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Re: 2016 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #221264 05/31/17 07:12 AM
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Starting a team. you get one player to pick, KO or Kent. I choose Kent every day and twice on Sundays. That is NOT a knock on KO. Great attacker. KO is one of the best players in the game. My opinion, Kent is THE best player in the game. And she does more for her team than just score and assist. She is great on the circle and is relentless on the ride. And what is so ridiculously remarkable about her is she steps out of the highest level of women's hockey into the midst of a season of the highest level women's lacrosse and dominates girls who have been playing all year. She put up one of the two greatest finals performances in the history of the women's game while being guarded by a Tewaaraton finalist defender and also made plays all over the midfield. We are talking about to of the very elite. There are arguments to be made on both sides. I come down on Kent's.



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take away the points late in the second half against teams that they are killing and the numbers are on par with the other great Div I players...the schedule and stat padding played a role in those great numbers.

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JS says KO is the best player in college lacrosse, because she scored 7 points against Hadnagy. And because she has 164 points against awful teams. So Kenzie Kent score 10 points against her and gets 71 points in 12 games playing against way tougher competition. Think that shows that she is one of the best players in the country. Wait until this kid plays a full year.


Stop being a bitter. KO and Kent are both great players. [lacrosse], Kent is even better than Apuzzo but you can't take 164 points away from anyone in D1, especially one on a ranked team. Now go crawl back in your.


No one is, it's just Kent is better. Plays long hard season of hockey and then goes and lights up lax season against real teams. She and Apuzzo also get draws,CTs and GBs, KO is one sided. Was KO MVP? No because Kent is amazing.


One sided...Stop it
NCAA Points record
NCAA Assists record
2nd in the country in goals
340 points in 3 seasons

Nothing one sided about 80+ Assists and 70+ goals.



I think you just proved his "one sided" argument for him - scoring only.


Actually he was comparing Apuzzo, who gets plenty of DC's and CT's and Kent to KO. Kent is just a scorer like KO. Just not as prolific. Kent had only 3 CT's and averaged only one DC per game..she also averaged more TO's, per game then KO. Her game is scoring. Just the facts here, not opinions

Let's face it people, if you are from Boston you are a Kent fan and if you are from LI you are going with KO, and that is how it should be. End of the day both are incredible players.

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Response to this uptight poster....

<""My sister played in the wooden stick area with natural boundaries so you can lose the air of superiority on the womens game and it's rules- I have been watching for 35 years... The pocket in their sticks has grown immensely since then and that has helped. But the passing with the now-limited pockets is still far far below that in the men's. The guys draw far bigger crowds- and it's just because their game showcases passing and great shooting, in short better skills. By the way- see any Mikey Powell's or Gary Gaits they should be showcasing better?? No, not at the moment since the Thompson brothers graduated.

The endless fouling, scrums around a ground ball in the women's game make it hard to enjoy. It's by far the majority opinion in these forums, so lose the huge attitude and work for change, the game is good but should be so much better."">

First of all tough guy/girl. It's not an attitude it's an opinion. Your response clearly shows your combative attitude and since you said you've been watching for 35 years we can assume your not a child although your offense to an opinion leans that way. Your entitled to your opinion but drop the personal attack. You'll lose.

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JS says KO is the best player in college lacrosse, because she scored 7 points against Hadnagy. And because she has 164 points against awful teams. So Kenzie Kent score 10 points against her and gets 71 points in 12 games playing against way tougher competition. Think that shows that she is one of the best players in the country. Wait until this kid plays a full year.


Stop being a bitter. KO and Kent are both great players. [lacrosse], Kent is even better than Apuzzo but you can't take 164 points away from anyone in D1, especially one on a ranked team. Now go crawl back in your.


No one is, it's just Kent is better. Plays long hard season of hockey and then goes and lights up lax season against real teams. She and Apuzzo also get draws,CTs and GBs, KO is one sided. Was KO MVP? No because Kent is amazing.


