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So what does this mean for his position at Syracuse?

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Many kids don't love practicing 35 hours a week especially when many have gone from the best players on their club or school teams to players that barely get off the bench if ever in college. When they hit the turn going into JR year many choose internships and just to enjoy everything college has to offer the last two years without the rigors of a fulltime lax job. We can all fool ourselves but if you don't think some of these kids are playing just because mom and dad have always pushed it you are being naive and when they reach 20 years of age many are now mature enough to push back on mom and dad and tell them they are done. That's why only 50% play all four years.


Why do you make nonsense up . 35 hours a week is so ridiculous . Add it up not even close especially in season .

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Many kids don't love practicing 35 hours a week especially when many have gone from the best players on their club or school teams to players that barely get off the bench if ever in college. When they hit the turn going into JR year many choose internships and just to enjoy everything college has to offer the last two years without the rigors of a fulltime lax job. We can all fool ourselves but if you don't think some of these kids are playing just because mom and dad have always pushed it you are being naive and when they reach 20 years of age many are now mature enough to push back on mom and dad and tell them they are done. That's why only 50% play all four years.


STOP , why post if you are clueless. Your kid obviously does not play D1 lacrosse . Yes some kids quit the sport but there are many reasons for this . Many college students stop doing activities that were part of their life while in high school when they get to college .Many of you paint the picture that D1 lacrosse is missery when in fact most kids who go on tho play at that level find it to be the opposite . As a parent I like the structure it provides and the academic help and the monetary situation is not bad either.

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Many kids don't love practicing 35 hours a week especially when many have gone from the best players on their club or school teams to players that barely get off the bench if ever in college. When they hit the turn going into JR year many choose internships and just to enjoy everything college has to offer the last two years without the rigors of a fulltime lax job. We can all fool ourselves but if you don't think some of these kids are playing just because mom and dad have always pushed it you are being naive and when they reach 20 years of age many are now mature enough to push back on mom and dad and tell them they are done. That's why only 50% play all four years.


STOP , why post if you are clueless. Your kid obviously does not play D1 lacrosse . Yes some kids quit the sport but there are many reasons for this . Many college students stop doing activities that were part of their life while in high school when they get to college .Many of you paint the picture that D1 lacrosse is missery when in fact most kids who go on tho play at that level find it to be the opposite . As a parent I like the structure it provides and the academic help and the monetary situation is not bad either.


BS. Parent of 3 D1 athletes here and, while not misery, it takes a LOT of time and commitment and plenty of kids decide it's not worth it. Not saying it's misery but I can tell you that it is a close to full-time job on top of school work. I, too, like the structure and support that comes with it but to imply it's a walk in the park is just dead wrong.

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Many kids don't love practicing 35 hours a week especially when many have gone from the best players on their club or school teams to players that barely get off the bench if ever in college. When they hit the turn going into JR year many choose internships and just to enjoy everything college has to offer the last two years without the rigors of a fulltime lax job. We can all fool ourselves but if you don't think some of these kids are playing just because mom and dad have always pushed it you are being naive and when they reach 20 years of age many are now mature enough to push back on mom and dad and tell them they are done. That's why only 50% play all four years.


STOP , why post if you are clueless. Your kid obviously does not play D1 lacrosse . Yes some kids quit the sport but there are many reasons for this . Many college students stop doing activities that were part of their life while in high school when they get to college .Many of you paint the picture that D1 lacrosse is missery when in fact most kids who go on tho play at that level find it to be the opposite . As a parent I like the structure it provides and the academic help and the monetary situation is not bad either.



Another factor that can't be ignored is Team Drama. My daughter quit her D1 team because of team drama. Girls are vicious.

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Looks like cuse just got the upset of the year!! Way to go 🍊

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Looks like cuse just got the upset of the year!! Way to go 🍊


#12 from Syracuse out with ACL injury. Tough loss moving forward for the Orange.

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Hofstra over Towson 17-15. I guess SS gonna hang around another year. GO PRIDE!!!

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Looks like cuse just got the upset of the year!! Way to go 🍊


#12 from Syracuse out with ACL injury. Tough loss moving forward for the Orange.

Tough injury, but very one dimensional as a player. Got shut down all year. Doesn't have the physical attributes to be a consistent top player.

