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Are there any other Northeast teams that are on the level of TG Black and YJ Rose?

A couple of the week one results; including Team elevate vs Top Guns; are not posted.

Your talking about 7th graders, Try and get a grip

YES! The teams that beat them at National Draw!

YJ 2018 Finalist at National Draw lost by 1 to M and D
YJ 2018 Finalist OC lost to M and D by 1 but bet them in pool play
YJ 2018 Champions Lax for cure

What has TG done?

I think most people (yes those of us that have no life) would like to see 2018 Top Guns Black play 2018 YJ Blue CR team. Alot of talent on both sides - last year they did not get to finish there much anticipated game at national draw and ended in a tie no less!! This year CR's team I hear does not have there starting goalie - do not know how that will affect things.
These 2 teams are probably the top 2 teams on the island - sorry if i am offending anyone

... plus I heard that YJ is going to play at Hofstra, but not before the two orgs, led by SS and CR get in a big circle, hold hands, and sing KUMBAYA!

BOTC had a meeting with Coach Smith at Hofstra on Wednesday during this last week - needless to say, we were not talking about an all-Long Island girls match-up just yet.

The Lacrosse-By-3 ClaSSic Showcase is getting a very positive reception with more than 50 teams already registered! Coaching registration for the Showcase is already taking shape.

YJ 2018 over Elevate 2017 last night at Sports Hub... Despite below par ref inconsistancies, and a score keeper that couldnt keep track of which team was home or away! Nice job YJs!!

I assume you mean the YJ JV team is the 2018 team? Is there any reason (other than CR and SS) why the TG 2018 is playing in the MS div and the 2018 YJ (if it is them) is playing in the HS div?

Can you let us in on what were the topics of conversation?

The same is true at Inline 1 in Mt. Sinai - a total of 4 TG teams (2-2017 and 2-2018) in the MS bracket and 3 YJ teams (at least one of which is 2017) in the HS bracket.
http://www.inline1.com/inline_lacrosse.php?section=Lacrosse

The Long Island Sports Hub Winter Leagues results and standings are available on-line. Check out the following links to get the details on the teams, results, standings, and upcoming schedules.

Girls - Middle School

Girls Middle School action sees both the Top Guns 2018 Black and Team Elevate at 2W-0L-0T while the North Shore Lady Vikings and Red Hots (Red) are both 2W-1L-0T. Garden City 2018 is close behind at 1W-1L-0T.

The Top Gun and Huntington score is reversed and incorrect on the site. Top Gun won 19-11.

Corrected here on BOTC and the standings have been adjusted to reflect the revision.

Having standings is the worst thing that they could do in these indoor leagues - the main objective should be practicing together and players working on their weaknesses, not the best handful of players dominating a 7v7 game that is meaningless. Some coaches and programs get it, but unfortunately most don't! Teams are actually bringing ringers to play in some of these games that they feel they MUST WIN - crazy!

BOTC has been anxiously awaiting this type of response. Question for you : exactly when do the results count? In all of our experience with youth sports, no team, coach, or player goes out to "lose". Every team shows up knowing that the results are being recorded.

If you do not want to have a true league with results, book indoor time and run a scrimmage. Under those circumstances, there will be no scores and no standings.

Do you really believe that there's a correlation between 7v7 indoor and a real lacrosse game?

Also, Coastal, Bethpage, Farmingdale, Mt Sinai indoor and every other winter league we've ever played kept no standings, most didn't even have scores at the games.

Do you think that there's any benefit...

... to a team and it's weaker players...

... in particular for them to be playing to win at all costs in winter league indoor games?

Especially at the younger ages where the entire game can be decided by 2-3 kids on each team.

Whether indoor soccer or lacrosse, the results of the small sided games are often well correlated to outdoor success. While that might break the hearts of some purists, it is the truth.

BOTC believes that receiving the services provided by a league - including results and standings - should be a standard for the money being charged to families and the teams.

Yes. The biggest problem reported to us here at BOTC regarding leagues and tournaments deals with unbalanced competition. Until results are recorded as a standard procedure, teams will continue to either be placed too high or too low in competitive ability.

Keeping records is actually more important for weaker teams to make sure that these development players are not "run over" by more seasoned or skilled players and teams.

Win-at-all-cost mentalities will exist in sports - and in particular youth sports - whether or not standings are kept. Bottom line is that if a score is kept, someone in the stands is making notes on the winners and losers.

For some reason, lacrosse just does not want to cross the great divide of actually ranking teams - perish the thought. Until you are willing to actually rank the teams into brackets, you will never get over this unbalanced competition issue.

Should a team like the TG 2018 Black have played in the high School Division; they are 7th graders. And what about the Team Elevate team; they are mostly eighth graders. I being these teams up since they are 1-2 in the, 'gasp' standings!

I agree with cage, Lacrosse needs to implement a system of ranking teams. Until an accurate ranking system is put in place we will continue to have lopsided games.

YJ 2018 wanted competition. They would rather lose to High School girls and increase their skills, than beat up on town teams just to feel good about themselves. It's about development, not ego.