One sided...Stop it
NCAA Points record
NCAA Assists record
2nd in the country in goals
340 points in 3 seasons

Nothing one sided about 80+ Assists and 70+ goals.



I think you just proved his "one sided" argument for him - scoring only.


Actually he was comparing Apuzzo, who gets plenty of DC's and CT's and Kent to KO. Kent is just a scorer like KO. Just not as prolific. Kent had only 3 CT's and averaged only one DC per game..she also averaged more TO's, per game then KO. Her game is scoring. Just the facts here, not opinions

Let's face it people, if you are from Boston you are a Kent fan and if you are from LI you are going with KO, and that is how it should be. End of the day both are incredible players.


Kind of a moot point, no? Kent is not eligible for the award (neither is Apuzzo anymore) so there shouldn't be a comparison this year. Of the five candidates, KO is tops...

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Finalists will be the best five players chosen without regard to institution.
Finalists will be selected based on individual performance and a player’s contribution to the success of their team.
Finalists are chosen based on the current year’s regular-season performance (date of selection is at the conclusion of the regular season, before playoffs).
Recipients are chosen based on the current year’s regular season and playoff performance.
Sportsmanship can play a role in the selection process and it is important that the recipient upholds the mission and values of the Tewaaraton Award.

This is from the Tewaaraton website. I think all finalists are good on the first three points. The Maryland girls get the edge on point four (obviously) and it hurts Ohmiller. I think the fifth point hurts Ohmiller as well. She has allowed the media to portray her as playing with a chip on her shoulder and her post game remarks after the Maryland game didn't help her. Ohmiller had a fantastic year and is really the 1-3 pick but I think it goes to Hadnagy. But I've wrong 50% of the time in the past.......ha ha.

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Finalists will be the best five players chosen without regard to institution.
Finalists will be selected based on individual performance and a player’s contribution to the success of their team.
Finalists are chosen based on the current year’s regular-season performance (date of selection is at the conclusion of the regular season, before playoffs).
Recipients are chosen based on the current year’s regular season and playoff performance.
Sportsmanship can play a role in the selection process and it is important that the recipient upholds the mission and values of the Tewaaraton Award.

This is from the Tewaaraton website. I think all finalists are good on the first three points. The Maryland girls get the edge on point four (obviously) and it hurts Ohmiller. I think the fifth point hurts Ohmiller as well. She has allowed the media to portray her as playing with a chip on her shoulder and her post game remarks after the Maryland game didn't help her. Ohmiller had a fantastic year and is really the 1-3 pick but I think it goes to Hadnagy. But I've wrong 50% of the time in the past.......ha ha.


Couple of points. Its lacrosse so there still will be politics. Maryland coaches are better liked than SB and to Baldbears post if they went defense that would be great and a real slap at some who love padding those stats!

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I'm rooting for KO.. she lifted her team all season to an eventual #4 ranking and a real chance at upsetting Md. in the NCAA's. setting records along the way..
could her "flashy" style hurt her as a sign of bad sportsmanship.. maybe

Hadnagy gave up 7 points to TO and 10 to Kent,
Stukenberg was absent from the finals - face guarded out of it
Hompe did not shine as bright on the big stage as she may have needed too
Mccool let her team lose to an unranked Navy team.. the best player in the sport doesnt let that happen


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I'm rooting for KO.. she lifted her team all season to an eventual #4 ranking and a real chance at upsetting Md. in the NCAA's. setting records along the way..
could her "flashy" style hurt her as a sign of bad sportsmanship.. maybe

Hadnagy gave up 7 points to TO and 10 to Kent,
Stukenberg was absent from the finals - face guarded out of it
Hompe did not shine as bright on the big stage as she may have needed too
Mccool let her team lose to an unranked Navy team.. the best player in the sport doesnt let that happen



KO played big in big games but there were only a few of them and the SB antics and poor sportsmanship is not lost on anyone and something don't think the sport wants to glorify like ESPN does. Undefeated is so hard to top.

