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How can anyone judge whether a team should or should not be in an elite division when they were just beaten by a team full of holdbacks? It's like being beaten by your older brother's friends. Silly to gloat about beating younger kids.

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You sound like another grumpy Madlax Capital 2020 parent who still believes that Madlax can compete with the other HOCO elite teams. The results are in and Madlax got blown out by both NL and Hawks. Madlax also had a chance to compete for the last elite HOCO spot and didn't. NL isn't good? They won the Madlax fall tournament including beating 3D Pacific in the finals. NL beat MDX, Cannons in the HOCO play in and CB, fl$ and RR in a March tournament. You should stop trying to slam other 2020 clubs and take a hard look at the Madlax team. I know its hard to accept the reality of paying Madlax $$ with the promise of having an "elite" team. Maybe you should ask for a refund or have your kid try out for another team.


No, NL is good, but not elite or great - that is the difference. The MadLax fall tourney had ok/average/above average teams there - such as the ones you mention (MDX, Cannons( - they are also good but not elite. NL is not elite, not even close, as I'm sure you saw yesterday at the first HoCo game where it was like a shooting practice for the Crabs. They got destroyed, hands down, in every aspect of the game, 10-1 - and Crabd basically stopped shooting second half. Could have been 20+. Bottom line - NL does NOT belong in elite, that are not anywhere near the same caliber as Looneys Orange or Crabs.


Let it play out. Half of Crabs is made up of kids a year or two older. Of course they were going to win - it is ridiculous to expect otherwise as the growth in boys between 13/14 and 15/16 is huge. . The poster mentions Looneys- they only beat Hawks by 1 so coukd have been either team. . Take Crabs out of the equation with their older players and the other teams were 1 point games this weekend - any week it could be anyone's games as these teams have flip flopped for years. Just ignore Crabs - they are necessary evil because hoco are hold back supporters and did no follow their own rules by disallowing them as thy are certainly not normal ages for the grade so now everyone is left playing a high school team. Let's see how NL does in the coming weeks. Give them a chance.

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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.

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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.

Madlax is not 2020 is not even playing in HOCO this year.

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You are a complete idiot thinking Madlax 2020 would have a prayer competing with the HOCO elite teams this year. Yes the Crabs should easily win every game due to having older players. It is creepy seeing the Crabs 2020 team play and having such older/larger players than any other team. Who will Madlax 2020 play this spring when all the other good regional 2020 teams play in the HOCO elite/AA league? At best Madlax 2020 will have to wait until the June/July tournaments to play but should be in the "A" division as they're totally outclassed this year.

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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.


Dammit you made me LOL and spit my coffee out on my laptop - AGAIN!

I'm not sure how many times you were dropped on your head as a child, but Madlax 2020 isn't even in the conversation. I'm not a CRABS dad, just an observer of the game. Madlax would get [lacrosse] slapped and Cabell would lose his voice by the second game.

CRABS is a high school team masquerading as 2020. Period. End of story. If they don't win the league and roll teams like they did NL this past weekend, RM should hang up his coaching credentials and quit lacrosse.

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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.

Madlax is not 2020 is not even playing in HOCO this year.


I guess you don't know how to read. I already said Madlax 2020 is not playing HoCO. That's why it's up for grabs now.

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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.


Dammit you made me LOL and spit my coffee out on my laptop - AGAIN!

I'm not sure how many times you were dropped on your head as a child, but Madlax 2020 isn't even in the conversation. I'm not a CRABS dad, just an observer of the game. Madlax would get [lacrosse] slapped and Cabell would lose his voice by the second game.

CRABS is a high school team masquerading as 2020. Period. End of story. If they don't win the league and roll teams like they did NL this past weekend, RM should hang up his coaching credentials and quit lacrosse.


RM's coaching credentials are a total joke, just go to Crabs website and see his lacrosse bio. He has a weak lax IQ, thus the older/bigger players so he can win, because his coaching ability won't do it.

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How do you explain the success of the Crabs pre-age based teams?

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Looks like HoCo is just getting it over with, championship game early:

Sat 4/16/16 10:30am Looney's - Orange vs. Crabs Boy's Latin School

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Homer game for RM. Refs probably on the take.

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Homer game for RM. Refs probably on the take.


The fact that you say that shows what an absolute idiot you are. No lacrosse official cares who wins the game.

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How do you explain the success of the Crabs pre-age based teams?


Simple, other coaches were running the teams, not RM.

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How do you explain the success of the Crabs pre-age based teams?


Simple, other coaches were running the teams, not RM.

