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Did any body hear that Gary Gait was going to coach the men at Syracuse.


I heard he was going to coach the YJ 2026 team - is that not true?

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all the geniuses on this forum one should figure out that the team or teams that actually decides to play defense is best equipped in the post season There are not many that do. For instance Syracuse is ranked 90th in the NCAA Florida 70thmaryland 53. Loyola 89th. I know people are selective of what facts they actually look at.
Usc vs Colorado tomorrow any predictions

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all the geniuses on this forum one should figure out that the team or teams that actually decides to play defense is best equipped in the post season There are not many that do. For instance Syracuse is ranked 90th in the NCAA Florida 70thmaryland 53. Loyola 89th. I know people are selective of what facts they actually look at.
Usc vs Colorado tomorrow any predictions


These aren't facts. Its fake News! Very misleading rankings. These teams have all played a tough schedule against teams with very good offenses. In addition they have good offenses that can score in a hurry which gives more possessions in the game. This stat should be scores by possession if you really want to see the best defenses. Do you really think that Cincinnati or Iona has a better defense than these teams? comical

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all the geniuses on this forum one should figure out that the team or teams that actually decides to play defense is best equipped in the post season There are not many that do. For instance Syracuse is ranked 90th in the NCAA Florida 70thmaryland 53. Loyola 89th. I know people are selective of what facts they actually look at.
Usc vs Colorado tomorrow any predictions


These aren't facts. Its fake News! Very misleading rankings. These teams have all played a tough schedule against teams with very good offenses. In addition they have good offenses that can score in a hurry which gives more possessions in the game. This stat should be scores by possession if you really want to see the best defenses. Do you really think that Cincinnati or Iona has a better defense than these teams? comical


Shot clock has changed the entire paradigm of the game, for starters it has created parody to a large degree, another side effect is that every ncaa, school and individual statistical record will be broken - goals, assists, dc, gb, etc. You now have to play a FULL game, no more stalling, no more take a 4-5 minute break in the middle of the game until your middies get their legs back. It causes a sloppy and wildly inconsistent game when its full speed ahead every 90 second possession. Still think the men's game has it right with the refs calling the stall and throwing on the 30 sec clock

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all the geniuses on this forum one should figure out that the team or teams that actually decides to play defense is best equipped in the post season There are not many that do. For instance Syracuse is ranked 90th in the NCAA Florida 70thmaryland 53. Loyola 89th. I know people are selective of what facts they actually look at.
Usc vs Colorado tomorrow any predictions


These aren't facts. Its fake News! Very misleading rankings. These teams have all played a tough schedule against teams with very good offenses. In addition they have good offenses that can score in a hurry which gives more possessions in the game. This stat should be scores by possession if you really want to see the best defenses. Do you really think that Cincinnati or Iona has a better defense than these teams? comical


Yeah Maryland’s games vs UMBC Hofstra and William and Mary were real tough games lolol

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all the geniuses on this forum one should figure out that the team or teams that actually decides to play defense is best equipped in the post season There are not many that do. For instance Syracuse is ranked 90th in the NCAA Florida 70thmaryland 53. Loyola 89th. I know people are selective of what facts they actually look at.
Usc vs Colorado tomorrow any predictions


These aren't facts. Its fake News! Very misleading rankings. These teams have all played a tough schedule against teams with very good offenses. In addition they have good offenses that can score in a hurry which gives more possessions in the game. This stat should
be scores by possession if you really want to see the best defenses. Do you really think that Cincinnati or Iona has a better defense than these teams? comical


Yeah Maryland’s games vs UMBC Hofstra and William and Mary were real tough games lolol


But what a genius like you does not understand is they play the backups for much of the game .

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Did anyone see the Notre Dame game? To lose is one thing but based on the score it was not very competitive.

ND is a mess right now. They are slow, the offense can't get it together and the defense... I don't even know what to say!


Coaching Coaching Coaching. You need both talent and good coaching. It doesn't matter who is on the field , you need good coaching to be successful.

