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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158382
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
same parents come on here and brag to no end when their sons team plays up and has success, but they play a team with some hold backs and get their [lacrosse]es handed to them they come on here bashing the hold backs.


I don't call 10 holdbacks "some" holdbacks plus 2 double holdbacks.
You do not have a clue what you are talking about. Everyone knows how they operate and know who the kids are who are the holdbacks and even know who the double holdbacks are. Wonder what it is like to be almost 16 years old and in the 8th grade.

Crabs are the cesspool of youth lacrosse, along with their leader Ryan McClernan and the parents. All just disgraceful.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158385
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Write down the kids and check in on them in 5 years then 10. I bet half will be doing summer prospect camps. Some will quit college. Some will never play at D1. College coaches don't wany anything to do with Maryland players

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158386
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We play for Crabs 2020..4 holdbacks on 6th grade team, 7 on 7th grade team, added 3 more from 2019 team for beachlax but they were then held back. Also picked up other holdbacks from tryout so 8th grade team definitely has 10+ holdbacks. We love our Crabs experience but can't deny pattern of increasing numbers of holdbacks as a competitive advantage. Is what it is.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158387
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its a fallacy to portray Crabs as having 10+ kids who were held back for "lacrosse reasons" or to stay on the team -- that is simply not true. What is true is that they are all in 8th grade, great kids and highly skilled lacrosse players.


Biggest laugh of the day- thank you.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158394
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Crabs 2020 does not have 10 holdbacks. Please.

Someone is jealous. Funny how Madlax 2020 has more holdbacks, but nobody says anything because they suck.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158400
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I can name your 12 holdbacks with initials if you'd like. Nah..no need to resort to your lows. Cheating or bending rules is part of sports. Eventually some coach or organization goes to far and then penalties roll down. Look at UNC basketball. They've been violating NCAA rules for years. Most don't know anything about it until it hits the press. UNC is about to get crushed with penalties. CRABS is youth lax that wants to keep the reputation of being best MD lax club. They are driving holdbacks to increase their chances.


Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158405
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Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158409
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


The 2 or 3 on our team are summer birthdays, nobody's switching schools to repeat a year and none of them have ever played on a 2019 team. To me that's a big difference.
So I guess you are saying a little bit of cheating is OK...Your loosing your point here real quick. Just because you don't like the guy does not mean he is a bigger cheater than everyone else....Just a cheater like everyone else. Is it cheating if it not against the rules? I am confused....


Summer birthdays did not game the system to play lacrosse and look better against younger kids. Summer birthdays are kids who are 30 days older than the Aug 31 school date and most for social reasons or speech delays etc (not so out of the norm for 5 year olds) and therefore start school a year later. They are not held back without academic reason for the sake of playing a sport. Most sports do have those kids play with their age as opposed to grade but the lacrosse gods pushed for all grade based - thank RM and his cohorts.

We play for one of the teams playing in the elite 2020 and have ONE hold back and it is a legitimate grade repeater - not for sports . We would miss him but would be okay if we went age based and lost him. One player does not make a team - 10 hold backs do change a team. Stop trying to say ALL the top teams are loaded to justify what you have done- they are not.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


Ironically this time there is a rule as part of Hoco's bylaws about grade or what would be considered the normal age for the grade and Hoco has chosen to ignore it.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158419
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


They broke a rule at beaxch lax...

"Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

Their holdbacks were in 8th grade playing on what was at the time, a 7th grade team.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158434
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


They broke a rule at beaxch lax...

"Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

Their holdbacks were in 8th grade playing on what was at the time, a 7th grade team.



RM admitted to it as well , pretty sad

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158445
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Crush took care of that in Denver. 19-8.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158451
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


You just don't get it, the idiotic response you posted proves it.
Crabs technically does not break the rules of grade base lacrosse, but they abuse it with a sh*t load of holdbacks. That was not the intent or spirit of grade base lacrosse.
You just fall into the scumbag category with Ryan M and the others.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


They broke a rule at beaxch lax...

"Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

Their holdbacks were in 8th grade playing on what was at the time, a 7th grade team.



RM admitted to it as well , pretty sad



Nice try. That was a summer event. Those kids on the team were all Rising 8th graders. If you dislike holdbacks, that's one thing. No rule was broken.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Show me the rule that the Crabs have broken. If it's a grade based event or league, no rules have been broken.

Keep crying.


They broke a rule at beaxch lax...

"Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

Their holdbacks were in 8th grade playing on what was at the time, a 7th grade team.



RM admitted to it as well , pretty sad



Nice try. That was a summer event. Those kids on the team were all Rising 8th graders. If you dislike holdbacks, that's one thing. No rule was broken.


No it was not summer for everyone- the LI kids were all still in school for another few weeks and were current 7th graders, not yet rising 8th graders. PLUS, those kids that choose to repeat a grade and play down with the 2020 team had never officially entered a repeated grade. Anyone could say they were repeating a grade- but until the kid takes a step into the school and the same grade again (quite ridiculous), it is not official. Maybe this will be the next trend to manipulate a system- who is to stop kids from gaming the system in the summer and saying they are going to repeat a grade? You can even register a kid and they can back out right before September. Would not put it past a certain club to do so.

Again, another thing other sports get right- you cannot add kids here and there for any game or tourney- a roster is set until next year's try outs.

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