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does anyone know if the 2020 coaches are returning for next year? Thanks in advance

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You got that right!!!

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[quote=Anonymous]does anyone know if the 2020 coaches are returning for next year? Thanks in advance[/quote

What's the difference?

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a .20% award at $63k Syracuse is still $50,500 per year! Yikes! $200k for an undergrad degree


Welcome to 2017 and any private college!


Send your kid to Binghampton for $20,000 for a better education. lax is weaker but who cares neither is winning a naty championship



Where are you getting your info from? Syracuse is a way better education! It's a private school. All the best lax schools are private. Duke , Maryland, Penn State, UNC etc etc

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Maryland, UNC Penn State are all public schools. Also, Binghampton is ranked higher than Syracuse.

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Maryland, UNC Penn State are all public schools. Also, Binghampton is ranked higher than Syracuse.


Also no "p" in in Binghamton.

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a .20% award at $63k Syracuse is still $50,500 per year! Yikes! $200k for an undergrad degree


Welcome to 2017 and any private college!


Send your kid to Binghampton for $20,000 for a better education. lax is weaker but who cares neither is winning a naty championship



Where are you getting your info from? Syracuse is a way better education! It's a private school. All the best lax schools are private. Duke , Maryland, Penn State, UNC etc etc


WOW

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a .20% award at $63k Syracuse is still $50,500 per year! Yikes! $200k for an undergrad degree


Welcome to 2017 and any private college!


Send your kid to Binghampton for $20,000 for a better education. lax is weaker but who cares neither is winning a naty championship



Where are you getting your info from? Syracuse is a way better education! It's a private school. All the best lax schools are private. Duke , Maryland, Penn State, UNC etc etc


WOW

What's the best combination of top academics and a program with true Natty Champ opportunity? Hasn't been last few years but maybe Northwestern? Princeton??

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Maryland, UNC Penn State are all public schools. Also, Binghampton is ranked higher than Syracuse.


Ranked higher ? Have not looked but that's doubtful .

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a .20% award at $63k Syracuse is still $50,500 per year! Yikes! $200k for an undergrad degree


Welcome to 2017 and any private college!


Send your kid to Binghampton for $20,000 for a better education. lax is weaker but who cares neither is winning a naty championship



Where are you getting your info from? Syracuse is a way better education! It's a private school. All the best lax schools are private. Duke , Maryland, Penn State, UNC etc etc


WOW

What's the best combination of top academics and a program with true Natty Champ opportunity? Hasn't been last few years but maybe Northwestern? Princeton??


No shot

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Maryland, UNC Penn State are all public schools. Also, Binghampton is ranked higher than Syracuse.


Ranked higher ? Have not looked but that's doubtful .


Forbes has them higher. But what do they know. I'm sure the intellects on here know more.
But who cares about that Go Orange!!!!!

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What's the best combination of top academics and a program with true Natty Champ opportunity? Hasn't been last few years but maybe Northwestern? Princeton??[/quote]

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Syracuse is a public? Geesh do some homework people! Just check out collegeboard-

Binghamton costs $23k with an Average Required SAT score of 1325 with 75% of kids having a 3.8gpa in HS
Syracuse costs $63k with an Average Required SAT score of 1190
The difference between 1190 to 1325 is like from here to the moon.
Syracuse is always a top lacrosse school but the academics aren't even close
Not arguing against Syracuse but Binghamton is really tough these days

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Syracuse is a public? Geesh do some homework people! Just check out collegeboard-

Binghamton costs $23k with an Average Required SAT score of 1325 with 75% of kids having a 3.8gpa in HS
Syracuse costs $63k with an Average Required SAT score of 1190
The difference between 1190 to 1325 is like from here to the moon.
Syracuse is always a top lacrosse school but the academics aren't even close
Not arguing against Syracuse but Binghamton is really tough these days


There is no comparison between a Binghamton and Syracuse education. You will be shelling out a lot more more money for a sub-par education at Syracuse. You will also be playing for Dopy Desko who will never win a national championship going forward.

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why everyone hating on Cuse?

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And yet the more respected usnews has cuse ranked higher than Binghamton .

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And yet the more respected usnews has cuse ranked higher than Binghamton .


This is still about lacrosse. The question wan't what school is better. The question was , Is it better to get a books scholarship at cuse and not get much or any playing time or go to a good in state school and play on a weaker lax team? I think that most parents will lean toward cuse. It just sounds a lot better to their friends and family. F & F seems to be a recurring theme. Did you play 6 years of yellowjackets to go to a state school??

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!

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And yet the more respected usnews has cuse ranked higher than Binghamton .


This is still about lacrosse. The question wan't what school is better. The question was , Is it better to get a books scholarship at cuse and not get much or any playing time or go to a good in state school and play on a weaker lax team? I think that most parents will lean toward cuse. It just sounds a lot better to their friends and family. F & F seems to be a recurring theme. Did you play 6 years of yellowjackets to go to a state school??


LOL. Now a I know where they came from.
In Maryland we have no problems with playing 6 years of club lacrosse and sending our girls to state schools or God forbid public colleges. Isn't Annapolis and West Point considered public? And last time I checked UNC and Virginia were public. I think that orange V is also nice van swag. Although not as coveted here in Maryland as the red M.


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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!