Ok Daddy. Look, we get it. Your daughter decided to attend ND. You think she's amazing. She probably gets a lot of accolades. And you just don't understand how she could dominate mediocre to bad high school and club teams, and now can't do jack at the collegiate level (or maybe she isn't there yet and you think she'll be the savior?) Either way, the bottom line is, ND gets a collection of hyped players that for the most part aren't team players. Bad recruiting. Which then leads to a bunch of coach killers on the roster. Halfpenny doesn't stand a chance.

darn you are jealous. Your holiday is coming up and you don't have to wear the color, you are already green with envy.

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Did anyone see the Notre Dame game? To lose is one thing but based on the score it was not very competitive.

ND is a mess right now. They are slow, the offense can't get it together and the defense... I don't even know what to say!


Coaching Coaching Coaching. You need both talent and good coaching. It doesn't matter who is on the field , you need good coaching to be successful.

Ok Daddy. Look, we get it. Your daughter decided to attend ND. You think she's amazing. She probably gets a lot of accolades. And you just don't understand how she could dominate mediocre to bad high school and club teams, and now can't do jack at the collegiate level (or maybe she isn't there yet and you think she'll be the savior?) Either way, the bottom line is, ND gets a collection of hyped players that for the most part aren't team players. Bad recruiting. Which then leads to a bunch of coach killers on the roster. Halfpenny doesn't stand a chance.


Sorry, my daughter does not go to ND and no she is not coomited there either. Just a fact, you need both talent and good coaching in order to be successful.

You sound like one of the jealous, bitter , haters who troll this site.


Fun fact. You are the one trolling the ND coach. You are the one being negative. But of course you know they have the talent and not the coaching right? Couldn't be the other way around?

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Why even have a coach if it is all on the players? Just let them run around and do their thing.

You are another parent who knows very little about athletics and team sports.

What do you think is happening at ND? We are not talking about one game or one season. Why are they unable to consistently be a Top 10 program?

You need both talent and coaching but coaching is the more important of the two.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Why even have a coach if it is all on the players? Just let them run around and do their thing.

You are another parent who knows very little about athletics and team sports.

What do you think is happening at ND? We are not talking about one game or one season. Why are they unable to consistently be a Top 10 program?

You need both talent and coaching but coaching is the more important of the two.


Love it. You have all the answers AND know everyone else's background. Mensa, I'm sure. You obviously have an axe to grind with the coach. The players at ND have underachieved. They certainly deserve some of the blame. Have heard for years that the girls on the team do not have good chemistry. You can blame that on the coach. You can also blame that on the girls. Maybe they are a bunch of selfish, me first players? Probably with a bunch of me first helicopter parents, too.

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not just ND. Florida should have two championships already

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


It's not a quality win for a legitimate #1 team in the country. Most of the teams up there year after year (Maryland, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Florida) would view a win over Towson as a typical win. Their measuring tick is higher than that. I will give you that it's as good as SB can do because they have such a weak schedule, but just because the other teams on the schedule are really bad, it doesn't then elevate a Towson to some kind of status that they don't deserve. The #1 team beating a team outside the top 10 in women's lacrosse is almost always a given.

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Did anyone see the Notre Dame game? To lose is one thing but based on the score it was not very competitive.

ND is a mess right now. They are slow, the offense can't get it together and the defense... I don't even know what to say!


Coaching Coaching Coaching. You need both talent and good coaching. It doesn't matter who is on the field , you need good coaching to be successful.

Ok Daddy. Look, we get it. Your daughter decided to attend ND. You think she's amazing. She probably gets a lot of accolades. And you just don't understand how she could dominate mediocre to bad high school and club teams, and now can't do jack at the collegiate level (or maybe she isn't there yet and you think she'll be the savior?) Either way, the bottom line is, ND gets a collection of hyped players that for the most part aren't team players. Bad recruiting. Which then leads to a bunch of coach killers on the roster. Halfpenny doesn't stand a chance.


Sorry, my daughter does not go to ND and no she is not coomited there either. Just a fact, you need both talent and good coaching in order to be successful.

You sound like one of the jealous, bitter , haters who troll this site.


Fun fact. You are the one trolling the ND coach. You are the one being negative. But of course you know they have the talent and not the coaching right? Couldn't be the other way around?