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Many kids don't love practicing 35 hours a week especially when many have gone from the best players on their club or school teams to players that barely get off the bench if ever in college. When they hit the turn going into JR year many choose internships and just to enjoy everything college has to offer the last two years without the rigors of a fulltime lax job. We can all fool ourselves but if you don't think some of these kids are playing just because mom and dad have always pushed it you are being naive and when they reach 20 years of age many are now mature enough to push back on mom and dad and tell them they are done. That's why only 50%
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STOP , why post if you are clueless. Your kid obviously does not play D1 lacrosse . Yes some kids quit the sport but there are many reasons for this . Many college students stop doing activities that were part of their life while in high school when they get to college .Many of you paint the picture that D1 lacrosse is missery when in fact most kids who go on tho play at that level find it to be the opposite . As a parent I like the structure it provides and the academic help and the monetary situation is not bad either.


BS. Parent of 3 D1 athletes here and, while not misery, it takes a LOT of time and commitment and plenty of kids decide it's not worth it. Not saying it's misery but I can tell you that it is a close to full-time job on top of school work. I, too, like the structure and support that comes with it but to imply it's a walk in the park is just dead wrong.


Sorry but maybe your kids experience has been vastly different than mine . My daughter plays for a top 10 D1 girls lax team and honestly spends less than 20 hours per week doing lax related things i.e. Practice, lifting, running , film, games , at least in season .Yes travel , does take some time but they get some studying done during . 20 hours a week is no joke but it's not unmanageable .

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#12 from Syracuse out with ACL injury. Tough loss moving forward for the Orange.[/quote]
Tough injury, but very one dimensional as a player. Got shut down all year. Doesn't have the physical attributes to be a consistent top player. [/quote]

One dimension is what majority of kids don't have🍊

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Looks like cuse just got the upset of the year!! Way to go 🍊


#12 from Syracuse out with ACL injury. Tough loss moving forward for the Orange.

Tough injury, but very one dimensional as a player. Got shut down all year. Doesn't have the physical attributes to be a consistent top player.

The poor girl just tore her ACL and you have to talk negative about her. Really? Pray it never hapoens to your kid!

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Looks like cuse just got the upset of the year!! Way to go 🍊


#12 from Syracuse out with ACL injury. Tough loss moving forward for the Orange.

Tough injury, but very one dimensional as a player. Got shut down all year. Doesn't have the physical attributes to be a consistent top player.

The poor girl just tore her ACL and you have to talk negative about her. Really? Pray it never hapoens to your kid!



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Curious how you "know" she tore her ACL. Why make such a douchie comment about a kid who had a very ,very successful freshman season. If true about her ACL, which I am not so sure about, I hope nothing but the best for her, she is a nice kid.

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Tarheels looking very banged up. Bill out, Hazar looking gimpy. just got totally out hustled and out muscled by Cuse. can't see them rasing the trophy this year unless they can get some people healthy..

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My guess would be a jealous parent who's kid is standing on the sideline

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sorry Carnac, not even close. just a fan that watches a lot of games. great program, great kids, but its always hard to repeat. especially with injuries to all-americans. happy for Cuse on the win.

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My guess would be a jealous parent who's kid is standing on the sideline


sorry Carnac, not even close. just a fan that watches a lot of games. great program, great kids, but its always hard to repeat. especially with injuries to all-americans. happy for Cuse on the win.


I think he may have been responding to the poster responding to the loser bashing Levy not your ridiculous post. Yes UNC is banged up as are many teams but they still have enough weapons to get it done ,will come down to winning the draw and a hot goal keeper if they are going to repeat, also need MM to have big games when it matters most. That said no one at this point has come close to Maryland and UNC would be an underdog in that one with or without MB.

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Hofstra over Towson 17-15. I guess SS gonna hang around another year. GO PRIDE!!!


Great win for Pride. Congrats!!!! Hope they can add a few more this season.

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20



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IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 12-0 397 17 1
2 Lindenwood 15-0 380 2 2
3 Le Moyne 12-0 362 1 3
4 Florida Southern 16-2 339 4
5 LIU Post 9-2 311 6
6 Rollins 12-3 298 5
7 Limestone 13-2 269 7
8 Queens 12-2 262 8
9 Florida Tech 11-2 251 9
10 New Haven 9-2 196 12
11 Pace 10-2 192 13
12 West Chester 9-3 162 11
13 NYIT 12-1 149 14
14 Mercyhurst 8-3 147 10
15 Regis (CO) 12-1 125 15
16 Mercy 13-1 105 16
17 East Stroudsburg 11-2 86 NR
18 Stonehill 7-5 64 17
19 Indiana (PA) 7-5 33 18
20 Lock Haven 7-6 26 19



