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Does anyone know if the Stony Brook vs Penn State game is going to be played on Big Ten Network on Saturday? Not too many televised games early on, but Friday night's match-up should be fun to watch!

Channel 247 on Optimum at 2pm

Nice win for PSU, great to see a few Long Island boys on both teams doing well,

Albany with a complete beat down on Cuse, they could take it all this year, will beat Duke who has no FOGO

Villanova keeps surprising with a gritty win I’ve too ranked Yale

Hopkins looked good over a weak Towson, not so goof yesterday

Hofstra falling to OSU was disappointing, they were in that game till the end with strong goalie and face off play, just couldn’t finish

Maryland going that close with a weak High Point is concerning, looked sloppy all over

Army looks strong

New to this,my son plays d2 at NYIT. TODAY we lost to Merrimack the #1 team 15-13, it was a great game

Lots of 1 and 2 goal games - upsets and surprises up and down the scoreboard...
Large talent pool created college lax parity

Massapequa kid Lynskey game Winner in double OT,

What a great weekend of games with 3 OT thrillers and some big upsets. I am obviously a big time St John's fan and they are off to a 2-1 start but Trevor B from Denver is a BEAST with winning 22/22 Face-offs.

Against who??? Let’s see him beat a real opponent. Oh yea his schedule is weak! What happened to him last year when he had to verse someone who actually knows how to face off? Yea he blew it! Will do the same this year. He does do a great job flopping though. Tap him on the back and he’ll fall on the ball everytime. Can’t wait to see him take a beating from TD, if his team isn’t eliminated first.

He went 23-of-30 (.767) vs Duke and I thought he had a bad day. Remember, he is 3x All-American, 2x Tewaaraton Award Nominee, Tewaaraton Finalist last year and is 4th All-Time in GB's. Now sure what you are watching or if you have ever played this game to comprehend how dominant he is but the only thing I agree with is the flopping he does but who cares and why are you hating on this kid so much?

Don't hate, but it is annoying that the refs are generally scared to call anything against him. And didn't he go under 50% a couple weeks ago against a weak Air Force fogo? Lets save the bragging for a solid performance against a better opponent. The only quality match-ups he will face have is Towson, Villanova and OSU. I'll be a believer when I see him go 70% plus against those teams fogos.

You are right, he did only go 50% but for the year so far he has won 78 and only lost 16 (8 versus the AF Fogo) which is ~83%. We will see how he does against those teams you mentioned but Alex W from Towson has already lost 26 face offs in 3 games with one team who is irrelevant and the other 2 guys I don't even know. Towson also plays Duke, Ohio State and Georgetown so we will see how Woodland does against those teams to compare their stats vs common opponents. The flopping is annoying and the refs have to stop being scared but it's like all other sports, the best players always get bias calls but I will say that when you are leaning over to get a gb, sometimes a little tap on the back can knock you down. I still agree he is Flopping a lot.

Didn't TB have a PERFECT day this weekend?

The Albany kid TD will be the thorn in Baptistes side. He is better and will be the reason TB does not receive the Tewaaraton.

I was going to say that he looks legit but I think Baptiste goes into that being a 3x AA, a Finalist last year with yesterdays record performance (I believe it is an NCAA record but I could be wrong) on top of being probably the all time or 2nd all time leader in GB's so I feel that his Career will factored in with the voting but it also depends on how far Denver goes..

If Stonybrook doesn't beat Hofstra tomorrow, looks like the coach will be fired, JS moving in? Girls are done after this year, win or lose. Maybe he'll bring in his 91 posse and turn that embarrassing program around?

Wow! It’s seems as if Stonybrook has just given up. Very sad! No energy whatsoever. What’s going on there?

Nagle has got nothing left. He's done. He probably knows it. The AD at SB want's wins and Nagle can't deliver. He should retire and save himself the embarrassment.

My money says Spallina cuts a deal to run both the mens and womens programs. If anyone could make that work, he'd be the one. Director of Lacrosse.

What about junior college?? Go Nassau!!!!

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First, Stony Brook would never hire JS to be the coach of the Men's team on top of the great job that he has been doing as the Women's HC. Between recruiting, watching game film, writing scouting reports and the fact that the seasons overlap among so many other crazy things that take up a lot of the coaches time. You may often see a Division 3 Coach and you will also find a couple Division 2 coaches, coach 2 sports but keep in mind that D3 is usually not year round which allows a coach to help coach two sports such as Dawn Anselim at Mercy College and Blair Ingraham at Wesleyan just to name a few.

Ggovel - I will have to tell my buddy Jordan Levine and some others

"D3 not usually year round" Only in the NESCAC. Every other top D3 mens' program has two fall ball competitions, many practices, captains practices and a 4-5 days a week conditioning and lifting program on top of that. Many teams also play box as well. Not sure when you last checked in on high level D3 but the commitment is nearly as high as the average D1 program. Big difference is kids do not get preferential treatment for selecting classes and DO NOT get the free unlimited tutoring that D1 kids get. So in many ways, one could make the point that D3 is harder to manage than D!, far less support.

Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of hearing these lacrosse commentators drool over certain players. Hard to listen to. I was watching this Denver game, and all I heard about was Trevor Baptiste this, Trevor Baptiste that. Yet he only went 60% against a mediocre opponent, and was lucky to do that. The other day watching the Hopkins game, I almost had to turn off the volume the way these guys were acting as some of these players were the best thing in college lacrosse after scoring 1 goal. Please stop!

Its just you.....

West Islip Graf's doing well Mainstay UVA. Manhattan goalie must have 25 saves.
4-4 going towards 4th qtr

May have spoken too soon 6-4 UVA

Great game in da Bronx. 8-5 UVA. 18 Saves by Manhattan goalie.

Villanova fell apart against Brown, they got lucky a few times this season... not that good.

Albany looked great, much better than last week.

Penn also rebounded nicely against a weak looking Navy.

Cornell pummeled Binghamton. What happened to ZBing, they looked good last year but completely fell apart this year. They may even be worse than Stonybrook.

Penn State looks better than the did earlier this season.

I’m looking forward to Maryland vs Albany this weekend. Will be very interesting to see a few of the matchups

will there be a battle at Beth[page this year?

It was a great game - Manhattan hung w/ UVA pretty much even through 3Qs. Their GK stood on his head to help make that happen. Both Ds were pretty stingy all night, but UVA closed down everything in the fourth and Manhattan didn't do anything on the man up. But, not bad against #8! Manhattan's program looks to be on the rise.

Virginia is done with their best player out for the season.

Manhattan goalie could be AA this year

Inside Lacrosse Freshman rankings are out. Very interesting that some of the top recruits are nowhere to be found, or far from where they were projected to be #daddyball
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2017-early-season-di-freshman-rankings/51621

Early recruiting!! Many sitting on bench.

FYI .... with some exceptions....freshman usually take a year or more to make the adjustment to the speed, size and competition. The poster seemed to be implying some sort of failure by these kids to not yet be starring or getting much PT. How about the upper classmen who also had to wait their opportunity? They too were featured h.s. players and waited for various amounts of time before playing. Its a pretty big achievement to be a member of a college team let alone garner playing time for the first couple of years , and sometimes it just doesn't work out that way at all. its not a failure. .

Ignorant and jealous parent.....nothing new

If you're a top recruit, you should play right away. Why? because you show up in practice and at games. The best will take the field, and perform when they are out there. Otherwise, they'll be on the bench.

What about the top recruits from prior years?
They are done if they don’t play right away?
You know nothing Jon snow

Actually most crash and burn in college, if you look back.

"most"??

What happen at Delaware?

Have no knowledge of the situation. However, new Coach lost his job at Cornell because of off the field issues. I am "assuming" that his tolerance for any off the field situation is nearly zero. Nor does administration have any tolerance for these issues. In today's college environment, players on Lacrosse teams are under a microscope. One's behavior is more highly scrutinized. The whole "privilege" thing is an easy and desirable target for University Administration. Keep in mind that most Lacrosse players were given entry to a school they might not have gotten into if it were not for lacrosse. The ideologues in these institutions see this as admissions spots being taken away from under represented groups and given to people of privilege. This is the mentality you are dealing with at these schools, tell your son's to be very careful. Additionally, your son will also be held accountable for things he might have done off campus as well. Because of his impact on the greater community. Now if the greater community has an impact on your son, well that's too bad. University does nothing to help you. You know, like being the victim of crime. The things we did in college that were considered pranks or just silliness are now grounds for suspension or expulsion. Dismissal from the Lacrosse team should be the least of your worries. By the way, your son doesn't need to guilty of anything. The severity of the accusation, followed by the "preponderance of the evidence" is enough to bring the hammer down. Which means, if we think you may have done something, your done. Regardless of what you actually did or didn't do.

Hofstra looked terrible against Lehigh. Coach going nuts on his staff. Players had no hustle. What gives? Time for a change?

Why are you surprised? Hofstra craps the bed about this same time every year.

Be careful criticizing Hofstra coach

Have no dog in the race, let’s jusy say Seth wants to recruit your little Timmy, so you google address and up comes Town of Hempstead stats not pretty. Also Hofstra on Forbes is ranked 528 not pretty.the fact that he gets some talent there is shocking .

The team revolves around coaches son. Shocking isn't it?

Why is that shocking ? Didn't he have 7 assists the other day ? Maybe the TEAM is just not that good.

I’m not a big Hofstra fan, but Coaches son is one of the best kids on that team. They had a bad day....it happens

Towson got spanked. What is wrong with their goalie?

Goalie is the least of their problems. Complete meltdown. OSU fell apart as well. Hopkins playing well, as is MD. Still think Albany takes it.

OK Towson lost 9-3 Goalie made 8 saves let up 9 .471 pct how is there a Goalie problem.

