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Interesting pint. Will be interesting to see how the boys will fare individually away from mother turtle. I did hear one suggestion whispered that they may decide collectively to not play for their schools and just stay together and play for turtles year round. I'll believe it when I see it but that would be a shame if that is how it unfolds or if that eventually becomes a bigger trend generally.

heard that they added a couple of crabs as well...they were big fast and nasty...typical maryland players..they meet long island teams and start using physical size to compensate for lack of lax skills

I heard that rumor that they may follow the route of elite soccer, but also heard another rumor that they were instead going to collectively go to a HS in West Islip so they could all play.

Let me get this right...baiting lunatics on a thread about 8th graders makes me a turtle parent?...that team is probably laughing at all of this.

turtles beat both and the crabs in their own tournament

100% correct.

Is that why colleges are verbally committing to kids in 9th?

from areas that don't have lacrosse in public schools. Doesn't really matter, just making light of the 8th grade 10th grade mention and figured why leave the 9th grade out.

Is this true? I heard a goalie got a verbal commit in 9th grade. I thought they were not allowed to talk to them until 10th grade. I thought it was just a rumor.

Also realize the 9th graders who are committing are already over 6ft. They are not the typical 5'4 120# Freshman.
Forry Smith - 6-2 175lbs
Matt LeCompte (2015)6-2, 175-pound
Sam Offutt - 5-11, 165-pound
Mickey Fitzpatrick (2015)6-0 170-pound lefty

Many seem to actually wish this team ill will. I simply can't figure out why, but I also must point out that you come across insanely jealous for wishing failure upon a hard working crew. I'd rather improve by losing to them, than dodge 'em and hate 'em. GO LONG ISLAND TEAMS!

take 2'' and 20 lbs from each to get actual size - i bet

You are reading into something that isn't there. Nobody is wishing this team ill or wishing failure upon a hard working crew. Not sure where you got that from but its not the case.

just want everyone know that, most of these turtle kids are A and A(+) students from their own schools. They are student-athletes.
That is why this team is so special.
Not typical JOCKS!
Most will end up in IVY.

How can you possilby know their grades with any accuracy? They are special because they are great 8th grade lacrosse team players.

Really? Look back on threads...lots of & hating going on:(

My son goes to the same school as a few of the turtles and from what he can see, those boys are "ok" students but certainly not high honor roll kind of kids - in fact none of them are regularly seen on the actual high honor roll posted in the hall. He also says they are a little cocky and kind of stick to themselves. Hopefully they will mature in areas other than their stick skills.

You are reading into something that isn't there. Nobody is wishing this team ill or wishing failure upon a hard working crew. Not sure where you got that from but its not the case. [/quote]

Really? Look back on threads...lots of & hating going on:( [/quote]

The only reason that anybody would not root for the Turtles is if they were arrogant and classless winners - which from everything I've heard and seen from a distance is definately not the case. This is a very humble, classy group of kids that knows how to win in a way that respects their opponents and more importantly spirit of the game. And that comes right from the top with classy leadership that has developed a model that should be emulated by everybody. First class all the way.

get a life.

When every parent would love to have their son play on the team it is envy and respect that you are picking up on, not "hating".

New topic (revisited) to break the chain of insanity here.

What to do when your "town team" parents resent that your kid plays on one of the club teams that can literally wipe the town team off of the field?

Resentment can be in the forms of, but not limited to:

-Shunning at other sporting events
-Looks of contempt given your kid by other parents when associating with his town friends
-attempt by "townies" to bad mouth said club kid to HS coaches and town teammates.

Any other similar experiences out there? Sad but true.

Really? Look back on threads...lots of & hating going on:( [/quote]

The only reason that anybody would not root for the Turtles is if they were arrogant and classless winners - which from everything I've heard and seen from a distance is definately not the case. This is a very humble, classy group of kids that knows how to win in a way that respects their opponents and more importantly spirit of the game. And that comes right from the top with classy leadership that has developed a model that should be emulated by everybody. First class all the way. [/quote]

In the 70's SNL had a skit called "the Bizarro Planet" where everything is opposite. This last post seems right off of the script.

"Envy" & "Respect" but not "Hate"? Where is that "Lax Daddy" with his vocab app?

scrambled brains- you been playin without a helmet?

