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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158337
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
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Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


There are three on my sons team, and all were for academic reasons, not lacrosse. All are nice kids, just were not doing well in school. One is still in public school, had to repeat the grade in public school, pure academic. The other two are in private grade schools, parents saw they were not doing well and move them to a better academic environment and they are doing much better. Public school is not a good fit for every kid.
I have no contempt for the coach or parents of my sons team, why would I. They do not do what Crabs does, they makes it their business model to get kids to repeat a grade if they want to remain with the program.
I have talked to several parents of former and present Crabs players and all have stated that this is how
Crabs operates. How do you think they have 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team.
Grade base lacrosse is fine, but the true spirit of this is being abused by Crabs and has been since the beginning of grade base. Ryan M saw a way he could "game" the system to his advantage and proceeded to do so with a vengeance.
There are so many things wrong with having 15 and close to 16 year olds playing against 13 and 14 year olds, but this is what Ryan M wants, this is how he feels he can win and push other teams around. This is why I have no respect for this individual and do despise him.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158344
04/06/16 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


The 2 or 3 on our team are summer birthdays, nobody's switching schools to repeat a year and none of them have ever played on a 2019 team. To me that's a big difference.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158347
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Keep laughing, but they will have a ton of college commits. And why does Madlax get a pass when they have more holdbacks than anybody?


For many people, "the end justifies the means" is unacceptable on many fronts, moral, social, ethical, and is not a lesson we should be teaching the next generation.

MadLax gets a pass because they are irrelevant in 2020.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


The 2 or 3 on our team are summer birthdays, nobody's switching schools to repeat a year and none of them have ever played on a 2019 team. To me that's a big difference.
So I guess you are saying a little bit of cheating is OK...Your loosing your point here real quick. Just because you don't like the guy does not mean he is a bigger cheater than everyone else....Just a cheater like everyone else. Is it cheating if it not against the rules? I am confused....

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #158351
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I was not aware MadLax was big into holdbacks - if so - they are just as bad as the Crabs.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158353
04/06/16 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Keep laughing, but they will have a ton of college commits. And why does Madlax get a pass when they have more holdbacks than anybody?


For many people, "the end justifies the means" is unacceptable on many fronts, moral, social, ethical, and is not a lesson we should be teaching the next generation.

MadLax gets a pass because they are irrelevant in 2020.
Uhhg. There 2023 team is loaded with Holdbacks. Their kids tower over other teams. A bit of a joke until a kid really gets hurt

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


There are three on my sons team, and all were for academic reasons, not lacrosse. All are nice kids, just were not doing well in school. One is still in public school, had to repeat the grade in public school, pure academic. The other two are in private grade schools, parents saw they were not doing well and move them to a better academic environment and they are doing much better. Public school is not a good fit for every kid.
I have no contempt for the coach or parents of my sons team, why would I. They do not do what Crabs does, they makes it their business model to get kids to repeat a grade if they want to remain with the program.
I have talked to several parents of former and present Crabs players and all have stated that this is how
Crabs operates. How do you think they have 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team.
Grade base lacrosse is fine, but the true spirit of this is being abused by Crabs and has been since the beginning of grade base. Ryan M saw a way he could "game" the system to his advantage and proceeded to do so with a vengeance.
There are so many things wrong with having 15 and close to 16 year olds playing against 13 and 14 year olds, but this is what Ryan M wants, this is how he feels he can win and push other teams around. This is why I have no respect for this individual and do despise him.


repeat a grade in public school? don't think so! Parents did this, not the school.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158357
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My on-age son laughs at them and then goes out and tries to beat them. Make no mistake, the on-age kids make fun of the holdbacks.

Last year, during the tryout tour that my son did, I happened to overhear at the Kooper's tryouts about the double holdback. If you could hear some of the things that the kids, some who are holdbacks themselves, were saying about the double holdback kid, it would make you sorry for the double holdback. Everybody is whispering. when you beat them, you smile a little bit and when you lose to them, it doesn't mean anything.

My son was asked to play down at a camp against Elite 2021 players. Although there were holdback 2021s older than him, he told me he never wants to do it again. no satisfaction when he wins. He compared it to beating his 9 year old brother at lacrosse. Needed to be done but demoralizing.


tryout tour? stop being a pinny grabber and commit to a team.

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04/06/16 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


There are three on my sons team, and all were for academic reasons, not lacrosse. All are nice kids, just were not doing well in school. One is still in public school, had to repeat the grade in public school, pure academic. The other two are in private grade schools, parents saw they were not doing well and move them to a better academic environment and they are doing much better. Public school is not a good fit for every kid.
I have no contempt for the coach or parents of my sons team, why would I. They do not do what Crabs does, they makes it their business model to get kids to repeat a grade if they want to remain with the program.
I have talked to several parents of former and present Crabs players and all have stated that this is how
Crabs operates. How do you think they have 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team.
Grade base lacrosse is fine, but the true spirit of this is being abused by Crabs and has been since the beginning of grade base. Ryan M saw a way he could "game" the system to his advantage and proceeded to do so with a vengeance.
There are so many things wrong with having 15 and close to 16 year olds playing against 13 and 14 year olds, but this is what Ryan M wants, this is how he feels he can win and push other teams around. This is why I have no respect for this individual and do despise him.


repeat a grade in public school? don't think so! Parents did this, not the school.
Congrats on cheating a little

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #158361
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


