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Re: Boys 2021 - 9th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018
TM@BOTC #237204 08/15/17 12:12 PM
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Tide 2017 was a great team. Same philosophy same coaches for 2021. Kids from express, fl$, igloo and other programs jumping to Tide. Why would anyone spend thousands of dollars for programs that are not helping your kids get better? Remember the program names are on the helmet and uniform. It's about them not about your kid. It's about marketing and dollars. They could care less about your kid. At Tide, you wear your high school helmet. That's what the college coaches want to see. This may come as a shock but many college coaches don't trust the clubs - a club coach will lie to a college coach with no fallout. They will always get kids to sign up and pay the freight. If a high school coach lies about a kid's ability he or she is done. A college coach won't be back to that high school to recruit. Also freshman year in high school is a big turnover year in clubs- what a kid did in grades 2-8 may no longer be that relevant -- growth, speed, and strength begin to kick in at age 14.

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Re: Boys 2021 - 9th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018
Anonymous #237211 08/15/17 12:38 PM
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Tide 2.0 is almost full. I heard that there are 2021 spots open. Team is going to be the real deal.

I just don't understand how they could compete. Unless there are some crazy good players out there who haven't been at the other tryouts that we haven't seen yet, or players are leaving the other top teams, this team may be good, but real deal? My kid is on a great B team, and I wouldn't take the chance of him moving over.

My kid is in a very good D1 school right now, 3 other kids from long island are on team with him. all 4 of them where on B team with express in 8th grade.

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Thank you Tide Owner for that pitch!

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I get tired of all this AA, A, B, etc, stuff as well, but there is a point to it.

There are only 15-20 teams in the country that probably deserve to be called "AA" teams. All very athletic, fast, highly skilled, big, older and they can really move the ball to attack the backside. You don't have to be ashamed if your son's team is on age, not everyone's hit puberty or not everyone has the athleticism to play in college. You can have a solid "A" team of kids who are going to be strong JV or even varsity players over the next 4 years, who are learning and getting better and having fun, who are winning non-elite tournaments and who need to improve on swinging the ball around to get hockey assists or always nailing the 3rd slide. That A team is going to lose 8-2 against a AA team on a good day (and at least make the AA team break a sweat) or 15-2 on a bad day, but that's OK.

Likewise, there are tons of B teams around the country that can't compete with solid A teams on the scoreboard, but who are getting good coaching and the kids have been improving much more over the last few years than they would have had just playing rec league or will sitting on the bench of a non-hotbed varsity team.

It makes a lot of sense to understand where a team stands and for that team to go to the best tournaments to challenge themselves to get better, and not necessarily get slaughtered by higher-level teams or, in turn, slaughter lower-level teams. Maybe a mix of some "stretch" tournaments and some winnable tournaments. My kid's team had 17 competitive tournament games this Summer and 4 blowouts (in either direction, and even blowouts are good for teaching kids to be good sports, play in a different position or be able to show your kids how a higher level team moves the ball in the air, etc.)


Thank you - it's like the AA teams are protecting their country club or polo club from anyone getting near it. They totally don't get it!

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Anonymous #237231 08/15/17 01:15 PM
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Thank you Tide Owner for that pitch!

First of all Tide is a non profit club, I say it because tide and Kevin, was the best thing that happened for my boy. Build his confidence, played a lot, fun group of kids and parents.
Please just stay on your B team. You sound like a little [lacrosse].

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TM@BOTC #237234 08/15/17 01:23 PM
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Not Tide owner. It is easy to dismiss or mock people when they tell you what you don't want to hear. Or you have drank so much club kool aid that you think its real and your kid is going to get recruited because he plays for one of the other clubs? Dude get real and think about you kid - not about what club you can tell your friends he or she plays for.

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I get tired of all this AA, A, B, etc, stuff as well, but there is a point to it.

There are only 15-20 teams in the country that probably deserve to be called "AA" teams. All very athletic, fast, highly skilled, big, older and they can really move the ball to attack the backside. You don't have to be ashamed if your son's team is on age, not everyone's hit puberty or not everyone has the athleticism to play in college. You can have a solid "A" team of kids who are going to be strong JV or even varsity players over the next 4 years, who are learning and getting better and having fun, who are winning non-elite tournaments and who need to improve on swinging the ball around to get hockey assists or always nailing the 3rd slide. That A team is going to lose 8-2 against a AA team on a good day (and at least make the AA team break a sweat) or 15-2 on a bad day, but that's OK.

Likewise, there are tons of B teams around the country that can't compete with solid A teams on the scoreboard, but who are getting good coaching and the kids have been improving much more over the last few years than they would have had just playing rec league or will sitting on the bench of a non-hotbed varsity team.