Who picks the talent??? That's a big part of the job, letting YJ and Steps directors tell you who to recruit might not be in your best interest if you're the coach at ND

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.

So would that be the same as Maryland beating unranked Hofstra by 7 or Cuse beating unranked Harvard by 7 or UNc beating high point by 4 Come on a win is a win that's all that matters

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.


Because you are an stunad and don’t under lax or parody and I do t like SB and my kid goes to a mid major who is frustrated by Sb

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.

So would that be the same as Maryland beating unranked Hofstra by 7 or Cuse beating unranked Harvard by 7 or UNc beating high point by 4 Come on a win is a win that's all that matters


It would be #1 Maryland last year (2017) beating:
# 13 Northwestern by 8 & 9
#9 Florida by 10
#10 Syracuse by 10
#14 Virginia by 5
#15 JMU by 5

That's an average win total for Maryland in those games of 8 (7.833).
I actually expect SB to put up a win by 7-10.
It is also the kind of score a true #1 puts up over teams like Towson in years past. Since SB does not play any of the current top 8 teams in the ranking, the only way to tell if they really deserve that #1 ranking is for them to win games like this by margins like Maryland did last year. It's fine to have that type of expectation for them. Relax with all the name calling and stop being so nervous.

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


It's not a quality win for a legitimate #1 team in the country. Most of the teams up there year after year (Maryland, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Florida) would view a win over Towson as a typical win. Their measuring tick is higher than that. I will give you that it's as good as SB can do because they have such a weak schedule, but just because the other teams on the schedule are really bad, it doesn't then elevate a Towson to some kind of status that they don't deserve. The #1 team beating a team outside the top 10 in women's lacrosse is almost always a given.


Geez, ok we get it. For 40 pages all you can talk about is SB's weak schedule and demean the teams they play. Cmon man come up with something new. We will see come May how it all shakes out. Truth be told....you sound like a disgruntled lax parent whose kid didn't get to go to SB. Enjoy the games and the athletes that play for the different teams.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?


Notre Dame should be better. ND is a good program that consistently ends the season ranked in the Top 20. They are one of the Top 10 - 12 programs in the country. They just can't seem to break into that group of elite teams that make it to the Final Four or win a championship. What holds them back? Coaching. Absolutely no other reason.

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There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching.

If as some of you say.... "the players are just not that good" or "they are all over hyped" then who is to blame? It's on the coach. Recruiting is part of coaching. Identifying talent is part of coaching. If they do not have the talent it is all on the coach. Notre Dame is an excellent school, if they are not bringing in top talent it is because of the coach.

If the bitter pricks are wrong and Notre Dame does bring in legit talent and they underperform that is on the coach as well.

Some schools have a tough time landing the top talent but Notre Dame is not one of those schools.

It is really simple, if she does not have the talent it is her own fault. If she has the talent and still can't compete with the best programs it on her as well.


So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?


Missed the point, everyone loses on occasion when they probably shouldn't, then there are teams that lose far too often when they shouldn't - coach buys the groceries and makes the meal, so that's where it starts and far too often the meal has not met expectations

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[quote=Anonymous]There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching

So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?


Missed the point, everyone loses on occasion when they probably shouldn't, then there are teams that lose far too often when they shouldn't - coach buys the groceries and makes the meal, so that's where it starts and far too often the meal has not met expectations


You are missing the point. Who says they shouldn’t be losing? Why? I say they should be losing. The players they have are just not as good as everyone keeps saying. You keep saying they should be winning when they are not. What’s your evidence that they should be winning?

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


It's not a quality win for a legitimate #1 team in the country. Most of the teams up there year after year (Maryland, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Florida) would view a win over Towson as a typical win. Their measuring tick is higher than that. I will give you that it's as good as SB can do because they have such a weak schedule, but just because the other teams on the schedule are really bad, it doesn't then elevate a Towson to some kind of status that they don't deserve. The #1 team beating a team outside the top 10 in women's lacrosse is almost always a given.


Geez, ok we get it. For 40 pages all you can talk about is SB's weak schedule and demean the teams they play. Cmon man come up with something new. We will see come May how it all shakes out. Truth be told....you sound like a disgruntled lax parent whose kid didn't get to go to SB. Enjoy the games and the athletes that play for the different teams.