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Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 College of NJ 9-1 392 15 1
2 Washington & Lee 10-1 374 2 2
3 Gettysburg 11-2 361 3 3
4 Middlebury 10-2 346 5
5 [lacrosse] 13-2 297 7
6 Trinity (CT) 11-2 287 6
7 Messiah 10-2 271 10
8 William Smith 12-1 238 9
9 Franklin & Marshall 10-4 235 4
10 Colby 9-3 189 16
11 Hamilton 9-4 181 13
12 Ithaca 11-2 174 12
13 Salisbury 11-5 165 11
14 Mary Washington 13-4 128 14
14 Catholic (DC) 8-4 128 17
16 Bowdoin 9-4 102 8
17 Cortland 9-3 86 15
18 Tufts 8-4 70 20
19 Brockport 10-1 66 18
20 Wesleyan (CT) 9-4 61 NR


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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Thats what they said last year also, how'd that work out?

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Thats what they said last year also, how'd that work out?


And the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that.....

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Maryland, North Carolina, Florida and Penn State in the Final Four unless two of them meet in an earlier round.

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 17

Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Maryland, North Carolina, Florida and Penn State in the Final Four unless two of them meet in an earlier round.


If any of the four listed above knock each other off then Syracuse, Southern Cal or Colorado might make it to the Final Four. Penn and Princeton outside shot as well.
Seeding will play a role, some teams will have an easier track than others to the final four. The key is getting there, once there all bets are off.

Who is prepared mentally and physically? Who has played the toughest schedule? Who has adapted to playing on the road? Who is best prepared to play two tough games in three days? etc...

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sorry Carnac, not even close. just a fan that watches a lot of games. great program, great kids, but its always hard to repeat. especially with injuries to all-americans. happy for Cuse on the win.


I think he may have been responding to the poster responding to the loser bashing Levy not your ridiculous post. Yes UNC is banged up as are many teams but they still have enough weapons to get it done ,will come down to winning the draw and a hot goal keeper if they are going to repeat, also need MM to have big games when it matters most. That said no one at this point has come close to Maryland and UNC would be an underdog in that one with or without MB.



Watch out for Penn State, they beat Maryland last year in BIG championship game

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Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset



PENN STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Maryland, North Carolina, Florida and Penn State in the Final Four unless two of them meet in an earlier round.


I see what you did there, really went out on a limb picking 1, 2, 3 and 5. Hmmmm, what happens to 4? Someone is a hater or a troll.

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Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 15-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 13-2 375 3
3 North Carolina 12-2 348 2
4 Stony Brook 13-1 346 4
5 Penn State 14-1 327 5
6 Princeton 10-2 290 7
7 Syracuse 12-4 265 12
8 Southern California 12-3 254 9
9 Colorado 13-2 238 6
10 Penn 10-2 234 9
11 Notre Dame 11-5 192 11
12 Cornell 10-2 190 8
13 Denver 12-2 147 13
14 Virginia 9-7 128 15
15 Northwestern 8-7 126 16
16 James Madison 10-5 98 17
17 Towson 9-5 87 13
18 Boston College 11-5 50 19
19 Virginia Tech 11-6 44 18
20 Duke 7-7 26 20




OK we are getting deep into the season. Do you go with the only winners from the last 25 years in NC, Maryland, NW Virginia or Princeton or do you take the field. My gut say NC or Maryland win it again and anyone else is still a longshot and an upset


MD is the clear and only favorite at this point - the only contest is for second place


Maryland, North Carolina, Florida and Penn State in the Final Four unless two of them meet in an earlier round.


I see what you did there, really went out on a limb picking 1, 2, 3 and 5. Hmmmm, what happens to 4? Someone is a hater or a troll.

Who have they beat , they lay an exceptionally weak schedule so maybe they feel they will not be well prepared.

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I pick MD to win it all, and the other three of the final will be UNC, Penn State and FL. Like the other poster said, SB had a relatively weak schedule. Good team but not going to the final four. As for the rest, no chance of seeing the final four.

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my final 4 NW, BC, SB MD


What are you smoking today?

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Watching the NW v Duke on BTN replay- yes an insomniac it stinks. The women's game is flat tough to watch. Almost every clear consists of one girl barreling down the field with her head down, trying to force it through double teams, while being crosschecked and bumped for 70 yards, three whistles later you have a clear. Even the announcer just called it "scrappy"..

When they do finally gain the zone it's all crowded in and a series of one on one matchups take place- more forcing through double teams. Everyone is playing the zone now so even if a player does dodge and beat their girl there's at least one defender waiting to stop the challenge or set up a free position. There's just not much motion or fluidity in this game. Rarely see a pretty assist and finish.