His son deserves to play and Coach T's main objective is to win so the idea of favoritism from the speculations of others is crazy. Towson lost to 5 top 20 ranked teams with 2 in the Top 5 so their record doesn't justify their talent...They have some guys that can play but Hofstra did have a bad day vs an in conference opponent.

Hofstra coaches son played on team 91, and Towson had Outlaws son. That's why Hofstra had the better day.

Hofstra lacrosse in freefall

Bucknell got snubbed from the Tournament. They need to get rid of some of the AQ's or have a better selection system

I wouldnt say eliminate the AQ, the AQ is the best thing to happen to maybe add 3 more spots and see what happens. Have 4 play in games, and make those the at-large bids and let them play against 5/6/7/8 teams.

and who cares about "regionality" finals are over.

Yes Bucknell got snubbed but so did Cornell, always love to see 'Cuse in but in hoops and now lax they got lucky

Interesting day. Was hoping Albany could do it, but they were outmatched at every position. Not a fan of Duke or MD, but am glad Duke won. MD needs a slice of humble pie. All their smack talking came back and smacked them in the face. Duke came to play, and MD did not.

Anyone at the Yale/ND scrimmage today? Was wondering if TD did any better after the beatdown he took last weekend. Seems like the grass may not be greener for him!

What’s going on with Stony Brook? Time for Spallina to take over?

Worst part is that they were buried by Long Island boys. Recruiting on the island needs to be better!

Long past due. Time for a change !

Another upset in DII as #15 Mercy takes down #2 LeMoyne.

What happened to Hopkins?? Looks like it’s going to be a tough year for them. darn early recruiting!

What happened to Hopkins was that Loyola is the best team in the Country. However I am curious about the early recruiting comment which would seemed to be aimed at the player who committed in 8th grade. Do you think he is part of the problem? Watching the game he looks ready to have a great four years and already has decent stats. He may be freshman of the year.

Early recruiting bac nothing to do w Hopkins. A lot more parity in the game plus Pat Spencer is a Beast.

Wasn’t talking about him, just the team in general. No fire, just mediocre. Yes, Loyola is hot but the game should have been closer, as the Towson game as well. Since you brought up “#1 recruit” didn’t see him doing much. He’s absent from stat leaders and not receiving any FOW accolades. Many top players from HS disappear in college. To early to tell, there is definitely a learning curve, so we’ll see. A lot of pressure on these kids, being under the microscope week after week can be tough!

Years ago there were only so many top players to go around. Skill level for most players was average at best in HS besides top players. Most only played in Spring and a little summer. If you were a top player you went to a top player college, Hop,VA, Cuse, etc...Today with the explosion of club along with lacrosse going well in several different states, there is a huge amount of players with skills. You can practice and play year round now. Many skilled players get overlooked , even in supposebly hotbed areas. There is just so many to choose from, hard to always pick the best.... And the stars in HS arent always the stars in college. And if you dont get the overlooked HS player and he turns out to be a star on another team, well you go the way some big name teams have gone in last two years..I think parity is here for 20-30 teams...no longer a select 5-10 teams.

Hopkins biggest problem is three fold I think.. They are on the small side for middies especially SSDM's, offense doesnt at this time seem to have a dodger that draws slides every time, heck the best dodger looks like Freshman Epstein at this time, Their 6-4 dodger looks awkward every time he dodges.. ..and too complicated a defense.
They are in for a rough year without a playoff spot in my opinion

And he's not even in the

Stop with Spencer! Yes he's great. But currently he's 8th in points, 19th in goals, and 7th in assists. He's a media darling, but not a clear forefront for anything right now. Hopkins did not loose because of him, they lost because they're not good.

Might want to look at his highlights from game on LSN. Two dead on behind the back passes to players for scores. Another D pole fell over his own feet due to a stutter step dodge, A couple of shots from outside that were wow shots, and his usual array of dodges that he makes look effortless. He is one of top attackman this year.

He has 4 goals 4 assists in his first two games?? I was talking about JE

What happened to Virginia? Asher Nolting?

Penn State loses 25 out of 30 face offs and only lost the game by 1 goal, the importance of a FOGO.

The dive rule needs to go. It will be unfortunately at the expense of a goalie ending his season with an injury.

FOGO not as important now because of shot clock.

Can you explain why? Honest question, why do you think possession is not as important now because of shot clock?

Just my opinion... Teams are now forced to take a shot therefore It is much tougher to stall. Every team will have more possessions and more opportunities to get back in a game if they are behind. FOGO still important just not as much as it was. look at the Penn State vs Yale game, Yale won 25 of 31 FO's and was up 13 - 8 in the Q 4... final score 14 - 13 Yale.

Is Joe Spallina going to take over the Stony Brook Mens program? Could be great for LI!

It'll be a good look for LI. Flashy tan, shiny white teeth, gold sunglasses, and a "Joey" on the sideline.

TD