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Why have a PAL "A" team when there is no longer an A division? PAL did a two year experiment a few years back to combat this and said fine, if you are going to field an A team then you have to play in the Select division. Funny thing was, a bunch of towns that had an A team didn't play in that Select division, they trolled in the 2nd division. Because of this they abandoned the Select division. So now your mighty A team probably romps the three manhasset, three Gc etc. teams that are split evenly and still play in the top division. Whats the point of that? (the towns that supported that select division were WM, WI, SWR, CSH, GC, Manhasset, LV and Northport Massapequa). Long Beach, Farmingdale and some other towns with only 1 team or A teams hid in D2...

What age group are we talking about here?

PAL did this for 5th and 6th grade for 22,21,20 age groups but then reverted back to its current state across the board--most towns put forth equal teams, but then the few that have an A team like 3vil rip through PAL... Pal was attempting to put a structure forth to accomodate those that felt they just had to have an A team but ultimately it wasn't supported enough.

Who HAS to have an A team?

So are there different divisions? If there is no longer an A, is there still a B and C?

There was a Select division for teams that put forth an A team (determined via tryout). Now its masked Div 1,2,3,4 but not a specific division for town select teams.

No one HAS to have an A team.

Did I miss something or are you guys making assumptions about 3V?

3rd Grade A Div: 3V is 2-4
4th Grade A Div: 3V is 1-4
5th Grade A Div: No team in Suffolk. They thunk they're special.
6th Grade A Div: 3V is 2-1-2
7-8th Grade A Div: 3V is 4-2

Does that sound like a town that's ripping through PAL? They are average to below average on every level when compared to other A division teams.

They are not sandbagging or trying to beat up on anyone. You're all nuts.

Well the post above states the following, and I quote: "Pal was attempting to put a structure forth to accomodate those that felt they just had to have an A team but ultimately it wasn't supported enough" So the question remains, who has to have an A team?

But I thought Three Village was a top level "travel" team that could compete with the clubs? Guess that dispels that myth.

You know the towns listed ALL supported a Select division or you are speculating?? I am skeptical of my town town's participation in that considering my son is in the age groups mentioned, and their PAL teams were never consistently beating up on anybody before, during , or after this (I don't remember them ever being much above .500), and we never had multiple teams at these age groups (or any others, for that matter).

Would be nice to have a True A division and play island wide for boys and girls. Most people drive all summer long up and down the East Coast to play the same teams. PAL in Nassau and Suffolk could get enough teams to do it.

Yup, this way you get to save 2200 bucks. And the high school coach can drive the bus. And the trainer would be there to break down the game. And the certified qualified coach would be fully immersed. Stop being cheap and play club.

The True A Division? It doesn't exist because the skill levels and talent pools in different towns and school districts are all over the map. Some of these teams would be loaded with club kids, some not as many. I second the sentiment of the poster above, Stop being so cheap and play club.

How about we create a league, make it all inclusive to keep our kids off the street and doing something positive. How about we ensure that the kids have an enjoyable experience and we make it about FUN and not necessarily about winning. Wait a minute......that's PAL. Hmmmmmm.

Keep our kids off the street? Where do we live? Compton? Not a lot of kids playing lacrosse that their alternative would be in a gang.

Does anyone think something like Casey Powell's Speed Lacrosse will ever become a thing on LI? Looks like it's branded to more beginners.

My son played it and raved about how much fun he had running and gunning . He also loves box and there are sure similarities I hope it catches on.

What tournaments this weekend?

I like the no coach / parents rule. Was that enforced / complied with?

"No Coaches - The Official Court Guard will enforce the rules and coach both teams when needed. All parents shall refrain from screaming at anyone or be subject to removal."

Yup, because heroin is NOT a problem in Long Island. Must be pretty deep hole in the ground you bury your head in friend.

Blatant Spring Jam
A division is Igloo A, Outlaws Select, Tornadoes and SYAG Select
B division is Express Hedstrom and White, Igloo b, 3V Gold, Brooklyn Crescents, Bombers East End, Force and Outlaws Gold.

Should be a fun day of lax.

Funny that you mention that because rather than get ejected, I left him there and went and had a quiet cup of coffee!!!!!

Glad Syag moved to A. They deserve it

If my son does this I'm going to bring binoculars and fit him with an earpiece. :-)

Speed lacrosse is awesome. Long Island is run by Tim Byrnes a Cuse All American from Baldwin. Took my son and he had a great time playing with all different ranges and boys and girls. So much more touches for every kid plus no equipment to worry about. Starting to do variations of this for my PAL and already getting more kids than we ever had

Good to know!

HVLAX has a big meeting we're going to tonight. The whole program is a sh*t show. Horrible culture and the town has suffered because of this. Can't wait to rip into the board for screwing up the development of the boys.

Remember this: "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. " What will you do for your program?

Its the individuals we have coaching here in Huntington, NOT the board. Some bad eggs in the ranks.

Burn it down. Restart with a real leadership team.

Will you be part of that team? Will you grab a whistle and a clip board? What contribution will you offer?

JR does a great job for HVLax . You have a great program. Never heard anything negative

Does anyone know of a summer league for town teams? Eastern/central-east Suffolk?

Yeah, it's for all the soccer kids that can't play lacrosse!

My son played at East Islip Marina and Tanner park in Copiague a couple years ago. Both nice places and no real issues.

East Islip Summer League is looking for teams. They play down by the marina

Said the fat [lacrosse] looser that couldn't run a half lap around the field but wears all the lax gear and yells on the side line. A1/4 of my kids, including mine,play travel. Was looking to keep the stick in the other kids hands and grow the team. My son likes playing lax with his friends and want to provide an affordable program that might spark a 3rd graders interest in the sport.

Thanks. Does anyone have contact info?

Now that the weather is nice I guess we will start seeing the shoeless coach again😜Hopefully his assistants don't get thrown out

Let me guess So your team got beat and he made you look like a fool.