There where less teams 3 to 5 years ago. They got all the top players. Now the top players like to spread out some to get more run/fame/shots/ love from owner.

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How do you explain the success of the Crabs pre-age based teams?


Simple, other coaches were running the teams, not RM.


Wrong. He was just as involved then as he is now. If you dislike him, that's fine. But at least say reasonably accurate things instead of lies or guesses.

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Anything positive to say about these 8th grade teams?

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.

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Yes. Some of the best young lacrosse players in the country in one league. With the exception of Crabs faux 8th grade team all of the games should be competitive. Too bad greed ruins the experience.

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Is that a given in 2017--age-based teams across the board?

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Guess this is kinda positive...

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When do the Crabs teams get so age heavy? If you look at the 5th and 6th grade teams the Crabs boys look appropriate for their age? Do they shed boys or push them down a grade in 7th and 8th grade? Is this something that the Baltimore private schools foster? Are they the ones really advocating for the boys to hold back? Seems like they would be just as at fault as the Crabs organization?

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Yes. Some of the best young lacrosse players in the country in one league. With the exception of Crabs faux 8th grade team all of the games should be competitive. Too bad greed ruins the experience.
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When do the Crabs teams get so age heavy? If you look at the 5th and 6th grade teams the Crabs boys look appropriate for their age? Do they shed boys or push them down a grade in 7th and 8th grade? Is this something that the Baltimore private schools foster? Are they the ones really advocating for the boys to hold back? Seems like they would be just as at fault as the Crabs organization?


- 8th grade seems to be the big year where kids will repeat at another private school before moving on to high school.

- Yes, at 5th and 6th grade they are usually a very good team, but on par with the others in their age group. Then the fun begins as more and more holdbacks are added, but of course, that has nothing to do with their success.

- Kids who are smaller or on-age get displaced by incoming holdbacks. Using Crab logic, they are actually doing those kids a favor since they will have to try out against older kids in high school! Also, holdbacks beget more holdbacks - there is a trickle-down effect.

- The Baltimore private schools know exactly what's going on, kids move between schools and back again. Also, it's a pretty small community, all of the student athletes know each other and know exactly who's repeated, when, and where.

- I don't think the schools advocate for it, but I doubt they discourage it either, it allows them to tout their athletic prowess, which helps with recruiting and keeps the alumni happy.

Q: How do you make the Crabs 2025 team?
A: Start on the 2024 team.


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League is a fraud this year. Crabs will probably win it since Madlax 2020 is going the free agent route this spring. Championship is now up for grabs.

Madlax is not 2020 is not even playing in HOCO this year.


I guess you don't know how to read. I already said Madlax 2020 is not playing HoCO. That's why it's up for grabs now.


LOL! So true - they definitely would have given Crabs and the others a run for their money - I'm sure they just had a bad day at Spring Madness...hahaha

They would have struggled in the A division of HoCo - better that they "self selected" ;-)

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Wrong - Every other league run by Howard County is U15, U13, U11, U9 in which kids play with kids a full year older or a full year younger - the same difference you are complaining constantly about in the Grade based club league with all these supposed holdbacks.

If there was U15, U14, U13, U12, etc. in the other county leagues, I would have some sympathy for you, but one is no worse than the other.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Wrong - Every other league run by Howard County is U15, U13, U11, U9 in which kids play with kids a full year older or a full year younger - the same difference you are complaining constantly about in the Grade based club league with all these supposed holdbacks.

If there was U15, U14, U13, U12, etc. in the other county leagues, I would have some sympathy for you, but one is no worse than the other.


Teams were mixed within the age level which evens things out and teams with mostly younger kids have option to play in B with teams that are mainly the younger grade. Teams had/have choices and now only the special teams chummy with hoco and the tourney promoters set the rules and others are forced to deal with the results.There is absolutely no excuse for why hoco is allowing teams to break their own rule except that they forgot they put that rule in there. Nobody is looking for sympathy - just some legitimacy behind a league that does not follow their own rules and has a hundred excuses why and not one of them is about doing the right thing.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Bingo- can't be relied upon to fix it if you are a member of the private school holdback system.,

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Wrong - Every other league run by Howard County is U15, U13, U11, U9 in which kids play with kids a full year older or a full year younger - the same difference you are complaining constantly about in the Grade based club league with all these supposed holdbacks.

If there was U15, U14, U13, U12, etc. in the other county leagues, I would have some sympathy for you, but one is no worse than the other.


