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Definitely some good teams at qualifier but Next Level different class - went 6-0 and won semis 7-1 over BBL and won championship 10-2 against Big 5, who was undefeated in other bracket. NL will be tough out in Denver. There are MD elite teams that are on age, go figure!

Definitely some good teams at qualifier but Next Level different class - went 6-0 and won semis 7-1 over BBL and won championship 10-2 against Big 5, who was undefeated in other bracket. NL will be tough out in Denver. There are MD elite teams that are on age, go figure!

There has been a lot of talk on this Forum about HOLDBACKs and how they are ruining the game. This weekend at the WSYL qualifiers in MD, there were numerous kids that were 6 feet and taller, some kids are definitely shaving (as you could see the 5 o'clock shadow). I mean real big boys!!!

All of these kids regardless of their MS class are 2023 age appropriate, but would be abused by the HOLDBACK Bashers on this site. So next time you see a tall kid that is really good, why don't you find out his age before calling out his name or number

Definitely some good teams at qualifier but Next Level different class - went 6-0 and won semis 7-1 over BBL and won championship 10-2 against Big 5, who was undefeated in other bracket. NL will be tough out in Denver. There are MD elite teams that are on age, go figure!

What is an RN person?

The posts are being censored. RN - the R stands for a color and the N stands for a part of the body just below the head.

Actually their defense is gimmicky and ill advised. But hey - whatever it takes to win!

without the typical response of you know nothing about the game, can the Hawk parent who is bashing his own son's coaches please explain how playing a zone is hampering these young man from playing defense when they get to high school

without the typical response of you know nothing about the game, can the Hawk parent who is bashing his own son's coaches please explain how playing a zone is hampering these young man from playing defense when they get to high school

Make no mistake....it is not a Hawks dad bashing a Hawks coach. This is a forum of trolls who try to create skepticism within a team to tear them apart. I know many of the parents, kids and coaches on this team. There is a strong bond amongst them. Do not let some jealous troll on an anonymous forum create any doubt amongst you. Use the hate to make your team stronger and go out there and kick everyone’s butts. Who cares what anyone says if they don’t have guts to attach their name to it? Anonymous posts are trash! If someone feels so strongly about your coaching style then they should let you know specifically who they are!

Make no mistake....it is not a Hawks dad bashing a Hawks coach. This is a forum of trolls who try to create skepticism within a team to tear them apart. I know many of the parents, kids and coaches on this team. There is a strong bond amongst them. Do not let some jealous troll on an anonymous forum create any doubt amongst you. Use the hate to make your team stronger and go out there and kick everyone’s butts. Who cares what anyone says if they don’t have guts to attach their name to it? Anonymous posts are trash! If someone feels so strongly about your coaching style then they should let you know specifically who they are!

Man defense is significantly more complex than a simple 33 zone. On ball the defender has to know how to play his man from any spot on the field (vs one small area in zone). He has to know the footwork, how to open his hips and run, how and when to throw checks, how to recover when someone slides, how to handle picks, etc.

Off ball the defenders have to know who is the 1 slide, 2 slide, 3 slide etc in a constantly changing situation. Vs in a zone they are always in the same spot on the field so the slides are very basic. Man defense requires a lot of thinking, communication, and quick decisions. Zone defense is much simpler.

Generally teams out zones in when they think their defense is not capable of playing man to man. And a 33 zone is the simplest most basic zone there is. Essentially the hawks coaches are admitting that their defense is not good, so they will force an outside shot and gamble that the opponent cannot shoot hard enough to beat their goalie. This works until they are older and kids can shoot much harder and more accurately.

That’s the 30 second overview. There are many more nuances.

I figured you really wouldn't know what you were talking about and you just proved it, thanks for confirming. If your kid really is on the Hawks, just be glad he is getting good coaching in a good organization and let it go at that.

Definitely some good teams at qualifier but Next Level different class - went 6-0 and won semis 7-1 over BBL and won championship 10-2 against Big 5, who was undefeated in other bracket. NL will be tough out in Denver. There are MD elite teams that are on age, go figure!

Man defense is significantly more complex than a simple 33 zone. On ball the defender has to know how to play his man from any spot on the field (vs one small area in zone). He has to know the footwork, how to open his hips and run, how and when to throw checks, how to recover when someone slides, how to handle picks, etc.

Off ball the defenders have to know who is the 1 slide, 2 slide, 3 slide etc in a constantly changing situation. Vs in a zone they are always in the same spot on the field so the slides are very basic. Man defense requires a lot of thinking, communication, and quick decisions. Zone defense is much simpler.

Generally teams out zones in when they think their defense is not capable of playing man to man. And a 33 zone is the simplest most basic zone there is. Essentially the hawks coaches are admitting that their defense is not good, so they will force an outside shot and gamble that the opponent cannot shoot hard enough to beat their goalie. This works until they are older and kids can shoot much harder and more accurately.

That’s the 30 second overview. There are many more nuances.

I have a question for hawks parents. How do you feel about Dad's being the head coach? Do you feel as though play time is earned and given out appropriately?

Is the coach of FCA 23 also the head coach at Calvert Hall?

We all understand that NL did well this weekend, congrats, no need to keep pounding your chest on this forum. They had a great run on Sunday, but don't forget the Saturday Saltwater and Tristate games which were a lot closer. Chalk it up to nerves or a down game, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that NL is in a different class then every other team in the qualifier. In my opinion, I think that there were stronger teams in the NL bracket top to bottom, the results on Sunday made that pretty clear.

I’m not sure what you think you know - but the guy who laid out some of the differences between the defenses is absolutely correct.

I have a question for hawks parents. How do you feel about Dad's being the head coach? Do you feel as though play time is earned and given out appropriately?

It's a problem.

Also, there were a few kids that should have been moved to the Green team, but the Dad coaches refused. So they stayed on Black, and they play......perhaps when they shouldn't. That's why the Green Team folded - none of the coaches would agree to move "back."

If they could solve this, they would be the compete package.

Not really, to just label zone defense as easier than man to man is very simplistic and not accurate, he mentioned 2nd and 3rd slides, aren't you essentially sliding to a zone at that point and no longer playing a man. you have to communicate as much in either defense. A zone defense does not mean you are not aggressive on the ball and retreating off of it, you are just not allowing slides to be stretched as far, there are slides in zone defenses.

It's a problem.

Also, there were a few kids that should have been moved to the Green team, but the Dad coaches refused. So they stayed on Black, and they play......perhaps when they shouldn't. That's why the Green Team folded - none of the coaches would agree to move "back."

If they could solve this, they would be the compete package.

Tristate/Saltwater game a good won. Love to watch fast even a little aggressive games!!!!

This is 100% accurate, he just got the Black and Green teams mixed up. My son is on the Green team and we're dealing with this problem right now.

Trolls... they can't beat us so they try to break us down. Won't work. We all respect and support each other. Take your drama elsewhere!

Trolls... they can't beat us so they try to break us down. Won't work. We all respect and support each other. Take your drama elsewhere!