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Back to the ugly stick work. Women's lacrosse should institute the progressive foul system like basketball. 4, 5, 6 fouls and YOU ARE OUT. Will get the hackers out of the game early so we can get to some fast paced action. Start cleaning it up or helmets will be here soon

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1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Southern Cal
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Louiesville
14. Stony Brook
15. Boston College
16. Towson
17. Penn
18. UConn
19. Massachusetts
20. Loyola

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D3 is the place to be....you still have a social life, a true study abroad opportunity, likely will play all 4 years in college instead of quitting like in D1&2, work very hard at both practice and academically (just not 6 hrs a day).

So much crap spewed by HS and club coaches. Daughter in her third year at D3 school. Started in 1/2 of games as a freshman, will now playing all the time as a jr.

HaHa to all the suckers.
Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder about her not playing D1. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to post this on this site which is pathetic with the tone. Let each family decide what is best for their daughter, not black and white that D3 is better than D3, or vice versa. Also, you are just talking about the lacrosse and mention nothing about the quality of the academics. Makes you look bitter and small.


Both posts make valid points. It really does come down to a family decision and the student's decision. I have seen so many mismatched students because a school offers some money but the school is all wrong for the student.

There is almost a 50% burnout rate for D1/D2 students. It is a huge commitment.

D3 may be a fit for many students. No athletic money at all but the schools will help with financial packages based on need. Schools that are competitive in lacrosse at the D3 level (NESCAC schools such as Amherst, Williams, Tufts, Middlebury, Hamilton and non-NESCAC schools such as Washington & Lee, Franklin & Marshall, Gettysburg) are very difficult to get admitted. You are looking at Ivy type requirements (some of the schools I mentioned are 'Little Ivies") so your child needs to have high academics. They are also very expensive.

I don't think the reply poster has a chip on his shoulder but surely D1/D2 students are not suckers. Sit down wth your child sooner than later and talk about what they want from college overall. If they want to do a true semester abroad or are trying for a difficult degree (Yes, I know there are some who are pre-med and D1. Rare) and want to play lacrosse (or any sport) maybe D3 is the way. Some students don't want to live a way from home so a local school may be an option.

There is no right or wrong, outside of giving the student the best chance of succeeding now and into the future.


Oh Baldbear, you make too much sense. What is the purpose of paying thousands of dollars to clubs if you can't brag about your D1 prodigy? Sarcasm intended. I agree with you, but I bet the insults and put-downs are on their way.

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1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Southern Cal
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Louiesville
14. Stony Brook
15. Boston College
16. Towson
17. Penn
18. UConn
19. Massachusetts
20. Loyola
right now 'cuse over UNC, