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Re: Long Island Top Guns Lacrosse
Anonymous #1547 06/08/11 07:43 AM
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You get what you pay for....if you want real coaching got to YJ
You must like throwing your money away. The coaches on the Yellow Jackets are the fathers of the players. All they know is Boys Lacrosse. I guess that's why there girl are so wild with their sticks.

Are you refferring to guys like Defilese,Mitchell and Carro? If so, I will take my chances with those "boys" coaches. Three of the best in the business!!
Must be the reason why Newsday just did a big article about helmets for the girls, Lack of stick control.

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Anonymous #1548 06/08/11 07:47 AM
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You get what you pay for....if you want real coaching got to YJ
You must like throwing your money away. The coaches on the Yellow Jackets are the fathers of the players. All they know is Boys Lacrosse. I guess that's why there girl are so wild with their sticks.

Are you refferring to guys like Defilese,Mitchell and Carro? If so, I will take my chances with those "boys" coaches. Three of the best in the business!!
Must be the reason why Newsday just did a big article about helmets for the girls, Lack of stick control.

Yes I read it, but I didn't read anything about the "boys" Yellow Jacket promoting stick swinging!

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Anonymous #1549 06/08/11 08:17 AM
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You get what you pay for....if you want real coaching got to YJ
You must like throwing your money away. The coaches on the Yellow Jackets are the fathers of the players. All they know is Boys Lacrosse. I guess that's why there girl are so wild with their sticks.

Are you refferring to guys like Defilese,Mitchell and Carro? If so, I will take my chances with those "boys" coaches. Three of the best in the business!!
Must be the reason why Newsday just did a big article about helmets for the girls, Lack of stick control.

Yes I read it, but I didn't read anything about the "boys" Yellow Jacket promoting stick swinging!
I think the point trying to be said is that if a girlsí team is coached by men that played Menís Lacrosse, there skills and trait would be leaned by the girls, i.e. stick slapping and going to the cage regardless of obstruction. The point is that these coaches never played the sport they are coaching and will never understand the differences. Thatís why there is such a big push for helmets which I believe do not belong in girlís lacrosse.

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Anonymous #1590 06/09/11 10:56 AM
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To add to this point, this is why I think and a few HS coaches for girlsí lacrosse that I have talk to over the past two years feel itís not a helmet issue. Itís the stick skills of the girls they need to improve. When the girls get to HS they need to be re-trained. Their coaches in the youth organization really donít know the rules or skills of the game. Iím not talking about the coaches from the clubs but I do think thatís why there is the appeal towards the Top Guns and there coaches. These girls play the game and know the rules.

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Anonymous #1595 06/10/11 11:16 AM
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Not really. It is not appealing to have lazy college
Kids with no sense of responsibility running a team.

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don't have a child in either of the two programs being discussed here , but will say that daughter did attend a top guns camp and the girls in question were anything but lazy. In fact all the college girls were super.daughter learned many new techniques and the girls did not stop training all day. So might be a bit unfair to call these girls lazy.

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Not too many "lazy college kids with no sense of responsibility" that I know of who have won several National Championships, the Tewaaraton and Honda Award.

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YJ's are in a catch22 here. They can take credit for having helped these lazy college kids aspire as the most successful girl's lacrosse players to ever come off of Long Island. But in doing so they are also admitting that another club has special talent, and that's not good for business. All of you who are bashing these girls should be ashamed of yourselves. Grow up, wish them luck and move on.

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YJ's are in a catch22 here. They can take credit for having helped these lazy college kids aspire as the most successful girl's lacrosse players to ever come off of Long Island. But in doing so they are also admitting that another club has special talent, and that's not good for business. All of you who are bashing these girls should be ashamed of yourselves. Grow up, wish them luck and move on.


Again, the best way to put the matter to rest is by winning. Lets see how the top gun teams do this summer as compared to YJ or Express or 91 Lacrosse. If they win a championship at every event they can shut everyone up

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success

Calling them lazy is rediculous. These girls didn't become great players by being lazy! The biggest issue with having college players as the primary coaches the way Top Gun does is AVAILABILITY. They can't be coaching the team until June, While most of the top YJ teams are practicing all winter and spring as a team. I also think even though the giirls are great players and can teach much of the skill portion, they probably have much to learn about game coaching. It takes a lot of experience to be an all around great coach. Either way good luck to all the girls, no matter what club they play for.

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success


I believe the 9th grade team lost in the semi finals

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success


I believe the 9th grade team lost in the semi finals


Guess they have to get some more out of state players for their team

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success
I believe the 9th grade team lost in the semi finals
Overall results for the Top Guns at the All American Showcase.

The 2013 Black went 1W-2L-0T in group play in the SR-A Open Elite bracket.

The 2014 Black went 3W-0L-0T in the SR-B Elite group and lost in the semifinals 13-4.

The 2014 Purple team was 3W-0L-0T in the SR-B Platinum grouping and lost the final match 9-3.

The 2015 Black was 3W-0L-0T in the SR-B Select group winning the semifinal 9-3 and the finals 9-7.

The 2016 team won their three group play games (18-3, 12-8, 13-9) and then lost in the semifinals to BBL Elite Widcats (10-1).

The 2017 Black went 2W-0L-1T in group play in the MS Elite group. This group won their semifinal match and appear to have lost in the finals.

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Well here some proof most of the Top Gun teams won at the All American Showcase. Can't knock success


I believe the 9th grade team lost in the semi finals


Guess they have to get some more out of state players for their team


Watching several games at the All American Showcase I was impressed on how well the girls for the Top Guns played as a team. Sure there were one or two girls that stood out but they did not rely on them to win. It was a team effort that won. All the girls on the Top Guns teams had equal skills and could play the game. No, their coaches are not ďLazyĒ This pasted weekend shows there is some valor to the Top Guns Organization and the person who blog that statement should retract it. It was notIntelligent on his/her part to print that. As far as the availability of the coaches I donít think any of the parents or players seem to mind. They all know that an education come first and there was always a qualified coach in the winter and early spring.

Now for the 9th grade team statement, the Top Guns have two 9th grade 2015 teams and one of them won the championship. Your statement shows the immaturity you bring to the game. Grow up it seems your kids are more mature than you.

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