You must be a Crab parent or a Howard County Recreation employee with that logic. "U" stands for under . The next thing is called a number (15,13,11, etc). So meaning is UNDER (15,13,etc) ...That means it is age based. No one gets a select advantage for being older. Everyone gets to be the "oldest" at one time. Not like the Holdback/prefirst crowd who somehow think that their child is entitled to be the oldest player always thru their entire YOUTH playing days.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Wrong - Every other league run by Howard County is U15, U13, U11, U9 in which kids play with kids a full year older or a full year younger - the same difference you are complaining constantly about in the Grade based club league with all these supposed holdbacks.

If there was U15, U14, U13, U12, etc. in the other county leagues, I would have some sympathy for you, but one is no worse than the other.


You must be a Crab parent or a Howard County Recreation employee with that logic. "U" stands for under . The next thing is called a number (15,13,11, etc). So meaning is UNDER (15,13,etc) ...That means it is age based. No one gets a select advantage for being older. Everyone gets to be the "oldest" at one time. Not like the Holdback/prefirst crowd who somehow think that their child is entitled to be the oldest player always thru their entire YOUTH playing days.

Not the guy you are talking to. But I think he was referring to the two ages per group. So yes there is a U for under but then there is a two year gap.(U15-U13) So the only way to make it a one age peer level is to have a U15,U14,U13,and a U12. This would be the most fair. But when you have the U15 to U13 gap you only stop the double holdbacks. Which will clean this issue up some. But you will still have the repeat 8th grader playing in the spring with his club. Not playing with his high schools JV team like all the correct no cheating kids.

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The AA divisions are on age kids and competition is good, but I wish they could have been grouped better. VLC, FCA white, and MDX are all way higher than most in their bracket and it would have been better grouping them all together instead of mixed in with teams like HoCo pink and 3D. They did not do a true tier of the brackets for some reason. I suppose it's not obvious to everyone though.

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The argument to make it grade based two years ago was to do more teams. But the question was never answered: why not just do one year age based teams?

Like another poster wrote, the U-11, U-13 and U-15 did put kids a year older out there, but in that system every kid gets to be the older kid once. With grade based it just created a permanent imbalance between parents who can afford to shelve their kids in private schools for a repeat year versus the families who decided to not do it or could not afford it. That isn't a good way to administer a youth sport.

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Look - without holdbacks the Crabs are NOT any better than any of the other teams in HOCO elite. Get over it. If HOCO were actually to enforce their rules Crabs would not be able to field their holdback lineup. From the HOCO rulebook:

The Conference follows a grade based system based on the player’s current grade level and assuming normal progression of school to graduation.

Wish someone would post the name of the Howard County employee, who is said to be in management with the County, most likely Rec and Parks. This individual is stated to be in tight with one of the elite 2020 teams and it is stated it is Crabs. This is how Crabs was able to circumvent the in place HOCO rules.
If anyone knows who this individual is, post their name or at least their initials. This person needs to be called out and see if there is the possibility to take it above this persons grade level and have them explain why the HOCO rules for grade base was not followed.
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There is nothing NORMAL about the progression of the kids on their team. Gig is up in 2017.


With a rule like that, how is hoco justifying not doing anything about the holdbacks and double holdback? It is their rule! Guess their management is so tight with the offenders and since they also hold their kids back, never going to change. Anyone w those kids should be forced to forfeit every game. Let them play but let it be a forfeit and do not allow ANY holdbacks in any championship game.


HOCO is run by Public Howard County Recreation Department. These people know exactly what they are doing with this grade based league. Howard County should get an award for being a cesspool of an county for promoting this garbage. Every other league run by Howard County Rec is age base..U11, U12, U13, etc...
Obviously someone has ulterior motives and wants to get in good with private schools or clubs.


Wish someone would post the name of the Howard County employee, who is said to be in management with the County, most likely Rec and Parks. This individual is stated to be in tight with one of the elite 2020 teams and it is stated it is Crabs. This is how Crabs was able to circumvent the in place HOCO rules.
If anyone knows who this individual is, post their name or at least their initials. This person needs to be called out and see if there is the possibility to take it above this persons grade level and have them explain why the HOCO rules for grade base was not followed.
Anyone?

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Don't you loses get tired of posting about holdbacks 24x7?