They need to adapt more features from the guys game. 50 yard restraining line, 6v6 in the zone, full pockets in the cross. Get passing and movement and athleticism back into the game. They have taken a few things recently- can kick the ball to get it out of a crowd, go in your own crease, but more is needed. Make it entertaining to watch. Fans might come watch.. on the men's side UNC v SU a few days ago had hundreds of fans, placed was packed. And the game was entertaining. There's no reason why the men's game should be that much better for fans. These women are great athletes, but their version of the game is holding them back big time.

It reminds me of the NBA in the 90's. Rough, physical super low scoring and tough to watch.

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Watching the NW v Duke on BTN replay- yes an insomniac it stinks. The women's game is flat tough to watch. Almost every clear consists of one girl barreling down the field with her head down, trying to force it through double teams, while being crosschecked and bumped for 70 yards, three whistles later you have a clear. Even the announcer just called it "scrappy"..

When they do finally gain the zone it's all crowded in and a series of one on one matchups take place- more forcing through double teams. Everyone is playing the zone now so even if a player does dodge and beat their girl there's at least one defender waiting to stop the challenge or set up a free position. There's just not much motion or fluidity in this game. Rarely see a pretty assist and finish.

They need to adapt more features from the guys game. 50 yard restraining line, 6v6 in the zone, full pockets in the cross. Get passing and movement and athleticism back into the game. They have taken a few things recently- can kick the ball to get it out of a crowd, go in your own crease, but more is needed. Make it entertaining to watch. Fans might come watch.. on the men's side UNC v SU a few days ago had hundreds of fans, placed was packed. And the game was entertaining. There's no reason why the men's game should be that much better for fans. These women are great athletes, but their version of the game is holding them back big time.

It reminds me of the NBA in the 90's. Rough, physical super low scoring and tough to watch.
I disagree on a couple of your points. I don't think you know the woman's/girls game as well as the men. Giving the woman pockets in there sticks would change the game and lead to full gear and helmets, and any fan of the woman's game doesn't want that. The changes have to come in the rules committee in the way the refs call the game. Taking goals away from a team because the defense commits a foul is the worst rule in any sport and it happens all to often.

Charges have been called more often that this year, and that is a good thing, but they need to call dangerous play ( cross checks, dangerous checks...) with more yellow cards, and fragrantly dangerous play with red cards ( 20+ years of watching woman's lacrosse and have never seen a red card, girls have no fear of it).

What they do need to do is move to a progressive foul system. Just like in basketball, after 5 fouls you are thrown out of the game, that would stop a lot of fouls because they would need to stay in the game. As of now fouling a team in transition all the way down the field is a tactic acceptable to the NCAA and US Lacrosse so teams will continue to do so

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Watching the NW v Duke on BTN replay- yes an insomniac it stinks. The women's game is flat tough to watch. Almost every clear consists of one girl barreling down the field with her head down, trying to force it through double teams, while being crosschecked and bumped for 70 yards, three whistles later you have a clear. Even the announcer just called it "scrappy"..

When they do finally gain the zone it's all crowded in and a series of one on one matchups take place- more forcing through double teams. Everyone is playing the zone now so even if a player does dodge and beat their girl there's at least one defender waiting to stop the challenge or set up a free position. There's just not much motion or fluidity in this game. Rarely see a pretty assist and finish.

They need to adapt more features from the guys game. 50 yard restraining line, 6v6 in the zone, full pockets in the cross. Get passing and movement and athleticism back into the game. They have taken a few things recently- can kick the ball to get it out of a crowd, go in your own crease, but more is needed. Make it entertaining to watch. Fans might come watch.. on the men's side UNC v SU a few days ago had hundreds of fans, placed was packed. And the game was entertaining. There's no reason why the men's game should be that much better for fans. These women are great athletes, but their version of the game is holding them back big time.

It reminds me of the NBA in the 90's. Rough, physical super low scoring and tough to watch.


couldn't agree more and that scrappy ugly play is leading to helmets. Open it up get that ball being whipped around from player to player. take the full field run out of the game and BAN isolation plays at the youth level haha

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Watching the NW v Duke on BTN replay- yes an insomniac it stinks. The women's game is flat tough to watch. Almost every clear consists of one girl barreling down the field with her head down, trying to force it through double teams, while being crosschecked and bumped for 70 yards, three whistles later you have a clear. Even the announcer just called it "scrappy"..

When they do finally gain the zone it's all crowded in and a series of one on one matchups take place- more forcing through double teams. Everyone is playing the zone now so even if a player does dodge and beat their girl there's at least one defender waiting to stop the challenge or set up a free position. There's just not much motion or fluidity in this game. Rarely see a pretty assist and finish.