There are three on my sons team, and all were for academic reasons, not lacrosse. All are nice kids, just were not doing well in school. One is still in public school, had to repeat the grade in public school, pure academic. The other two are in private grade schools, parents saw they were not doing well and move them to a better academic environment and they are doing much better. Public school is not a good fit for every kid.
I have no contempt for the coach or parents of my sons team, why would I. They do not do what Crabs does, they makes it their business model to get kids to repeat a grade if they want to remain with the program.
I have talked to several parents of former and present Crabs players and all have stated that this is how
Crabs operates. How do you think they have 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team.
Grade base lacrosse is fine, but the true spirit of this is being abused by Crabs and has been since the beginning of grade base. Ryan M saw a way he could "game" the system to his advantage and proceeded to do so with a vengeance.
There are so many things wrong with having 15 and close to 16 year olds playing against 13 and 14 year olds, but this is what Ryan M wants, this is how he feels he can win and push other teams around. This is why I have no respect for this individual and do despise him.


repeat a grade in public school? don't think so! Parents did this, not the school.


Wrong, the school strongly recommended the student repeat as he was having trouble all year. He has been struggling since first grade, he started school too early (late August b/d) and was the youngest in every class and finally the school took action. The parents were involved in getting the proper thing done for their son, but it was the school who recommended he repeat 7th grade. It is a public school.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wishful thinking, but I would love to see
Ryan M in goal and have players from other elite 2020 teams take shots on goal, just smack the living sh*t out of this scumbag, then he may get the message.



You have a lot of issues. Hard to take you seriously with a post like this.

It's fine to rail against holdbacks, but in this 2020 division, ALL of the teams have holdbacks.

Team 91 MD
FCA
Hawks
Next Level
Looney's
Rising Sons

All of them.


True, all the 2020 teams have holdbacks, usually 2 or 3 per team, not like Crabs with 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team plus 2 double holdbacks.
You are right, I have no love for cheaters and Ryan M is the biggest of them all.
As for Ryan M in goal, that would be fun to watch a cheater see what it is like. If you knew this man like I do you would completely understand where I am coming from.

And no, my son plays for another elite 2020 team, he has never had a desire to try out for Crabs, he can see, like all the other 2020 players, what Crabs is all about.


so for the "2 or 3" hold backs on your sons team, how do you feel about them? Do you have utter contempt for their parents, your coach, your club. Or is a little bit of cheating OK?


There are three on my sons team, and all were for academic reasons, not lacrosse. All are nice kids, just were not doing well in school. One is still in public school, had to repeat the grade in public school, pure academic. The other two are in private grade schools, parents saw they were not doing well and move them to a better academic environment and they are doing much better. Public school is not a good fit for every kid.
I have no contempt for the coach or parents of my sons team, why would I. They do not do what Crabs does, they makes it their business model to get kids to repeat a grade if they want to remain with the program.
I have talked to several parents of former and present Crabs players and all have stated that this is how
Crabs operates. How do you think they have 10+ holdbacks on their 2020 team.
Grade base lacrosse is fine, but the true spirit of this is being abused by Crabs and has been since the beginning of grade base. Ryan M saw a way he could "game" the system to his advantage and proceeded to do so with a vengeance.
There are so many things wrong with having 15 and close to 16 year olds playing against 13 and 14 year olds, but this is what Ryan M wants, this is how he feels he can win and push other teams around. This is why I have no respect for this individual and do despise him.


repeat a grade in public school? don't think so! Parents did this, not the school.


Grades can definitely be repeated in public school for academic reasons - if the kid is failing, they will have them repeat. The parents in public school can not make the choice - it is not an option as it is in private. Regardless, would question why any kid who is struggling in school is spending hours playing high level lacrosse and where the priorities are but to each their own.

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same parents come on here and brag to no end when their sons team plays up and has success, but they play a team with some hold backs and get their [lacrosse]es handed to them they come on here bashing the hold backs.

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Its a fallacy to portray Crabs as having 10+ kids who were held back for "lacrosse reasons" or to stay on the team -- that is simply not true. What is true is that they are all in 8th grade, great kids and highly skilled lacrosse players.

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Its a fallacy to portray Crabs as having 10+ kids who were held back for "lacrosse reasons" or to stay on the team -- that is simply not true. What is true is that they are all in 8th grade, great kids and highly skilled lacrosse players.


They were held back for "sports" reasons, plain and simple. Do you people not realize that we have seen at least the Baltimore area kids for years in rec and know how old they are? Two simple examples are the kid who came from Fallston Rec and re-classed once he got to BL and the kid who is currently playing in his 4th year of middle school lacrosse who went to Gilman through 7th, then did 7th at Calvert and now is magically an 8th grader at Gilman. Doubt that was for academic reasons. If he couldn't pass 7th grade at Gilman he should probably have given up lacrosse for the year. See, most of us see through this nonsense...Keep rationalizing it Crabs Daddy.

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Its a fallacy to portray Crabs as having 10+ kids who were held back for "lacrosse reasons" or to stay on the team -- that is simply not true. What is true is that they are all in 8th grade, great kids and highly skilled lacrosse players.


It is for lacrosse reasons, plain and simple. Stop your denying it, everyone sees thru it. It is how Crabs runs the program, re class or you will no longer be with Crabs.
Ryan Mc has his lacrosse model to re class or leave.

Sure, they are in the 8th grade, but are 15 and some close to 16 year old 8th graders. Regular non re class 8th graders are 13 years old.
If you don't think they have 10+ holdbacks on the 2020 team, you are out of touch. Remember, their rosters were released by accident last fall, and those rosters had each players DOB. The real fallacy is your denial of the truth. Nice try Crab dad, it didn't work.

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