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Re: Complaint Department
Anonymous #170584 06/15/16 09:58 AM
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I saw some of the worst officiating this weekend in Maryland. Completely biased, inconsistent, and sometimes outright wrong interpretations of the rules. For such a hot bed of lacrosse, you would think they could come up with better officials.


Yea. Long Island officials are great. They aren't biased. Stand on midline and don't move for anyone.


The officiating at the youth lacrosse level is just atrocious no matter where its played. Not much better at the high school level either. Seems to get marginally better at the NCAA level but still pretty bad
. There's been an obvious explosive level of growth in lacrosse, from summer travel tournaments, etc. to just generally speaking, and unfortunately the quantity and quality of officiating hasn't kept up.

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks


Up by 12 vs kids 2 years younger late in the game....call off the dogs. No justifiable reason that the goalie should be running length of the field. Result sucks for the kid that he is out for weeks, but sounds like the team will be weaker moving forward cause they had to pile on.

And before anyone gets their panties in a bunch -- I'm not saying anyone targetted the goalie, or he deserved it individually. Coach should know better. Bring in the backups and drain the clock.

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks


Up by 12 vs kids 2 years younger late in the game....call off the dogs. No justifiable reason that the goalie should be running length of the field. Result sucks for the kid that he is out for weeks, but sounds like the team will be weaker moving forward cause they had to pile on.

Tournament that allows that matchup should be subject to a lawsuit for stupidity and the coach who sends the goalie should recall Mark Sanchez and Jason Seahorn stupidity!
And before anyone gets their panties in a bunch -- I'm not saying anyone targetted the goalie, or he deserved it individually. Coach should know better. Bring in the backups and drain the clock.

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The Hop #171124 06/19/16 03:58 PM
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Anyone else have issues with Waze coming home this weekend

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks


Sound like lots of stupidity to go around. Feel bad for the kid that got hurt, but really call the dogs off. No goalie should be running the length trying to score (ESPECIALLY in a blow out vs younger kids)
BTW, what tournament had a matchup like this?

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You want to blame WAZE when there is no way to avoid the traffic on a beautiful beach day and with Father's Day on top of that? She saved me by driving me around back off route 110 Saturday.

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I never approve of dangerous play but this goalie got hurt because he was playing for a TOOL of a coach.

On the girls side its worse, up by 10 and 1 girl has 8 goals and still going to the cage (because that's what her dad keeps yelling) and they wonder why girls are swinging sticks at her ?

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks


Sound like lots of stupidity to go around. Feel bad for the kid that got hurt, but really call the dogs off. No goalie should be running the length trying to score (ESPECIALLY in a blow out vs younger kids)
BTW, what tournament had a matchup like this?


Majority of the blame goes to HC of travel team who was overwhelming a younger town squad in a one sided affair

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the 2018 travel team was beating the 2019/2020 town team by 12, 2018 sent the goalie to score late in the game. goalie gets leveled by a middie injured out for weeks with a shoulder injury. middie gets a 2 min penelty. the questions are who is to blame? who is in the wrong? discuss. thanks


Sound like lots of stupidity to go around. Feel bad for the kid that got hurt, but really call the dogs off. No goalie should be running the length trying to score (ESPECIALLY in a blow out vs younger kids)
BTW, what tournament had a matchup like this?


Majority of the blame goes to HC of travel team who was overwhelming a younger town squad in a one sided affair


Why does there have to be any blame?
The goalie saw an opportunity and took it. They were on the field playing a game and they were playing it as they should.
Unfortunate injury but it sometimes happens.

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The refs are mostly too old and can't or won't run in the summer heat - and it hasn't been overwhelmingly hot this year so far. Refs are routinely making calls from 40-50 yards away. There needs to be a greater effort to get younger guys in their. One young guy (I am guessing early 30s) yesterday was excellent. Ran his [lacrosse] off, and was very authoritative and vocal explaining his calls. Always on top of the play, and even when he got something "wrong", parents didn't say anything because the guy was giving it 100% and was getting everything else right.