What about if you replace the S of Syracuse with the S of Stanford, or the P of Princeton or the N of Northwestern, or the D of Duke? Now to me that no money, possibly sit the bench makes a lot more sense. Not saying that is the right decision for everyone, but if your kid is a good student, and lax can help her get into one of those academic schools, that is a very good outcome in my book.

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!


What about if you replace the S of Syracuse with the S of Stanford, or the P of Princeton or the N of Northwestern, or the D of Duke? Now to me that no money, possibly sit the bench makes a lot more sense. Not saying that is the right decision for everyone, but if your kid is a good student, and lax can help her get into one of those academic schools, that is a very good outcome in my book.


Agree completely! Would love my kid to get the degree of her choosing at one of those schools even if she never saw the field. Syracuse is closer to Oneonta than any of the top schools you mentioned

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


70% fail rate on most recruits, so every coach knows they're rolling the dice and hoping to get 3-4 impact players in each class

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


Whats he carrying 50 this year? with 25 getting no cash?

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


70% fail rate on most recruits, so every coach knows they're rolling the dice and hoping to get 3-4 impact players in each class


that's why so few kids get big dollars or the full rides (hehe) all you talk about

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Binghamton ranked 86 among national universities. Not bad, not great. They rank 135 with graduate school placement. Not nearly as good as cuse which ranked 75 with graduate school placement. In todays times--graduate school is where it's at. Give me the school that gets me into grad school every time.

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


70% fail rate on most recruits, so every coach knows they're rolling the dice and hoping to get 3-4 impact players in each class


that's why so few kids get big dollars or the full rides (hehe) all you talk about


Just curious what you "barely anyone gets any money /my kid got nothing so no way any other kid got much more " people consider big dollars in terms of percentage of cost of attendance.

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


70% fail rate on most recruits, so every coach knows they're rolling the dice and hoping to get 3-4 impact players in each class


I have no way of knowing if statistically your percentage is correct but don't you think the new recruiting change should see that number go the other way? Would absolutely agree coaches are rolling the dice in seventh, eighth and maybe ninth grade but now allowing these girls to physically develop and seeing them fully grown and on the field in 11th grade takes a lot of the guesswork out.

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How much does YJ cost for a year?

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


70% fail rate on most recruits, so every coach knows they're rolling the dice and hoping to get 3-4 impact players in each class


I have no way of knowing if statistically your percentage is correct but don't you think the new recruiting change should see that number go the other way? Would absolutely agree coaches are rolling the dice in seventh, eighth and maybe ninth grade but now allowing these girls to physically develop and seeing them fully grown and on the field in 11th grade takes a lot of the guesswork out.



The 70% fail also takes into account transfers but I agree with you that signing 11th graders gives a much more realistic look at what the player will be in college. Many 7th and 8th graders in our town are back in the pack by 11th and 12th that's why the "full ride talk" on here is usually a joke. Coaches at fully funded programs usually only have 2.5 - 3.0 to give per year allowing for a little hold back. 2.5 divided by 8 players per year is a .30 award on average. Since most of the better privates are $55,000 or more that's only a $16,000 award or $40,000 in full

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



If Gary Gait thinks she can play who are you to say she can't. Why would he take players that he thinks have no shot.


Whats he carrying 50 this year? with 25 getting no cash?



never mind the cash... 20-25 girls on that team don't travel to away games..you get to practice all week and then wave goodbye as the bus pulls out.

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How much does YJ cost for a year?


about $1500

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Mine was little of 1600 for registration and 5 tourneys

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Plus fall tournaments, plus clinics, plus camp, plus winter, plus bbq, plus privates, plus swag

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All optional. Every other club does it. Liberty you pay all up front

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All optional. Every other club does it. Liberty you pay all up front
if you ever want to make the elite F&F group its not optional

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New to lax travel teams...

So post-tryouts : I noticed TG's 1st payment is due by sep 15. YJ tryouts aren't until late October. We are looking at several teams with some looking more reasonable with a payment due once one commits to a team.

Seriously now, assuming my kid makes TG, I guess the first test for SS is if she will wait for us to tryout out for YJ.

Are payments refundable? Sadly, I think I know the answers to all of the above. [ stir, stir ]

[posting this on TG too]

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New to lax travel teams...

So post-tryouts : I noticed TG's 1st payment is due by sep 15. YJ tryouts aren't until late October. We are looking at several teams with some looking more reasonable with a payment due once one commits to a team.

Seriously now, assuming my kid makes TG, I guess the first test for SS is if she will wait for us to tryout out for YJ.

Are payments refundable? Sadly, I think I know the answers to all of the above. [ stir, stir ]

[posting this on TG too]


See TG!

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All optional. Every other club does it. Liberty you pay all up front


Go look on the Liberty website in the tryouts section and you will see that there are four instalments in the payment plan which go through the spring

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And unfortunately there you have todays lacrosse club parent "Did you play 6 years of YJ's to go to a state school?" I would say yeah on a couple of fronts- Better education at Binghamton, better playing odds, lower cost with or without athletic money, smaller roster plus my kid isn't the next Shannon.

I believe it should be about the education and if the lacrosse fits even better but many will send their kids almost anywhere at any cost just to play lacrosse.

for todays LI club parent I will concede the YJ bumper sticker and the Syracuse S bumper sticker are two of the best and most highly recognizable in the sport so if that is what you are paying for dad, go for it!



Shannon Who??

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