They need to adapt more features from the guys game. 50 yard restraining line, 6v6 in the zone, full pockets in the cross. Get passing and movement and athleticism back into the game. They have taken a few things recently- can kick the ball to get it out of a crowd, go in your own crease, but more is needed. Make it entertaining to watch. Fans might come watch.. on the men's side UNC v SU a few days ago had hundreds of fans, placed was packed. And the game was entertaining. There's no reason why the men's game should be that much better for fans. These women are great athletes, but their version of the game is holding them back big time.

It reminds me of the NBA in the 90's. Rough, physical super low scoring and tough to watch.
I disagree on a couple of your points. I don't think you know the woman's/girls game as well as the men. Giving the woman pockets in there sticks would change the game and lead to full gear and helmets, and any fan of the woman's game doesn't want that. The changes have to come in the rules committee in the way the refs call the game. Taking goals away from a team because the defense commits a foul is the worst rule in any sport and it happens all to often.

Charges have been called more often that this year, and that is a good thing, but they need to call dangerous play ( cross checks, dangerous checks...) with more yellow cards, and fragrantly dangerous play with red cards ( 20+ years of watching woman's lacrosse and have never seen a red card, girls have no fear of it).

What they do need to do is move to a progressive foul system. Just like in basketball, after 5 fouls you are thrown out of the game, that would stop a lot of fouls because they would need to stay in the game. As of now fouling a team in transition all the way down the field is a tactic acceptable to the NCAA and US Lacrosse so teams will continue to do so



The officials are horrendous and the players know they can't get away with anything. Unlike say NHL hockey where guys know a cross check in the back means a trip to the box. No 7 for Duke on attack was riding a mid and as she ran out of room approaching the 30 she just shoved her girl in the back with a cross check. NU player went flying and they blew the whistle. But no card of courwe.

This play wasn't supposed to be a point of emphasis when I went to the rules seminar that's mandatory for rec coaches. What a joke these refs are. Reminds me of the WWF with Danny dolan taking to a guy about a cheap shot while his manager hits the opponent over the head with a folding chair!!

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Watching the NW v Duke on BTN replay- yes an insomniac it stinks. The women's game is flat tough to watch. Almost every clear consists of one girl barreling down the field with her head down, trying to force it through double teams, while being crosschecked and bumped for 70 yards, three whistles later you have a clear. Even the announcer just called it "scrappy"..

When they do finally gain the zone it's all crowded in and a series of one on one matchups take place- more forcing through double teams. Everyone is playing the zone now so even if a player does dodge and beat their girl there's at least one defender waiting to stop the challenge or set up a free position. There's just not much motion or fluidity in this game. Rarely see a pretty assist and finish.

They need to adapt more features from the guys game. 50 yard restraining line, 6v6 in the zone, full pockets in the cross. Get passing and movement and athleticism back into the game. They have taken a few things recently- can kick the ball to get it out of a crowd, go in your own crease, but more is needed. Make it entertaining to watch. Fans might come watch.. on the men's side UNC v SU a few days ago had hundreds of fans, placed was packed. And the game was entertaining. There's no reason why the men's game should be that much better for fans. These women are great athletes, but their version of the game is holding them back big time.

It reminds me of the NBA in the 90's. Rough, physical super low scoring and tough to watch.
I disagree on a couple of your points. I don't think you know the woman's/girls game as well as the men. Giving the woman pockets in there sticks would change the game and lead to full gear and helmets, and any fan of the woman's game doesn't want that. The changes have to come in the rules committee in the way the refs call the game. Taking goals away from a team because the defense commits a foul is the worst rule in any sport and it happens all to often.

Charges have been called more often that this year, and that is a good thing, but they need to call dangerous play ( cross checks, dangerous checks...) with more yellow cards, and fragrantly dangerous play with red cards ( 20+ years of watching woman's lacrosse and have never seen a red card, girls have no fear of it).

What they do need to do is move to a progressive foul system. Just like in basketball, after 5 fouls you are thrown out of the game, that would stop a lot of fouls because they would need to stay in the game. As of now fouling a team in transition all the way down the field is a tactic acceptable to the NCAA and US Lacrosse so teams will continue to do so


Progressive foul system???? Like basketball.?? In womens lax you would run out of defenders the way the game is called. If you watch a game, any doubt about a foul the call is made against the defenders. In Basketball players play both offense and defense. I get that fouling is a tactic that is used but the progressive foul idea is not a good one. Sorry

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