They you get the other side of this discussion with Northwestern who plays a tough schedule but has wins against wait for it.... Marquette, Canisius, Detroit Mercy and then a decent win against Colorado and a solid win against USC. Does not matter if you play a tough schedule and cannot win with losses against an ok Duke team and top teams like Stony Brook and UNC. Does it prepare them for the post season, maybe, they win a game or two in the playoffs but have not sniffed a national title in six years after complete domination for years.

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[quote=Anonymous]There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching

So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?


Missed the point, everyone loses on occasion when they probably shouldn't, then there are teams that lose far too often when they shouldn't - coach buys the groceries and makes the meal, so that's where it starts and far too often the meal has not met expectations


You are missing the point. Who says they shouldn’t be losing? Why? I say they should be losing. The players they have are just not as good as everyone keeps saying. You keep saying they should be winning when they are not. What’s your evidence that they should be winning?


The point is they are NOTRE DAME, the school recruits itself, if the coach had any clue they would easily be a top 10 team every year, ND doesn't have to beg kids to go there. So again, she isn't recruiting the right kids and/or doesn't know what to do with them once they are there, not a comment to this group in particular, but the program since she's been there has consistently underachieved.

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Acacia is an amazing coach and person. She is much more than a coach. She is a role model for the girls. It’s disgusting to say those things about her especially since the cause of your daughters failure was more than likely the guidance and advice she received from you.

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Complete bull [ChillLaxin] post. I know some of the kids who thankfully chose not to go to BC. And I’m pretty sure we know who is behind this smear campaign against Acacia. Keep it up and you and your kids name will be posted to set the record straight because you are a train wreck!

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


It's not a quality win for a legitimate #1 team in the country. Most of the teams up there year after year (Maryland, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Florida) would view a win over Towson as a typical win. Their measuring tick is higher than that. I will give you that it's as good as SB can do because they have such a weak schedule, but just because the other teams on the schedule are really bad, it doesn't then elevate a Towson to some kind of status that they don't deserve. The #1 team beating a team outside the top 10 in women's lacrosse is almost always a given.


Being in America East definitely hurts Stony Brook. I think JS has gotten as many challenging games as he could. He knows the regular season means nothing and SB are going to the tournament no matter what. Who's going to stop them from winning the AE championship? No one. So you have to figure he doesn't care much who the team plays as long as it makes the team better. Florida has been on their schedule for years, and this year they aren't? Seems fishy. I'm willing to bet he didn't get many takers when it came to scheduling games against top competition. If you look at it from a Maryland, UNC, Cuse, FL standpoint - why would you want to make SB better by playing them in the regular season? If you win, it doesn't stop them from advancing to the tournament so what is the point? And either way, it better prepares SB for the postseason. If I was one of those coaches, I wouldn't play SB either. It is a good strategy to let them get lazy playing the lackluster AE teams.

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Stony Brook v Towson tomorrow, shaping up to be a very good & meaningful game


Nice try. Stony Brook is not playing any top competition until the NCAAs.


Not trying anything... Towson is a very good team.. will make the bracket.. and IF...Stony Brook wins this game this is a quality win


I would expect the number 1 team to beat the number 14 team in women's lax by 7-10 goals.


Beat them by 5. Too close for comfort for SB. Tied at 8 with about 10 minutes left in 2nd half. A number of weak calls, Towson with a number of unforced turnovers that SB capitalized on, otherwise game would have finished closer than 13-8. Final score does not reflect the game.

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[quote=Anonymous]There is one reason a program like Notre Dame is not more successful and it is coaching

So whenever a team loses it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game.


Big difference between losing and underachieving...


Great so lets parse words. So whenever a team underachieves some nebulous expectation, it's the coach's fault, got it. Way to take the blame off the players who actually play the game. You really seem to want to protect and coddle these athletes that are underachieving.

How do you know they are underachieving btw? Maybe the players just aren't as good as you think they are. See the problem with your logic?