It makes a lot of sense to understand where a team stands and for that team to go to the best tournaments to challenge themselves to get better, and not necessarily get slaughtered by higher-level teams or, in turn, slaughter lower-level teams. Maybe a mix of some "stretch" tournaments and some winnable tournaments. My kid's team had 17 competitive tournament games this Summer and 4 blowouts (in either direction, and even blowouts are good for teaching kids to be good sports, play in a different position or be able to show your kids how a higher level team moves the ball in the air, etc.)


This is a very good post. Know who your kids is, find the club/team that matches that while providing a challenge for him. All the rest is politics and marketing/hype.

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Anonymous #237267 08/15/17 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I get tired of all this AA, A, B, etc, stuff as well, but there is a point to it.

There are only 15-20 teams in the country that probably deserve to be called "AA" teams. All very athletic, fast, highly skilled, big, older and they can really move the ball to attack the backside. You don't have to be ashamed if your son's team is on age, not everyone's hit puberty or not everyone has the athleticism to play in college. You can have a solid "A" team of kids who are going to be strong JV or even varsity players over the next 4 years, who are learning and getting better and having fun, who are winning non-elite tournaments and who need to improve on swinging the ball around to get hockey assists or always nailing the 3rd slide. That A team is going to lose 8-2 against a AA team on a good day (and at least make the AA team break a sweat) or 15-2 on a bad day, but that's OK.

Likewise, there are tons of B teams around the country that can't compete with solid A teams on the scoreboard, but who are getting good coaching and the kids have been improving much more over the last few years than they would have had just playing rec league or will sitting on the bench of a non-hotbed varsity team.

It makes a lot of sense to understand where a team stands and for that team to go to the best tournaments to challenge themselves to get better, and not necessarily get slaughtered by higher-level teams or, in turn, slaughter lower-level teams. Maybe a mix of some "stretch" tournaments and some winnable tournaments. My kid's team had 17 competitive tournament games this Summer and 4 blowouts (in either direction, and even blowouts are good for teaching kids to be good sports, play in a different position or be able to show your kids how a higher level team moves the ball in the air, etc.)


This is a very good post. Know who your kids is, find the club/team that matches that while providing a challenge for him. All the rest is politics and marketing/hype.


That was my point - a proper tiering system would make all of that easier, both from the club and parent/player's perspective!

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then dont tier the teams they change every year. Tier the tournaments

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
then dont tier the teams they change every year. Tier the tournaments



You can't have one without the other - it's up to a club/coach to accurately tier his team. But you do need tourneys to be tiered properly to allow an honest/realistic coach to know what tourneys are appropriate.

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Re: Boys 2021 - 9th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018
Icecoldlax #237477 08/16/17 11:38 AM
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Hahahahahahahahah what a joke

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Anonymous #237513 08/16/17 01:02 PM
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Is this the answer to why Tide will be good winning team this year? As you stated in a prior post Tide has been gone for a while so you may need an update. You claim Tide was great long ago. No reason not to believe you. Since then FL and gee has not had a good team, The 2021 Nassau team kept all the best players and Suffolk was a C team. Everyone makes Express top team who complains enough and the B team is really a C team and you took no players from Igloos top team. Most likely you have a bunch of B and C level players. That is fine but don't come on here stating how good the team will be and base it on taking players from these programs. Doing that may lead people to think you don't know what you are talking about which is a reflection of the club.

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Tide 2017 was a great team. Same philosophy same coaches for 2021. Kids from express, fl$, igloo and other programs jumping to Tide. Why would anyone spend thousands of dollars for programs that are not helping your kids get better? Remember the program names are on the helmet and uniform. It's about them not about your kid. It's about marketing and dollars. They could care less about your kid. At Tide, you wear your high school helmet. That's what the college coaches want to see. This may come as a shock but many college coaches don't trust the clubs - a club coach will lie to a college coach with no fallout. They will always get kids to sign up and pay the freight. If a high school coach lies about a kid's ability he or she is done. A college coach won't be back to that high school to recruit. Also freshman year in high school is a big turnover year in clubs- what a kid did in grades 2-8 may no longer be that relevant -- growth, speed, and strength begin to kick in at age 14.


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Anonymous #237522 08/16/17 01:26 PM
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Hahahahahahahahah what a joke


The biggest joke is that you still can't comprehend what the "Quote" button is for, and no one but you knows what you are talking about . . .

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Anonymous #237527 08/16/17 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Thank you Tide Owner for that pitch!

First of all Tide is a non profit club, I say it because tide and Kevin, was the best thing that happened for my boy. Build his confidence, played a lot, fun group of kids and parents.
Please just stay on your B team. You sound like a little [lacrosse].


Non-profit does not mean people don't get paid.

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