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Will the YJ have a 3rd team for next season?

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Looking for some real info.. not fake news or sarcasm please...
What do each of the LI clubs charge for tryouts and tuition?
Specifically Liberty, TG, YJ, Elevate, Jesters, Igloo, Legacy?
I wouid like to think this site is good for something other than sillines. Thank you in advance to those who can give some true info!

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Elite was the only Maryland team that went to the National Championship this year. It'll be interesting to see which Maryland teams go next year to Delaware.

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While that is expensive for a tryout, they post exactly what you get and exactly what it costs on their home page. Which is more than I can say for most clubs. It's exhausting trying to find out how much clubs charge before you waste money trying out. I wish they'd all just post what you get and for how much!

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Not expensive. All relative. Most deduct try out fee from tuition dues.

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Will the YJ have a 3rd team for next season?


They will be lucky to have one team after all the good girls disperse to TG and Igloo. If I was a bottom tier player on either one of those teams, I'd be worried!

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Elite was the only Maryland team that went to the National Championship this year. It'll be interesting to see which Maryland teams go next year to Delaware.

Not many, they have birth certificate issues.

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The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.

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The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.


Those are all valid points. Now, since people are finally in agreement that there are several competitive teams in this age group, how about we have these teams start scrimmaging on a regular basis instead of training on there own. That would be huge in getting all the girls better. That's what they do in MD

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LOL. Because it's about the club directors ego's not the kids getting better.

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[quote=Anonymous]The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.


Those are all valid points. Now, since people are finally in agreement that there are several competitive teams in this age group, how about we have these teams start scrimmaging on a regular basis instead of training on there own. That would be huge in getting all the girls better. That's what they do in MD


In theory it would be a great to see all of these teams playing against each other, developing and not having to travel but in reality it will never happen. Poaching of players is very real and the above listed clubs are terrified of losing their top players to another club. After the YJ/TG game it was interesting to see the parents of the two clubs mingling as the directors of the clubs stood by to watch.

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The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.


You are obviously part of the friends and family clown show! You keep spouting off about the one goal differential where anybody could see why YJA is quickly slipping off into the abyss. Those girls are receiving absolutely no coaching or development and the slide will continue unless drastic measures are taken. Anyone who watched the TG game could clearly see the lack of coaching, case in point TG went into a stall and one girl literally stood in place for minutes while nobody pressured the ball and not one peep from the sideline. Coaching staff looked like they had zero interest in the last half of that game. The talent is there unfortunately the girls won't benefit. Next summer the team will slip further because reality is nothing will be done and the girls that need to be moved down won't, better players who should see the field more won't and parents will continue to put up with this nonsense because it's oh so important to be part of yellow jacket blue.

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[quote=Anonymous]The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.

Very generous ranking of the YJB as the 4th top team. I'm sure Leg, Jesters, Elevate and Liberty would all disagree.

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How is the girls 2023 Team 90+1? Saw them in a few tourneys this summer? Coaching any good?

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[quote=Anonymous]How is the girls 2023 Team 90+1? Saw them in a few tourneys this summer? Coaching any good?

Not that good. The rumor is that team has a bunch of girls leaving for other clubs.

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You are making it seem that Igloo is unbeatable, They have 1 exceptional kid and a few other talented players. TG beat them and also lost to them. Plus igloo has not traveled to big tourneys to play NJ and MD top teams

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I have been reading all these threads and the one thing I never see or hear about are the goalies for these teams. Of all these Long Island teams, does one team have better goalies than the other?

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How is the girls 2023 Team 90+1? Saw them in a few tourneys this summer? Coaching any good?


Not sure but they brought in a new girls director who is all in. She's been at practices for a bunch of teams and looks to be evaluating the coaching.

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Does not that good mean they are terrible or just not in the elite category?