Its very frustrating for me to see an obvious wrong call (or wrong non-call) when I, on the sideline, are MUCH closer to the play than the ref is. A big one, at the younger levels, is the stick on stick, and then the ball carrier falls. That should never be a push, but from 40 yards away its impossible to tell and often these refs are blowing the whistle. Its confusing to a 10 year old who thinks he made a proper check and made a real effort to stay off the kid's back.

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The refs are mostly too old and can't or won't run in the summer heat - and it hasn't been overwhelmingly hot this year so far. Refs are routinely making calls from 40-50 yards away. There needs to be a greater effort to get younger guys in their. One young guy (I am guessing early 30s) yesterday was excellent. Ran his [lacrosse] off, and was very authoritative and vocal explaining his calls. Always on top of the play, and even when he got something "wrong", parents didn't say anything because the guy was giving it 100% and was getting everything else right.

Its very frustrating for me to see an obvious wrong call (or wrong non-call) when I, on the sideline, are MUCH closer to the play than the ref is. A big one, at the younger levels, is the stick on stick, and then the ball carrier falls. That should never be a push, but from 40 yards away its impossible to tell and often these refs are blowing the whistle. Its confusing to a 10 year old who thinks he made a proper check and made a real effort to stay off the kid's back.


Does NCLOA / SCLOA encourage teams to rate the officials at their games? This could be a step in the right direction if it doesn't exist today. Give positive feedback for the young guy doing it right & give poor feedback for the guy who is making the call from across the field.


This is probably an issue across all sports, not just lacrosse.

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The refs are mostly too old and can't or won't run in the summer heat - and it hasn't been overwhelmingly hot this year so far. Refs are routinely making calls from 40-50 yards away. There needs to be a greater effort to get younger guys in their. One young guy (I am guessing early 30s) yesterday was excellent. Ran his [lacrosse] off, and was very authoritative and vocal explaining his calls. Always on top of the play, and even when he got something "wrong", parents didn't say anything because the guy was giving it 100% and was getting everything else right.

Its very frustrating for me to see an obvious wrong call (or wrong non-call) when I, on the sideline, are MUCH closer to the play than the ref is. A big one, at the younger levels, is the stick on stick, and then the ball carrier falls. That should never be a push, but from 40 yards away its impossible to tell and often these refs are blowing the whistle. Its confusing to a 10 year old who thinks he made a proper check and made a real effort to stay off the kid's back.


Does NCLOA / SCLOA encourage teams to rate the officials at their games? This could be a step in the right direction if it doesn't exist today. Give positive feedback for the young guy doing it right & give poor feedback for the guy who is making the call from across the field.


This is probably an issue across all sports, not just lacrosse.


But nothing will change, there are not enough referee's as it is. Check the web site, they are always looking for refs. Who has the time to ref a game at 3:00 on a Tuesday during the school year? It is a tough job to fill. You can rank them as poorly as you want they will be there anyways.

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The Hop #171859 06/21/16 02:08 PM
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Listen people. Unless we all start putting in complaints to the attorney general of New [lacrosse] the scam will continue to take place. These teams are taking our money without any type of contract and can pretty much bend the rules how they see fit. Would you give a contractor 3k without a contract of the work that would be done? No way. Travel lax has gotten so big on Long Island that there needs to be some regulation or we will continue to be ripped off

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Listen people. Unless we all start putting in complaints to the attorney general of New [lacrosse] the scam will continue to take place. These teams are taking our money without any type of contract and can pretty much bend the rules how they see fit. Would you give a contractor 3k without a contract of the work that would be done? No way. Travel lax has gotten so big on Long Island that there needs to be some regulation or we will continue to be ripped off


This is the stupidest thing ever written.

We need to be protected from the big bad travel lacrosse organizations. "Please Mr. Schneiderman, stop tracking down corrupt politicians and make sure I get the RP3 head that they promised my son with his tuition."

Just so stupid.

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