Every player/child has the opportunity to advance their game, whether they choose to do so is entirely up to them. There is a big committment to a club team, and as a parent of a player who has done both for years, I applaud any player who committs to both - TEAM FIRST!! Our experience has been positive with parents and players alike from our town team. We get many questions about the process and some players in our community have even joined different travel teams. The real issues arrise during their HS years when club team tournments conflict with school team tournaments, thats when parents and other players get a little weird. Being humble goes a long way, nobody likes a player who thinks they are better than others, but everyone has the opportunity to improve. Good luck

Some town teams won't let a club player play for both. Then what is the solution? Play for the inferior town team or risk being placed in the town stockade for playing on a club team?

It's actually a well trained brain app....prone to coming of the wheels at times and stirring pots for no known reason. Schizo probably...

What's your definition of "lax daddy"?

Oh, Lord. PLEASE no more definitions!

I don't know of any PAL coaches that would tell their players they can't tryout for club teams, practices and games don't conflict, but then there is those Three Villagers they don't like it when their players go outside the league, but they have an outstanding program

We are all lax daddy's.

You don't know enough coaches in that case. Call around. You' be surprised.

Too bad this is the case, as the town teams don't recognize that the club players are gaining valuable advanced experience that they could impart to their town school teams when they play for them.

The entire Three Village program does not allow any player that plays for a club team be a part of the PAL program. The boys that put lacrosse first over other sports are then kicked out of the PAL program. They should keep up with the evolving lacrosse world. Unfortunately, their program is not as competitive anymore and their travel teams can no longer compete in the top tournaments. This hurts the 3V boys in the program because then they are not used to playing at that fast paced level. Then the town wonders why we can't win a county championship. Just let them all play. Cage Sage, can you check the position of the PAL directors? Curious if they know boys are being excluded.

So, better and more committed players move to elite programs and away from the "intramural" PAL program - and this is a problem, how? This is what is supposed to happen where better players move to find better competition and training. Exactly why is it the responsibility of better players to help the remaining Three Village players play at a faster pace?

Is this question really restated as "The better players leave and the teams remaining do not win - and I want the better players to stay so that the weaker players can say that they won something"?

Seems to me that this is a personal issue.

If you have a child being impacted, call the club and get the details. If you are unhappy with the answers, send us an e-mail to cagesage@backofthecage.com with all of the details and we will check out the issue. If worthy of coverage, it will be brought into the clear.

Meanwhile, BOTC is not in the business of club investigations assigned to us from anonymous posters.

Another thought on this subject : Ten to twelve year old boys are the same regardless of the sport - they will play the game with boys that they believe are of equal or better ability. That said, the problem of mixing better players with weaker players is that come game time, only the better players will actually touch the ball. Generally, they will not pass the ball to a player who is no better than 50/50 to catch the pass much less return an accurate throw.

The problem is not at game time and with the results - the problem is in the effort at practices and the resulting ability that comes onto the playing field. The axiom of sports achievement is quite simple : Practice builds better field play - not the other way around.

Outstanding observation and comment. Spoken as a true Sage. I applaud your accuracy and the tearing down of the walls of progressive insecurity and propaganda.

Interesting tournament on Monday, January 21st with six local teams taking to the indoor fields at Long Island Sports Hub : 2017 Terps, 2017 Jesters, Predators, 2017 Piranhas, 2018 Terps, and Team Long Island. Tournament schedules follow.


Home Away Time/Status
2017 Jesters v 2017 Terps 8:00 AM
2017 Piranha v 2018 Terps 8:50 AM
Predators v 2017 Jesters 9:40 AM
2018 Terps v Team LI 10:30 AM
Predators v 2017 Terps 11:20 AM
Team LI v 2017 Piranha 12:10 PM
Consolation v Consolation 1:00 PM
1st Bracket One v 2nd Bracket Two 1:50 PM
1st Bracket Two v 2nd Bracket One 2:40 PM
Championship v Championship 3:30 PM

Its the first time for the Predators to play together. They are mostly from Bronxville and Rye. Good luck everyone. Which is the Express A team - Terps or Piranahs? Is it the same for both 2017 and 2018?