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Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.
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Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.
Fake news
3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.
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Not fake news.
Priority #1 of USL next year.
The clubs and recs who start planning now will be the ones that thrive.
Exciting to hear. It will be tough next year, but good for the game, overall.

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Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.
Fake news
3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times
This. Not just 3step involved. There are others.
No link yet.
Lots to figure out still, but this is indeed the plan.

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There will be plenty of tournament options outside of USL.

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Well that’s interesting.

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Good news for the majority of the lax community!
It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade.
The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023.
Fake news
3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times
This. Not just 3step involved. There are others.
No link yet.
Lots to figure out still, but this is indeed the plan.

Get NLF on board and could work. Would benefit the NY clubs

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All those private clubs in Baltimore that require your son to have a USL number to tryout will likely have to comply. Or pay much, much, more for insurance elsewhere.

Good call and good move by USL. Glad they are stepping up.

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It will never happen. Should, but never will.

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People do realize that before things went grade based there will still plenty of kids/teams "cheating" The team my son played on in the old aged based Mpll(?) had 5-6 who would be considered holdbacks today and that was besides the 5 older kids you were allowed to have by league rules. This was u9. He was a 3rd grader and we would see 5th graders from our school on opposing clubs

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People will always cheat. The soccer system requires birth certificates to be uploaded to register.
USL can go that route.
OR USL can just continue to ask for birth date with registration. It's needed for the insurance requirements. If parents want to cheat, they can certainly provide the wrong birth date. But no insurance coverage if something happens.

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People will always cheat. The soccer system requires birth certificates to be uploaded to register.
USL can go that route.
OR USL can just continue to ask for birth date with registration. It's needed for the insurance requirements. If parents want to cheat, they can certainly provide the wrong birth date. But no insurance coverage if something happens.

So, simple answer is to require birth certificates for USL #s and require numbers for all to compete tournaments. I guess kind of like World Series and nationals?

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Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about

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Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about

Does it upset you Dads who held their son back to play against younger children since they couldnt compete against children their own age?

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Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game.

How wholesome.

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Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game.

How wholesome.

Holding a kid back in school because he's "immature" so he can be up to two years older than the competition.

How wholesome.

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Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game.

How wholesome.

Holding a kid back in school because he's "immature" so he can be up to two years older than the competition.

How wholesome.

Play sports on age. School is based other other criteria.

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All those private clubs in Baltimore that require your son to have a USL number to tryout will likely have to comply. Or pay much, much, more for insurance elsewhere.

Good call and good move by USL. Glad they are stepping up.

will have minimal impact. Will impact tourneys more than clubs. All this means is fewer tourneys will use USL insurance. (which few tourneys outside of MD/VA/PA use anyway.

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Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about

Does it upset you Dads who held their son back to play against younger children since they couldnt compete against children their own age?

Not at all. If you can’t make in 27 it’s really easy just re class as 28.

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Lol at least he is honest.

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All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works.

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Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better.

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All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works.

Such as sad thing to say . My kid couldn’t make it so I held him back to look better for college

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Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better.

Played up until they played down (re classed)

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Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better.

What a joke. Played up for years,,,Now that is funny. holdbacks/reclass/prefirst all play down and have for many years now. Its the Baltimore Private School Way.

The best is when a holdback or prefirst plays his age ( which is rare) and the parent proudly boasts he is playing up, LOL .. Of course all the on age players are donig what , playing down ?? LOL

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All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works.

Such as sad thing to say . My kid couldn’t make it so I held him back to look better for college

The holdbacks are the first to commit…a year or two later than they should have.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.

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Wouldn't surprise me. There are rare cases where this is a good idea, but so many people are doing it now from Long Island because it works. Have to keep up with the Maryland men.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.
Only way for CHC players to get that much coverage. Flashback to Class of 2020.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.

You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.

You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback.

There is only the occasional mythical double holdback in MIAA, But you do see them every once in awhile. The more common single holdback is rampant .

Most double holdbacks show up as PG at the many PG schools up north. There the many mystical double holdback PG competes with the single holdback.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.

You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback.

There is only the occasional mythical double holdback in MIAA, But you do see them every once in awhile. The more common single holdback is rampant .

Most double holdbacks show up as PG at the many PG schools up north. There the many mystical double holdback PG competes with the single holdback.
They end up at Img, hill and the other pgs

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All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works.

Well yeah, they had an extra year to think about it.

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Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023.

You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback.

What is the birthdate? That’s the determining factor.

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For 2023
Born Before 9/1/04 = holdback
Born before 9/1/03 = Double holdback

It’s pretty straightforward.

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Crickets

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Glad to hear this is being addressed. It’s really a competition and safety issue.
This is exactly what the sport needs.
Thank you USL for finally listening!

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Glad to hear this is being addressed. It’s really a competition and safety issue.
This is exactly what the sport needs.
Thank you USL for finally listening!
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