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I am blue collar on the North side of town, it's called working with your kid in the back yard, going to burns doing 4 or 5 buckets of balls, push ups, sit ups, sprints, all free. Determination, hard work and talent will get you a D1 player, Money will get u on Express A team, sitting on the bench.

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the real question not be answered on here and it is the only important question that needs to be answered is who has the best pizza and the best bagels?


Exactly....

Time to get Pequa and Syosset back in the mix...!!!

Huntington has awesome pizza: Gino's and Portofino.

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I am blue collar on the North side of town, it's called working with your kid in the back yard, going to burns doing 4 or 5 buckets of balls, push ups, sit ups, sprints, all free. Determination, hard work and talent will get you a D1 player, Money will get u on Express A team, sitting on the bench.


Are you north of Sunrise? North of the RR tracks? North of Montauk?

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Manhasset has better pizza AND lax Plandome road has at least 2 superior joints

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What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

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Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.


This is true in most places, though less true on Long Island and in Upstate New [lacrosse].


Blue towns have closed the gap - but lax ( esp boys) is still ruled by the yuppies
Dads on sidelines standing in loafers with no socks - freshly ironed polo shirts, shorts with alama mater visors covering the receding hair line reminiscing about back in the day

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Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.


This is true in most places, though less true on Long Island and in Upstate New [lacrosse].


Blue towns have closed the gap - but lax ( esp boys) is still ruled by the yuppies
Dads on sidelines standing in loafers with no socks - freshly ironed polo shirts, shorts with alama mater visors covering the receding hair line reminiscing about back in the day


That is so true, and hysterical! Love the receding hairline part!!!

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As opposed to the heroes in the sleeveless black tshirt gym shorts and those awesome New Balance sneakers. Don't forget the Oakley orange shades and the kicking pony tail. Yeah that look is a winner.

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What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster


This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

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I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
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And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

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Amen brother

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What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster


This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.

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My grad 2019 son has committed to a top 20 school. The program lists their commits and he is one of only 3 kids not coming from a prep school/academy in 2017/2018/2019. Just a fact.

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What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster


This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.


Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

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Manhasset has better pizza AND lax Plandome road has at least 2 superior joints


Let's remember..

This past spring, Manhasset lost to the team, that lost to the team, that lost to the team that won the NYS Championship. I guess that means there good.

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My grad 2019 son has committed to a top 20 school. The program lists their commits and he is one of only 3 kids not coming from a prep school/academy in 2017/2018/2019. Just a fact.


Let's hear it for affirmative action!

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I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

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And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.


Wow! You are setting the bar pretty low with that boast.

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LOl...Not this year Scotty's got some ringers coming up..
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I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
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And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.


Wow! You are setting the bar pretty low with that boast.


it was meant as a joke, but, being better then WI is setting the bar pretty high IMHO, great great lacrosse tradition. This was a lacrosse statement nothing to do with your flatulence oops i'm sorry your affluence.

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What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster


This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.


Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.


I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI

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LOl...Not this year Scotty's got some ringers coming up..
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I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

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Sorry, ringers or not, WI doesnt get anywhere near the Suffolk championship. Ward Melville and Smithtown East are both loaded

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We here that every year about SE

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Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see. [/quote]

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI [/quote]

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

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Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.


I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI [/quote]

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If " [/quote]

So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's.

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Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.


I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country


and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI


If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If " [/quote]

So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's. [/quote]


Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16??

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Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.


I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country


and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI


If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If "


So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's. [/quote]


Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16?? [/quote]

yes a late sept ,oct or nov 2000 birthday . my 2020 is 13 wont turn 14 till end of nov

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Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16?? [/quote]

My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem?

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We shall see...we play better when challenged... keep it up...
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Sorry, ringers or not, WI doesnt get anywhere near the Suffolk championship. Ward Melville and Smithtown East are both loaded

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just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

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Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16??


My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem? [/quote]

Most on-age seniors will start the year at 17 and end at 18.

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My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem? [/quote]

Your kidding right? Every boy in his class is the same age. You need to get a grip. I was 18 when I graduated HS, same age as my son will be, Spring birthday. Sorry jerk, neither I nor my son was a hold back. Now I see the problem, your Senior is a wisp of a lad whose birthday is in the fall, therefore he is a tad on the young side, you and the husband had the option of going either way, you put him up, your fault not mine or anyone else's. You prince is YOUNG for his grade, see the problem?

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This age discussion regarding high school teams seems out of place considering that high school teams cover four, if not five, years of boys. The debate is applicable for travel teams, where there is at least a tacit attempt to have like-aged boys play against each other. But, high school? Welcome to the real world!

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just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing


Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

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her son will be one of those mysterious transfers ....the blessing line is a dead give away

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just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing


Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.


My son committed in Sophomore year, and I agree with poster above regarding the pressure of the process. It is tough on the kid and the family. Total roller coaster ride. Some of these Coaches are not "decent" guys. They put these kids through the ringer. Some really showed their true colors and we're thankful our son is not playing for some of them. However, as with everything in life your son has new pressures to deal with. Keeping the grades up, keeping the skills up, continuing to play at a high level against the best competition. Many kids also feel like they have to "live up to" their D1 commit status in every game they play. They also must continue to stay out of trouble and away from issues that plague all young people. Oh and then your new College Coaches continue to watch you play. So you still need to perform. It's not easy for these kids. Much to manage and stay on top of.

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what you seem to miss is that alot of kids do a PG year at a Prep school, if they go to D1 lax school they most likely will use the Prep school they attended as the HS rather then the public school.

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just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing


Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.


My son committed in Sophomore year, and I agree with poster above regarding the pressure of the process. It is tough on the kid and the family. Total roller coaster ride. Some of these Coaches are not "decent" guys. They put these kids through the ringer. Some really showed their true colors and we're thankful our son is not playing for some of them. However, as with everything in life your son has new pressures to deal with. Keeping the grades up, keeping the skills up, continuing to play at a high level against the best competition. Many kids also feel like they have to "live up to" their D1 commit status in every game they play. They also must continue to stay out of trouble and away from issues that plague all young people. Oh and then your new College Coaches continue to watch you play. So you still need to perform. It's not easy for these kids. Much to manage and stay on top of.


my son had the option to commit pre freshman year and opted not to, didn't have a clue on what or where ?? Still doesn't. And yes, he will graduate at the at of 17.

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just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing


Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.


did not mean to imply that he "kicked back"...on the contrary; he worked even harder to prove that he deserved that spot. He had an academic incentive to achieve as well by the coach. there was no kicking back. He played fall, winter spring and summer ball since he committed. He def subscribes to the "the only easy day was yesterday" mentality and loves the challenge.

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Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

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Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?


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