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What a complete tool. Any parent who has any lacrosse knowledge or a descent coach can take a kid who is average athletically and make them into one of the better players in this age group.Over half the kids that make the black team will not be on that team by the time they are in 9 grade.The team a year older has kids who are more athletic and were more advanced at the same age, matter of fact the best 2020 player is on the 2019 probably because the coaches realize that younger group needs a lot of work and she would have no one of equal ability.My experience is that blow hards like you usually have no idea what they are talking about and their kids either burn out or are average at best.

Come on - is it really necessary to rip this team apart before they have even had a chance to play together? Many of these kids are young and this is their first time playing travel lax.

Do they not take uniform # requests from the girls? If so, that's a little strange, but a minor detail...anybody know?

26 on the roster does not make this parent happy. It was difficult last year with a smaller team getting playing time. Big question is who will be forced to play defense, hope it's not my kid.

Interesting to see what 2017 Black will bring this summer !
Some new studs added to roster but Still have some long time players who never excelled That i guess comes from loyalty to some of the parents who brown it up to the coach 24/7 and have been there from the start .explains why ... this is especially the fact on their defensive end of squad !

So your rant all started from these points that you feel are not reality:

1) The first year teams are attracting better and better talent each year.
>I've been with the club from the start and this is very true, every year the number and talent of the girls at tryouts increases.
2) It is getting more competitive and harder to make the black team each year.
>obviously this is true, more and better girls trying out = harder to get roster spot.
3) Club is building strong base at the younger team level.
>time will tell on that, but it sure looks like it.
4) The foot in the door by starting young is disappearing.
> with more and more kids and talent showing up each year this is also easy to see.

The only thing I can come up with here is that your daughter plays for a TG team and it is not her first year and you are overly competitive and will not accept the thought that the talent coming in could possibly be better than your daughters team. Another good guess from your comments is she plays on 2019, so this reaction does not suprise me because I have read all the thoughts and comment about this team from last year. Its been clearly documented that many of the parent from this team feel this was the best team ever to be put together in the history of travel lacrosse. Even if your daughter is not on that team, the general point that has you rattled is that TG is attracting more and better talent each year, well its not a personal jab at your daughter and her team, its a blanket statement that if you took a poll from people who have been involved with the club for several years, you would find most everyone would agree.

Actually my problem is with the most either have it or not it cannot be taught or trained when you are talking about 2020 kids is just ignorant. My experience with parents like you is they are usually compensating for a child who is average at best.

Keep in mind that a lot of it is started by the same couple of people, some of whom are not TG members.

Of course it cost a girl a roster spot, even if she was the last girl to make the team she deserves the shot to prove herself. And no sage she didn't play last year in any capacity on any team. She should have been put on purple until SHE can prove that she can play at that level after taking a full year off. The girl that now is on purple, wether the last girl chosen or not got robbed and deserves the shot. But being from E.I. has it's advantages.

The number of participants in this discussion is much larger than you would believe - several dozen.

Actually my problem is with the most either have it or not it cannot be taught or trained when you are talking about 2020 kids is just ignorant. My experience with parents like you is they are usually compensating for a child who is average at best.

Truth hurts.

Interesting to see what 2017 Black will bring this summer !
Some new studs added to roster but Still have some long time players who never excelled That i guess comes from loyalty to some of the parents who brown it up to the coach 24/7 and have been there from the start .explains why ... this is especially the fact on their defensive end of squad !

Hi,

WOW, I just jumped on tonight because I heard the rosters were posted. I was happy to see the positive posts about the 2020 teams . I am also saddened to hear all of the negative conversations about 9 and 10 year olds and there parents.

Let me put the information that I know as fact in reguards to the 2020 TG team that was entered into the Hofstra tournament. The father that entered the team IMO had nothing but good intentions and nothing was done to slight any of the other FAMILIES from the 2020 Black team. Yes I said FAMILIES because I know we will spend countless hours over the next 10 months together forming friendships and relationships for the good of our children.

