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Can someone please post the birthdates of the Crabs 2020 team. Let's see the ages and then have some Crab parent justify that it is ok for 15 year olds to play against 13 year olds. Hopefully the proposal to curb early recruiting puts an end to the gaming of the system that RM has helped create. Cheaters suck.

[quote=Anonymous]Can someone please post the birthdates of the Crabs 2020 team. Let's see the ages and then have some Crab parent justify that it is ok for 15 year olds to play against 13 year olds. Hopefully the proposal to curb early recruiting puts an end to the gaming of the system that RM has helped create. Cheaters suck.

I would also like to see this, but it will never happen, Ryan M is a cheat and he knows it. He manipulates the system to his advantage, since he created this in Md a few years ago. He is the coach of Crabs 2020 and I have seen this team and they are clearly much older than other 2020 teams. He has at least two double holdbacks that will be close to 15 or maybe 16 by this spring/summer, but the Crab faithful will deny this to the end. They keep saying they only have 4 or 5 holdbacks and no double holdbacks, which is an outright lie. And I doubt if the NCAA changes the recruiting rules will have any impact on the Crabs system, they will find other ways to cheat and alter the system to their advantage. I do not know how this man can show his face in public, everyone connected to lacrosse knows what he is and what he stands for. It is also troubling that he carries a lot of weight in the youth lacrosse system in Md. and if you get in his way or try to stop him he will find ways to eliminate other teams playing in a league or his tournaments. But if by luck someone has the date of birth for his 2020 team, please post them, no names needed or required, just the dob. I would like nothing better than to see him exposed for the cheater that he is. This is not a question of winning or loosing, it is clearly an issue of player safety. A 15 or older playing against a 13 year old creates an atmosphere for injury and Ryan M could care less about safety, he just wants to win at any cost and walk around claiming to be a great coach, which he isn't. If you have them, post them, there is nothing he can do to you on this website, he won't know who you are.

[And they even have triple holdbacks who are on HGH! ohh the in-humanity of it/....insert hand wringing and teeth gnashing

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Most leagues piggyback on the insurance provided for USL members. Several tournaments and camps also require a USL membership as well.

You may not like their stance on youth lacrosse at the moment, but they are very much involved in running the sport.

These schools are very generous with aid regardless of athletic prowess. The endowments are such that more than half of all students at McDonogh, Gilman, BL get some aid and the minimum aid is about 8k per student. Reality is that you can have a family income of over 150k and still get aid if you have multiple children.

Athletes do get more aid, but it is all need based. The schools do what they can to make it possible for any kid that can get in to have an opportunity to attend. If they didn't, my kids certainly wouldn't be attending.

Very common and it is not all need based - except what/who is needed to help create the best teams possible, lacrosse included . Unfortunately, the practice often displaces kids on teams who have attended the school for 9 years paying full tuition.

Very common and it is not all need based - except what/who is needed to help create the best teams possible, lacrosse included . Unfortunately, the practice often displaces kids on teams who have attended the school for 9 years paying full tuition.

The enabling runs out. I honestly laugh at the whole "the world is run by C students who employ the A students" or the lacrosse (or other sport) club will let you roll into a high flying career. When exactly did selling crappy commercial real estate leases become a high powered career? I was the gentleman's C jock from a good college a generation ago and using sports connections helped somewhat to get interviews but my career got off to a slow and depressing start because nobody besides alums in a sport care about some random non-revenue former college ringer athlete. I recovered by getting a couple years of experience and was a little lucky to get into a good grad school but I'm not proud that I was an idiot then and wouldn't promote that as a good idea for our kids now. I think it is kind of sad and pathetic how many college lacrosse kids just come home after college and linger around club lacrosse coaching for little money and then go start the next generation of what sports can do for you lately after college, which in reality is very little.

Gee, that wasn't a defensive comment. My sport wasn't lacrosse. I don't blame my sport or sports for anything. I also don't regret things like drinking, partying and having a great social life on top of a sport. Those two things added together equaled a 3.0ish GPA and did regret not bearing down to get a 3.6-3.8 that I was capable of, but not until it was too late. I finished college sports in spring of my last year and then turned my attention to life after sports and college too late.

Sports did open some doors for interviews, but those doors shut fast when you are not qualified. So yeah, I manned up so to speak and worked for a couple years and then went to grad school and definitely made the most of that opportunity and I have a sports ethic to thank for picking myself up and pulling through. I own a business too and would simply say I do think it is a PLUS to see a college grad who was an athlete, but I don't really go in for bros with a 2.5 GPA in sociology even if it is from Duke or Notre Dame. Those kids are the new me of this generation and the world is a lot less kind to them - unless you hire all of them. They will need to be underemployed at first and get off to a slower start. That is the consequence. I'll take the kid who worked summers and part time jobs since he/she were 16 and got perfect grades every time over a knucklehead that might wonder why I don't get it he made all league in lacrosse.

I just tell my kids to never bargain their future for a few more years of playing a sport. I'm pro-lacrosse all the way if the kids take care of what is more important. BTW, how many parents of HS lacrosse players reading this have kids who don't have summer jobs or volunteer commitments? If a 16 year old kid has summer spoken for with 6-8 lacrosse events sucking out everything until early August but no summer job or other interests to pursue, I'd say that isn't a good way to go. I'd feel differently if a kid had a real shot to be a pro basketball, hockey, baseball player because those can be real careers. Lacrosse isn't that and probably never will be.

Obviously your son plays for Looneys. Don't kid yourself if you think Crabs is the only club taking advantage of holdbacks

You sound ridiculous and a bit of a crier.....Hopefully you are a team Mom and not a team Dad.. If you are a Dad your son is in trouble and you are wasting your money with club lacrosse

Actually all but a few of us are wasting our money with club lacrosse. $2000/year for fees and close to $2000/yr for wear and tear on car, gas, hotel rooms and meals at tournaments. club lacrosse in Grades 5-11 (plus the extra year for half the crabs). Add in the summer camps, showcases.

You would be better off putting that into an investment. Will probably be more than what the kid will get in lacrosse money.

As for my son, a true 2020, he will be fine. Enjoys the game, has had coaches at a few camps ask him to visit their school (D3 and D2). I understand the economics of club lacrosse. From your comment above, it seems you do not.

You sound ridiculous and a bit of a crier.....Hopefully you are a team Mom and not a team Dad.. If you are a Dad your son is in trouble and you are wasting your money with club lacrosse

Yup... you and your son sound like a parent/player that can not make it on a good lacrosse club. Filled with anger that your son is not as good as other kids and claim everyone is cheating. Enjoy your sub par year keep posting you dumb crap on this site....

Yup... you and your son sound like a parent/player that can not make it on a good lacrosse club. Filled with anger that your son is not as good as other kids and claim everyone is cheating. Enjoy your sub par year keep posting you dumb crap on this site....