Lets leave it at ND is not very good. The coach needs to coach better, and the players need to play better. Lets call it 50/50 and move on to some teams that actually matter in women's lax. ok?


Missed the point, everyone loses on occasion when they probably shouldn't, then there are teams that lose far too often when they shouldn't - coach buys the groceries and makes the meal, so that's where it starts and far too often the meal has not met expectations


You are missing the point. Who says they shouldn’t be losing? Why? I say they should be losing. The players they have are just not as good as everyone keeps saying. You keep saying they should be winning when they are not. What’s your evidence that they should be winning?


The point is they are NOTRE DAME, the school recruits itself, if the coach had any clue they would easily be a top 10 team every year, ND doesn't have to beg kids to go there. So again, she isn't recruiting the right kids and/or doesn't know what to do with them once they are there, not a comment to this group in particular, but the program since she's been there has consistently underachieved.


Oh wow. they are NOTRE DAME. What is that supposed to mean? Newsflash, plenty of people don't think Notre Dame is all that. The school recruits itself? It's in the middle of nowhere, freezing and to non catholics is way down the list. The academics are good but not Ivy level. If that was the case, Stanford would win every year. Or any number of schools that have a more complete package to more people than Notre Dame.

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Btw ND is all that..just ask Rudy. Freshman seem to be the best players on the team right now. Give them a couple of years and with the recruits coming up, ND will be on top. And comical how you say Academics aren't that great. Your jealousy coming thru again. Tsk tsk

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Btw ND is all that..just ask Rudy. Freshman seem to be the best players on the team right now. Give them a couple of years and with the recruits coming up, ND will be on top. And comical how you say Academics aren't that great. Your jealousy coming thru again. Tsk tsk


I do not see this getting better anytime soon which is unfortunate for everyone

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Btw ND is all that..just ask Rudy. Freshman seem to be the best players on the team right now. Give them a couple of years and with the recruits coming up, ND will be on top. And comical how you say Academics aren't that great. Your jealousy coming thru again. Tsk tsk

Finally show your true colors.

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Success or lack there of is on the coach. We are not talking about winning or losing individual games we are talking about "The Program" and body of work over the coaches tenure. Now, there are Division I programs that are not going to be able to compete with the top programs. These are the programs that are not "fully funded", have subpar facilities, have limited or no help with admissions, have very small budgets, have very little support from the school, are lesser know schools, schools that are not desirable to many players from "hot bed areas". Many of these school may actually be very successful in their own right but they are not going to be competing with the top programs in the country (and that is okay).

Some of The Coaches is responsibilities include:

* Identifying Athletes.
* Determining which of those Athletes will help their program.
* Recruiting "selling".
* Committing / signing / landing (convincing players to attend their school).
* Teaching / Coaching / Training.
* Developing Team Culture.
* Setting Team Goals.
* Leading.
* Inspiring.
* Game Planning.
* In game coaching.
* Deciding who plays in games and who sits.
* Selecting assistant coaches.
* etc...

If the coach does not recruit top talent who is to blame?
If the coach can not utilize, develop or inspire the talent they have who is to blame?
If the strategies, schemes, tactics and plays are unsuccessful who is to blame?
If the assistant coaches are ineffective who is to blame?

This is a Team Sport and players must be coached and set up to succeed. Simply having great players is not enough. Those players must be utilized correctly and all all players must work together as a team. The coach must paint the big picture and set the overall tone. The coach must implement strategies for all facets of the game (Draw, Transition Offense & Defense, Settled Offense, Settled Defense, Redefending, Clearing, extra-man, man-down, etc..). Offensive and defensive concepts, schemes, sets and plays are all on the coach and the players must know their roles and responsibilities at all times. Any coach who allows an individual player to "do her own thing" will ultimately be undermined by that player and it will hurt the team.

Notre Dame has everything in place to be more successful: Quality Academics, University Support, Excellent Facilities, Budget, Fully Funded, Academic Support for Student Athletes etc..

Notice I said "more successful". Notre Dame is one of the Top 10 - 15 programs in the country. Some believe that with all the school has to offer they should be better. Some want to blame the coach, some of the haters want to blame the players.

IMHO the coach is okay, not great but I don't think terrible.

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