It is from those friendships that the Hofstra team was put together. My daughter played on the 2019 Purple team last summer. It was there that friendships were created. Three of the girls that played Purple were fortunate enough to make the Black. As the emails went out for invitations to the 2020 Black we exchanged congradulations to the KIDS for their accomplishments.

Now having played and practices side by side all of last year with the 2019 Black team many friendships were made young and old. Last years Black team had at least seven (I may be off by one) 4th graders playing "up" . The father simply reached out to the group of girls that played last year on the two teams because we all knew each other.

Not too long after the emails went out my daughter was asked if she wanted to keep her stick in her hand and play in the Hofstra fundraiser tournament. Please keep in mind that this is a parent going out of his way to volunteer his time to coordinate putting a group of 9&10 year old friends together to help Support Shannon Smith in her first year as a D 1 Head Coach.

By no means do I think for a second that my daughter is one of the "golden children" asked to play. She was mearly a kid that got together with a group of friends and played on a Saturday in the Fall. Was the decision to play as a TG team a mistake ? I guess so ! I do know that it was not done to hurt any 9 & 10 year olds feelings .I am sure that when indoor starts the girls will all find there place on the team . I know from my experience last year they all started off scared and shy and by the end of the season in July they were best friends begging to have sleep overs in the hotels!

We all have our kids best intentions in mind when we agreed to allow them to play on the TG team in the tournament.I know I did. There are many more tornaments in the fall. Perhaps a phone call to Bill Smith would go a long way as far as giving every roster spot a shot at playing together! The more the better in my opinion. if all 24 girls are interested two teams of twelve can be made!

I hope this subject can be put to bed and better time can be put into help create a TEAM BOND that will grow as the years pass and our girls develop as athletes and young ladies. I have a daughter starting her 3rd year on the 2015 Purple team and have seen the girls grow as players and human beings I hope we all can say the same for this group of girls but it all starts from US the PARENTS. A little communication will go a long way so lets get together with Bill and see if we can get everyone from the 2020 Black roster involved in the next Hofstra tournament!

I look forward to meeting all of you as the team gets together this winter! I hope you all feel the same. If this team is anything like last years 5th grade Black team we are in for a very talanted group of girls playing a game that THEY love to play. If we can put all of this drama to bed now and keep it to ourselves and not allow it to become something the girls are involved in the potential for great things is there.

Good Night, Jim Lang

Jim,

Very well said. At the time of the Hofstra tournament, only the kids that played together last year on either of the 2019 teams or kids that played in the same town programs were known entities of who would be on the TG 2020 Black team. Several kids were already committed to playing on a separate team "Lady Rebels" when this team was entered into that tournament. All of the girls that will be on the 2020 team got together before and after the game cheering each other on, catching up from the summer and even wishing one of the girls a happy birthday. So, for anyone to think that there was anomosity between the girls is completely wrong.

At the end of the day, we all have options to play for whatever program we choose to have our kids try out for.

Yes, tournament teams have become very competitive
Yes, there is competition between programs
Yes, kids at this age develop at different timess

Let's allow the kids to build friendships, play lacrosse at a competitive level and develop as great scholar athletes. We are all part of a Long Islanda Lacrosse family, like it or not. We should be focused on making sure that Long Island teams are well represented and be proud when we complete across the east coast. We would be much better served teaching our kids this amazing game rather than tear each other apart on this web site or any other for that matter.

Mike Natoli

Yes the kids and parents should move on but stop distorting the facts.If the way you went about entering this team was right way to go about it you would not need to be making stuff up.Curious how do you know several of the kids were already committed to play for another team, did you ask them to play ?

Glad to see that attention is being paid to the rosters from this top club.

I know it's early but are the TG's going to do the Syracuse tournament again, or look for a different one to attend?

I like the Syracuse tournament, not so much the drive though. The one to dump is the Delaware tournament. The parking pass issue is a joke, the hotels that the tournament sponsers assign, stink. You get back from fields late and they rent your room out from under you. Then you have a million yj teams there and no games scheduled between yj and tg. They should drop that one and go back to best of the beach.

I'm new to the club. Was looking forward to visiting with family upstate while doing the Syracuse Tournament. Any reason why they wouldn't be doing this tournament again?