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I'm rooting for KO.. she lifted her team all season to an eventual #4 ranking and a real chance at upsetting Md. in the NCAA's. setting records along the way..
could her "flashy" style hurt her as a sign of bad sportsmanship.. maybe

Hadnagy gave up 7 points to TO and 10 to Kent,
Stukenberg was absent from the finals - face guarded out of it
Hompe did not shine as bright on the big stage as she may have needed too
Mccool let her team lose to an unranked Navy team.. the best player in the sport doesnt let that happen



I think Stukenberg gets it and deserves it. The fact that she was face guarded in the finals tells you what BC thought of her on the offensive end of the field. KO great season but has had some issues in the past that may have an impact ie the Hopkins game .

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I'm rooting for KO.. she lifted her team all season to an eventual #4 ranking and a real chance at upsetting Md. in the NCAA's. setting records along the way..
could her "flashy" style hurt her as a sign of bad sportsmanship.. maybe

Hadnagy gave up 7 points to TO and 10 to Kent,
Stukenberg was absent from the finals - face guarded out of it
Hompe did not shine as bright on the big stage as she may have needed too
Mccool let her team lose to an unranked Navy team.. the best player in the sport doesnt let that happen



I think Stukenberg gets it and deserves it. The fact that she was face guarded in the finals tells you what BC thought of her on the offensive end of the field. KO great season but has had some issues in the past that may have an impact ie the Hopkins game .

Issues, What issues? Quint and Stanwick-Burch were glowing about her during the game. They couldn't say enough good things about her. You also might wan to read Kinnear's recent IL piece on her. No issues at all

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...ut-much-more-than-breaking-records/49594

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If you look at the history of the award no matter what the website says it almost always goes to the National Championship team and the committee prefers two way players. Agree KO may be the most deserving but Stukenberg will win. They never give it to defenders and Hadnagy was lit up by Kent in the finals with a record setting performance - most of which was 1 on 1. BTW Stukenberg will also graduate with a perfect 4.0 gpa while taking pre-med courses.

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4.0 Biology
National Champs
Undefeated
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The MD lady wins it over KO and SB
Although the crazy stats are going to be hard to overlook. Lets see if politics play a role in the selection

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I'm rooting for KO.. she lifted her team all season to an eventual #4 ranking and a real chance at upsetting Md. in the NCAA's. setting records along the way..
could her "flashy" style hurt her as a sign of bad sportsmanship.. maybe

Hadnagy gave up 7 points to TO and 10 to Kent,
Stukenberg was absent from the finals - face guarded out of it
Hompe did not shine as bright on the big stage as she may have needed too
Mccool let her team lose to an unranked Navy team.. the best player in the sport doesnt let that happen



I think Stukenberg gets it and deserves it. The fact that she was face guarded in the finals tells you what BC thought of her on the offensive end of the field. KO great season but has had some issues in the past that may have an impact ie the Hopkins game .

Issues, What issues? Quint and Stanwick-Burch were glowing about her during the game. They couldn't say enough good things about her. You also might wan to read Kinnear's recent IL piece on her. No issues at all

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...ut-much-more-than-breaking-records/49594



That's great but talking about an issue not this year . Let's say she was being faceguarded and got frustrated and did something very unsportsmanlike , incident was caught on film and Hopkins coaches did not take it lightly. Those things have a tendency to follow a player .

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4.0 Biology
National Champs
Undefeated
3x national champion
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Better liked coach
The MD lady wins it over KO and SB
Although the crazy stats are going to be hard to overlook. Lets see if politics play a role in the selection


All great points for a team award, but it's an individual award and she broke 2 major records with points and assists. Think Lyle Thompson's season when he won. Also, If you pick against her because her coach is pompas you shouldn't have a vote. Maryland no doubt the #1 team in the nation and I believe their fans and coaches believe SB is #2. Like you said hard to overlook the stats but if you want to help grow the game it should be KO in a landslide.

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