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To all the parents and players that are knotted up inside over the holdback issue. It all goes away next year. My son is a 2019 player and look at how quiet that board is. All those kids care about is playing on their JV or Varsity teams. The kids are all lumped in together now and no one cares how old you are. 100 kids are committed out of the 2019 class. Some of them are holdbacks and some of them aren't. For the most part, the first kids that committed were the exceptionally big/strong/fast kids and in some cases, those kids were holdbacks and they are committed to the big D1 programs. My son tells me that it is all starting to balance out. Some kids are growing while getting better and some have stopped growing and are not getting better. The playing field is getting more and more level. The good news is that there are a ton of spots left and many of the top academic schools have not committed anyone yet. My worries about the holdback issue when my son was in 7th and 8th grade are a distant memory. My son is having fun, he loves playing for his HS team and he knows that his grades are really all that matters. He has had some good interaction with some good D1 programs that he is interested in. This summer is a big summer for him and his class. All the while, the playing field continues to level.
Enjoy it, it is flying by.

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Don't you loses get tired of posting about holdbacks 24x7?


Nope, never gets old.

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To all the parents and players that are knotted up inside over the holdback issue. It all goes away next year. My son is a 2019 player and look at how quiet that board is. All those kids care about is playing on their JV or Varsity teams. The kids are all lumped in together now and no one cares how old you are. 100 kids are committed out of the 2019 class. Some of them are holdbacks and some of them aren't. For the most part, the first kids that committed were the exceptionally big/strong/fast kids and in some cases, those kids were holdbacks and they are committed to the big D1 programs. My son tells me that it is all starting to balance out. Some kids are growing while getting better and some have stopped growing and are not getting better. The playing field is getting more and more level. The good news is that there are a ton of spots left and many of the top academic schools have not committed anyone yet. My worries about the holdback issue when my son was in 7th and 8th grade are a distant memory. My son is having fun, he loves playing for his HS team and he knows that his grades are really all that matters. He has had some good interaction with some good D1 programs that he is interested in. This summer is a big summer for him and his class. All the while, the playing field continues to level.
Enjoy it, it is flying by.

I concur with this post as well. My 2019 is growing and playing JV high school ball. And he is doing well. He is pumped for this summer in his words I am going to get so much better and make Varsity next year. He is on age for 2019. But checking in on this site and bringing up the hold back issue its hard not to think if we had held him back how much he would be killing it playing this spring with his top travel 2020 team.

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The AA divisions are on age kids and competition is good, but I wish they could have been grouped better. VLC, FCA white, and MDX are all way higher than most in their bracket and it would have been better grouping them all together instead of mixed in with teams like HoCo pink and 3D. They did not do a true tier of the brackets for some reason. I suppose it's not obvious to everyone though.


Hoco beat Team 91 platnum on sunday in the league at St Pauls. T91 touted itself before the season as being able to compete with the teams in the "elite" division. So go figure. Looks like the 2 hoco AA groupings are meant to be equal. Maybe the top 2 finishers in each group play a final 4 playoff?

BTW - plenty of spring/summer 2001 birthdays on the 2020 AA teams

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the parents and players that are knotted up inside over the holdback issue. It all goes away next year. My son is a 2019 player and look at how quiet that board is. All those kids care about is playing on their JV or Varsity teams. The kids are all lumped in together now and no one cares how old you are. 100 kids are committed out of the 2019 class. Some of them are holdbacks and some of them aren't. For the most part, the first kids that committed were the exceptionally big/strong/fast kids and in some cases, those kids were holdbacks and they are committed to the big D1 programs. My son tells me that it is all starting to balance out. Some kids are growing while getting better and some have stopped growing and are not getting better. The playing field is getting more and more level. The good news is that there are a ton of spots left and many of the top academic schools have not committed anyone yet. My worries about the holdback issue when my son was in 7th and 8th grade are a distant memory. My son is having fun, he loves playing for his HS team and he knows that his grades are really all that matters. He has had some good interaction with some good D1 programs that he is interested in. This summer is a big summer for him and his class. All the while, the playing field continues to level.
Enjoy it, it is flying by.

I concur with this post as well. My 2019 is growing and playing JV high school ball. And he is doing well. He is pumped for this summer in his words I am going to get so much better and make Varsity next year. He is on age for 2019. But checking in on this site and bringing up the hold back issue its hard not to think if we had held him back how much he would be killing it playing this spring with his top travel 2020 team.


Exactly why people hold their child back. It does give some..not all.. an advantage.There is no question about it. That is why it goes against all principles of fair play in youth athletics to base teams at the youth level on grade.And this is especially true in Mid Atlantic region where there is an epidemic of children held back at prefirst and then 8th grade. Youths with an extra year are overall better. All these shouting proponents of grade base teams just show their true character. Spin it anyway you want..They want an advantage that everyone does not get at youth level.

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