know people over there) They kept everyone and added more talent, so that's that. PLC did not "Fold", rather 13 players and the head coach left to go with AYLC as they were starting up the club program. I think I can give my honest opinion of the Crabs since my son played for them for a few months. The problem is 91 and FCA scooped up the top talent in Bmore county early and Crabs are fighting to get what they can. They will pull it together and be successful. Their Brand and time will help. FCA was one of the best teams I saw in the fall and last year and is solid all around. My son played for True in Box lacrosse this winter and we played 91 and they were fast and physical and very good. If Looneys keeps what they had from last year, we played them in a Championship game of some tournament wth PLC and won a 1 goal game. But they were very good. I do not know what happened to Diamondbacks. I believe they suffered the players leaving fate. I think that was our first game with Crabs this fall and beat them pretty good. Cannons 2026 as it was is done, they were awesome, but players and coaches split up. A team that is going to sneak up on people is VLC, they are solid on all levels and have some lights out shooters. I really can't remember too much about the other teams. These are simply some opinions with a name attached from someone who has sat and watched these teams play.


useful post, thanks. fwiw I have a kid on a (non-Hawks) 2026 Hoco AA team and Hawks were clearly the best team he played against, which makes sense since they won the championship.

No shame in losing to 2025 competition and kudos to them for playing up.

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I'll put my name to this and not go Anonymous. Chris Wilkins. My son Eli is the 2026 goalie for AYLC, he was the Goalie for PLC the last 2 year and was briefly on both AYLC and the Crabs roster this fall, but we couldn't do both. Hawks are very good, they will be the team to beat this year. (Disclaimer, I am not Hawks dad, but my son had to choose between them and AYLC so I keep an eye on them and know people over there) They kept everyone and added more talent, so that's that. PLC did not "Fold", rather 13 players and the head coach left to go with AYLC as they were starting up the club program. I think I can give my honest opinion of the Crabs since my son played for them for a few months. The problem is 91 and FCA scooped up the top talent in Bmore county early and Crabs are fighting to get what they can. They will pull it together and be successful. Their Brand and time will help. FCA was one of the best teams I saw in the fall and last year and is solid all around. My son played for True in Box lacrosse this winter and we played 91 and they were fast and physical and very good. If Looneys keeps what they had from last year, we played them in a Championship game of some tournament wth PLC and won a 1 goal game. But they were very good. I do not know what happened to Diamondbacks. I believe they suffered the players leaving fate. I think that was our first game with Crabs this fall and beat them pretty good. Cannons 2026 as it was is done, they were awesome, but players and coaches split up. A team that is going to sneak up on people is VLC, they are solid on all levels and have some lights out shooters. I really can't remember too much about the other teams. These are simply some opinions with a name attached from someone who has sat and watched these teams play.



Nice summary!

Since you have played on a couple of rosters what are some of the good and bad youve seen in different teams. Which team are you playing for and why choose them over others . Sounds like you have a real pulse on the 2026 division

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Not a Hawks dad but there's them and everyone else. They killed every team last year and there was no clear cut 2nd place. I'm curious too how they did against the 25's.

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Looney's father here. The Hawks were the team to beat last year and I am sure they grabbed some more good players for this season and will be even better. That seems to be how they roll at every grade level. However, they weren't invincible last year. Looneys beat them twice in Millon's 2026 Invitational last June. Looney's won 4-3 on Saturday and then again on Sunday in an epic OT championship (OT was untimed and went on for like 15 minutes!) 7-6. Looney's lost to them in HoCo 4-5. It was the first game of the HoCo season.

Chris Wilkins, I was wondering what happened to that PLC team we played in the Blue Hen Tourney. Looneys tied you guys 6-6 on Saturday and then you beat us in the championship the next day. Great team and well-coached. Your son played great in goal. My boy is the Looney's goalie. Now I know to look out for AYLC this season. Good luck this year!

BTW, whoever said that FCA and Team 91 got all of the 2026 talent in the Baltimore area is not correct. Although Looney's did lose once each to those teams last season (both 1 goal games) we beat both of those teams multiple times each last season (often by pretty big margins). I know some kids who went to 91 this year (the better players from the Lax World team that folded). They will be better this year. I am sure FCA got some more good kids. Not sure either of those teams is going to contend for the HoCo title, but only time will tell. As for Looney's, they kept all of their starters from last year and got deeper at midfield and D. Should be a fun season.

Let's hope for sunny skies and warmer weather this season. Last Spring was brutal. Good luck everyone!

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Looney's father here. The Hawks were the team to beat last year and I am sure they grabbed some more good players for this season and will be even better. That seems to be how they roll at every grade level. However, they weren't invincible last year. Looneys beat them twice in Millon's 2026 Invitational last June. Looney's won 4-3 on Saturday and then again on Sunday in an epic OT championship (OT was untimed and went on for like 15 minutes!) 7-6. Looney's lost to them in HoCo 4-5. It was the first game of the HoCo season.

Chris Wilkins, I was wondering what happened to that PLC team we played in the Blue Hen Tourney. Looneys tied you guys 6-6 on Saturday and then you beat us in the championship the next day. Great team and well-coached. Your son played great in goal. My boy is the Looney's goalie. Now I know to look out for AYLC this season. Good luck this year!