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You are making it seem that Igloo is unbeatable, They have 1 exceptional kid and a few other talented players. TG beat them and also lost to them. Plus igloo has not traveled to big tourneys to play NJ and MD top teams


Yeah, that is funny. So the usual balance would be YJ at any age group would attrack 6-8 of the top 10 kids on the island. Now you have them spread out with 2-4 on several different teams. This is why LI can't compete with MD teams at this age group. I saw all three of these teams play this weekend and not one of them has a full strong line up. All had multiple glaring holes, even on the starting lines. I like the idea of balance and options of multiple clubs, but it is at the expense of Long Island lax representing. You all should get together and pick one club and all go there, starting to get embarrassing for LI.

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You are making it seem that Igloo is unbeatable, They have 1 exceptional kid and a few other talented players. TG beat them and also lost to them. Plus igloo has not traveled to big tourneys to play NJ and MD top teams


Yeah, that is funny. So the usual balance would be YJ at any age group would attrack 6-8 of the top 10 kids on the island. Now you have them spread out with 2-4 on several different teams. This is why LI can't compete with MD teams at this age group. I saw all three of these teams play this weekend and not one of them has a full strong line up. All had multiple glaring holes, even on the starting lines. I like the idea of balance and options of multiple clubs, but it is at the expense of Long Island lax representing. You all should get together and pick one club and all go there, starting to get embarrassing for LI.

1 exceptional kid, just like YJ 2023 "A" team

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Coach is great. Taking her daughter to another program to be on age level. She is a 24. Team was very solid. Not igloo or top gun or others at the top but they were competitive. I think the coach leaving will split the team up.

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That is a shame, the team seemed to be very unselfish but did not have the elite team members.

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Who?

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Anyone with any sense of business or marketing would say "you're damn right!" You might prefer the taste of RC Cola but it will Never get the recognition or success of Coke or Pepsi. Fact. If you want to debate that it doesn't matter and showcases are everything, you have zero sense of business or marketing. And if your only goal is college recruiting, it is agreed...you better learn to market in addition to your club. If your goal is to have your daughter play with the top girls in their age, you play for a top club. If the goal is to be part of a fair team where everyone gets equal time and all get a participation ribbon, play somewhere else!

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[quote=Anonymous]You are making it seem that Igloo is unbeatable, They have 1 exceptional kid and a few other talented players. TG beat them and also lost to them. Plus igloo has not traveled to big tourneys to play NJ and MD top teams


Yeah, that is funny. So the usual balance would be YJ at any age group would attrack 6-8 of the top 10 kids on the island. Now you have them spread out with 2-4 on several different teams. This is why LI can't compete with MD teams at this age group. I saw all three of these teams play this weekend and not one of them has a full strong line up. All had multiple glaring holes, even on the starting lines. I like the idea of balance and options of multiple clubs, but it is at the expense of Long Island lax representing. You all should get together and pick one club and all go there, starting to get embarrassing for LI.

1 exceptional kid, just like YJ 2023 "A" team

No exceptional players on YJ A or they wouldn't have lost to Igloo 2x and TG.

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Totally agree. That's why Maryland has a handful of girls lacrosse teams of very talented girls. Some of the Long Island teams have multiple teams for the same age group, like Top Guns and Yellow Jackets. It's a money maker for them.

As far as Igloo, they did win the championship at the US Lacrosse Nationals last week in Virginia in the girls 2023 category. Top Guns lost in the quarterfinals to a PA team and Yellow Jackets lost 2x to Igloo.

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The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.


You are obviously part of the friends and family clown show! You keep spouting off about the one goal differential where anybody could see why YJA is quickly slipping off into the abyss. Those girls are receiving absolutely no coaching or development and the slide will continue unless drastic measures are taken. Anyone who watched the TG game could clearly see the lack of coaching, case in point TG went into a stall and one girl literally stood in place for minutes while nobody pressured the ball and not one peep from the sideline. Coaching staff looked like they had zero interest in the last half of that game. The talent is there unfortunately the girls won't benefit. Next summer the team will slip further because reality is nothing will be done and the girls that need to be moved down won't, better players who should see the field more won't and parents will continue to put up with this nonsense because it's oh so important to be part of yellow jacket blue.

