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Re: Nassau PAL vs Suffolk PAL
Anonymous #23977 01/13/13 01:50 PM
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that is how you are supposed to divide teams for nassau pal. if you have more than 1 town team at an age group split them as evenly as possible .


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that is how you are supposed to divide teams for nassau pal. if you have more than 1 town team at an age group split them as evenly as possible .

Not in 5th and 6th grade. Thankfully, last year PAL started to allow towns to have "a" and "b" teams in these grade levels.

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that is how you are supposed to divide teams for nassau pal. if you have more than 1 town team at an age group split them as evenly as possible .

Not in 5th and 6th grade. Thankfully, last year PAL started to allow towns to have "a" and "b" teams in these grade levels.


Didn't suffolk PAL have A,B,C divisions last year?

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Is it possible for a town to have two equally divided teams and play them in a lower conference as opposed to creating an A and B team. This is in regrd to a 5th grade program. Our directors don't want to have evaluations and deal with the politics of picking who is on the A or B team so they will have two mixed level teams which benefits no one. The better players cannot learn advanced level plays because there aren't enough good players per team to do it and the players who need to focus on developing the fundamentals don't get the support they need. No win siuation

I agree with your opinion. It does not benefit a player that needs more development or is just starting out, to play with advanced players by the time you are in 5th grade.
Even if the coach has good intentions, the more advanced players will pass the ball to other advanced kids. These developing kids need touches to grow as a player. If they play with and against players that are in a similar stage of development, they will actually be involved. In addition, the kids that are further along in their development, will be properly challenged by playing against similar players.
That being said, typically there are 3 or 4 divisions in 5th grade PAL. Last year there were 4. They were called A,1,2 and 3. I would think division 2 could be appropriate to your group.

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the PAL "rule" about even teams is making the league obsolete. There is a reason all these for profit clubs are successful fielding 2nd and 3rd grade teams. its become a playdate

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the PAL "rule" about even teams is making the league obsolete. There is a reason all these for profit clubs are successful fielding 2nd and 3rd grade teams. its become a playdate

PAL finally changed the "rule" for 5th and 6th grade. The A division will give a team 8 or 9 games against other top town teams.

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the PAL "rule" about even teams is making the league obsolete. There is a reason all these for profit clubs are successful fielding 2nd and 3rd grade teams. its become a playdate

PAL finally changed the "rule" for 5th and 6th grade. The A division will give a team 8 or 9 games against other top town teams.

That being said, if your kid plays on a club team and is better than average, playing in a town that fields 3-4 even teams is extremely counter productive. These are the same towns that field middle school teams with 30-40 kids which will be the next team kids will stop playing on.

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Anonymous #24001 01/14/13 12:49 AM
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the PAL "rule" about even teams is making the league obsolete. There is a reason all these for profit clubs are successful fielding 2nd and 3rd grade teams. its become a playdate

PAL finally changed the "rule" for 5th and 6th grade. The A division will give a team 8 or 9 games against other top town teams.


When will Nassau and Suffolk play against each other. Please get together and mix some games across the 110 line. Create a and b and cross county's and that gives a great outlet for the game on LI to grow.

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the PAL "rule" about even teams is making the league obsolete. There is a reason all these for profit clubs are successful fielding 2nd and 3rd grade teams. its become a playdate

PAL finally changed the "rule" for 5th and 6th grade. The A division will give a team 8 or 9 games against other top town teams.


Did Nassau ever look into if 3v blackballed kids.

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With kids starting at such a young age and all these travel programs and training at such a young age . They should implement it in all divisions where kids of like talent play together it is beneficial to all kids at all levels . THE PARENTS ARE THE PROBLEM . if you split teams evenly and there are 4 or 5 good lax players on each team those 4 or 5 will dominate the game . New or less skilled boys will get limited if no touchs . When you split teams based on skill at any level (2,3,4,5,6, grade) everyone is challenged . Think about that . Do not and can not figure out why at any level you would put a boy who never played before with a boy who has ben playing for a couple of years and plays 9-10 months out of the year . Sounds foolish. Can someone give me reason why they still do this ? Think about practice they tell you coach to the middle well with even split teams the top and the bottom are so far apart . It make it extremely difficult on the coach as well . THE PROBLEM IS PARENTS NOT KIDS .

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Top teams at 2nd and 3rd Grade you got to be kidding me.
Anything to help parents live there own failures through their
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Top teams at 2nd and 3rd Grade you got to be kidding me.
Anything to help parents live there own failures through their
kids


Enough with the parents trying to live through their kids, pleases, stop using this as a cop out.

That being said, if your child wants to learn any sport know what is the best method for your child to learn a sport. and dont forget you are the parent and get out there and play with them.

If you have been around the youth sports arena you will see in this day and age there is a big division of talent starting as low as 2nd 3rd grade level.

More times than not, it isnt fair to the child, coaches, and yes parents (those who spend their time and money) if you do not split players by talent. Split them so they can learn and grow. Just as long as they are challenged and fairly measured each year with fair and open communication.

But if you are new to this it could be disheartening, just continually being honest with yourself, know where your child's abilities are and help them grow within the sport and dont put the sole responsibility on the shoulders of a coach/organization.

If you do that, you will not put your child our yourself into a "situation" and will maintain a healthy relationship within the sport for your child and yourself. A relationship which can foster many benefits beyond the sporting fields.


If you are new many towns and organizations have clinics and camps, I'd recomend them as your first experience into LI YOUTH LAX.

If you are not new, to this, please stop saying people are living through their kids.

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Very well put

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Top teams at 2nd and 3rd Grade you got to be kidding me.
Anything to help parents live there own failures through their
kids


Enough with the parents trying to live through their kids, pleases, stop using this as a cop out.

That being said, if your child wants to learn any sport know what is the best method for your child to learn a sport. and dont forget you are the parent and get out there and play with them.

If you have been around the youth sports arena you will see in this day and age there is a big division of talent starting as low as 2nd 3rd grade level.

More times than not, it isnt fair to the child, coaches, and yes parents (those who spend their time and money) if you do not split players by talent. Split them so they can learn and grow. Just as long as they are challenged and fairly measured each year with fair and open communication.

But if you are new to this it could be disheartening, just continually being honest with yourself, know where your child's abilities are and help them grow within the sport and dont put the sole responsibility on the shoulders of a coach/organization.

If you do that, you will not put your child our yourself into a "situation" and will maintain a healthy relationship within the sport for your child and yourself. A relationship which can foster many benefits beyond the sporting fields.


If you are new many towns and organizations have clinics and camps, I'd recomend them as your first experience into LI YOUTH LAX.

If you are not new, to this, please stop saying people are living through their kids.



Get over yourself , there are so many kids who haven't even picked up a lacrosse stick yet who will be better than your kid in 2-3 years.

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Anonymous #24055 01/15/13 10:03 AM
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I have been hearing this for years...everyone says it, there are new kids that havent even picked up a stick that will be better than everyone in 10th grade.

the truth is, those special kids are far and few between. other than timing for growth spurts, I havent seen a new kid playing in competitive lax since mine was in 7th grade. Now in 10th and there are no new additions. the truth is that the kids that were fast and good athletes when they were in third grade are the same ones that look good now...



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