BTW, whoever said that FCA and Team 91 got all of the 2026 talent in the Baltimore area is not correct. Although Looney's did lose once each to those teams last season (both 1 goal games) we beat both of those teams multiple times each last season (often by pretty big margins). I know some kids who went to 91 this year (the better players from the Lax World team that folded). They will be better this year. I am sure FCA got some more good kids. Not sure either of those teams is going to contend for the HoCo title, but only time will tell. As for Looney's, they kept all of their starters from last year and got deeper at midfield and D. Should be a fun season.

Let's hope for sunny skies and warmer weather this season. Last Spring was brutal. Good luck everyone!



Wait an informed, thoughtful and upbeat post? Burn him!!!!

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I'll put my name to this and not go Anonymous. Chris Wilkins. My son Eli is the 2026 goalie for AYLC, he was the Goalie for PLC the last 2 year and was briefly on both AYLC and the Crabs roster this fall, but we couldn't do both. Hawks are very good, they will be the team to beat this year. (Disclaimer, I am not Hawks dad, but my son had to choose between them and AYLC so I keep an eye on them and know people over there) They kept everyone and added more talent, so that's that. PLC did not "Fold", rather 13 players and the head coach left to go with AYLC as they were starting up the club program. I think I can give my honest opinion of the Crabs since my son played for them for a few months. The problem is 91 and FCA scooped up the top talent in Bmore county early and Crabs are fighting to get what they can. They will pull it together and be successful. Their Brand and time will help. FCA was one of the best teams I saw in the fall and last year and is solid all around. My son played for True in Box lacrosse this winter and we played 91 and they were fast and physical and very good. If Looneys keeps what they had from last year, we played them in a Championship game of some tournament wth PLC and won a 1 goal game. But they were very good. I do not know what happened to Diamondbacks. I believe they suffered the players leaving fate. I think that was our first game with Crabs this fall and beat them pretty good. Cannons 2026 as it was is done, they were awesome, but players and coaches split up. A team that is going to sneak up on people is VLC, they are solid on all levels and have some lights out shooters. I really can't remember too much about the other teams. These are simply some opinions with a name attached from someone who has sat and watched these teams play.


Correct on the Cannons. My son is a 2027 Cannon this year. They are a 26/27 team. Low numbers at 2026 and 2027 while 2025 and 2028 have plenty. This is our first year with them but from what I hear they lost their 2 best players to the Hawks and a few others to other teams. We could certainly use them!!

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One week out to Hoco...is everyone playing tune-up games this weekend?

I know that Madlax has a play-day with AYCL, BLC Blue, Diamondbacks, and I think one other team. (Next Level maybe?) Do most of the programs have games?

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One week out to Hoco...is everyone playing tune-up games this weekend?

I know that Madlax has a play-day with AYCL, BLC Blue, Diamondbacks, and I think one other team. (Next Level maybe?) Do most of the programs have games?


Does the season start on the 24th or the 31st?

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Does the season start on the 24th or the 31st?

24th

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One week out to Hoco...is everyone playing tune-up games this weekend?

I know that Madlax has a play-day with AYCL, BLC Blue, Diamondbacks, and I think one other team. (Next Level maybe?) Do most of the programs have games?

Baydogs had a playday with AYLC, Zingos, and someone else. last night.

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I'll put my name to this and not go Anonymous. Chris Wilkins. My son Eli is the 2026 goalie for AYLC, he was the Goalie for PLC the last 2 year and was briefly on both AYLC and the Crabs roster this fall, but we couldn't do both. Hawks are very good, they will be the team to beat this year. (Disclaimer, I am not Hawks dad, but my son had to choose between them and AYLC so I keep an eye on them and know people over there) They kept everyone and added more talent, so that's that. PLC did not "Fold", rather 13 players and the head coach left to go with AYLC as they were starting up the club program. I think I can give my honest opinion of the Crabs since my son played for them for a few months. The problem is 91 and FCA scooped up the top talent in Bmore county early and Crabs are fighting to get what they can. They will pull it together and be successful. Their Brand and time will help. FCA was one of the best teams I saw in the fall and last year and is solid all around. My son played for True in Box lacrosse this winter and we played 91 and they were fast and physical and very good. If Looneys keeps what they had from last year, we played them in a Championship game of some tournament wth PLC and won a 1 goal game. But they were very good. I do not know what happened to Diamondbacks. I believe they suffered the players leaving fate. I think that was our first game with Crabs this fall and beat them pretty good. Cannons 2026 as it was is done, they were awesome, but players and coaches split up. A team that is going to sneak up on people is VLC, they are solid on all levels and have some lights out shooters. I really can't remember too much about the other teams. These are simply some opinions with a name attached from someone who has sat and watched these teams play.


Chris that is a nice summary and finally an informative post with some thought put into it; nice job!! I am a VLC parent and thank you for the props; we are growing together as a team and definitely headed in the right direction. Hopefully this will continue in the Spring/Summer months. We were in a play date last weekend at St. Andrews in Potomac, Md; VLC, Crabs, Next Level and FCA. We played very well against the Crabs and NL but FCA took it to us; 9 or 8 to 1 I believe. We played them in the Fall and they are vastly improved in all areas of the game. I am curious to see how well they do in the AA HOCO League this year but they beat all 3 AA teams Sunday. Hopefully we will see them again but they are fast and physical offensively and defensively with good ball movement. Crabs is improved but still needs to add some more talent; midfield looked good. Looking forward to the season; GO VLC!!!

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