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The starting girls aren't leaving YJ for TG or Igloo as they played endlessly...to a fault perhaps...but still endlessly. No reason for them to go anywhere. It is those that are very good that should have played more that have reason to think about it. There are some that are best suited for a B team in any organization that will likely ask to go to YJ Wright to get a better experience. Only 2 have left YJA over last couple years...one to TG and one to Leg. One other went to TG and another to Leg after making YJA. As has been said by many, if you are not happy, there are other teams to go to. With 1 goal sperating these teams in "most" games, ...the other options are not that much better. They say that grass is greener on the other side. I've looked at the other side of grass and it is basically the same color. Once again...these verbal battles will be decided on the field. Igloo wins the Nationals and looked good. TG beat Igloo 4 out of 5. YJ wins Lax for Cure that included MD teams (regardless of bracket). None had a horrible season and none went undefeated. All will make for good games. Being on any of these 3 teams and add YJB to make the 4 top teams on the Island. The rest are...well...the rest.


You are obviously part of the friends and family clown show! You keep spouting off about the one goal differential where anybody could see why YJA is quickly slipping off into the abyss. Those girls are receiving absolutely no coaching or development and the slide will continue unless drastic measures are taken. Anyone who watched the TG game could clearly see the lack of coaching, case in point TG went into a stall and one girl literally stood in place for minutes while nobody pressured the ball and not one peep from the sideline. Coaching staff looked like they had zero interest in the last half of that game. The talent is there unfortunately the girls won't benefit. Next summer the team will slip further because reality is nothing will be done and the girls that need to be moved down won't, better players who should see the field more won't and parents will continue to put up with this nonsense because it's oh so important to be part of yellow jacket blue.


How about the brilliant move to call for a stick check on TG, which failed. And resulted in a failed stick check on YJ (typical cheaters) results in a turnover and game over. Jackass coaching at it's best! TG laughed at that one!!

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How is the girls 2023 Team 90+1? Saw them in a few tourneys this summer? Coaching any good?


Not sure but they brought in a new girls director who is all in. She's been at practices for a bunch of teams and looks to be evaluating the coaching.

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How is the girls 2023 Team 90+1? Saw them in a few tourneys this summer? Coaching any good?


Not sure but they brought in a new girls director who is all in. She's been at practices for a bunch of teams and looks to be evaluating the coaching.



AG will def make a change in team 90+1 for the better
Won't change over night but she will get them on the right path

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It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

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It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group



Over all 2023 are one of the most overrated age groups
Each team has one or two studs but that is about where it ends

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At the same time, you are admitting that the difference in that game was a failed stick check...not the teams. They are basically equal on the field. You just made that clear.

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Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.

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[quote=Anonymous]Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.

The Jesters are a town team.

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Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.


If not from Massapequa, don't bother. And even if you are from Massapequa, and you haven't been playing with them already, don't bother.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.

The Jesters are a town team.


Surprising the better girls haven't left and gone to club that can get them some exposure.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.

The Jesters are a town team.


Surprising the better girls haven't left and gone to club that can get them some exposure.



Please pump the brakes on the exposure talk

Recruiting rules have change
You will see little Debbie signing with Maryland in middle school anymore

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[quote=Anonymous]Jesters is $65 for two rounds of tryouts. And $1050
For the summer season. That includes winter training indoors. Anyone else care to share? That's what this forum is for.

Jesters are a B level travel team with a majority of the team from Massapequa.

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[quote=BOTCAdmin]It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

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It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group



Over all 2023 are one of the most overrated age groups
Each team has one or two studs but that is about where it ends

Overated how? Both YJ and TG have beat the top Maryland teams this past summer.

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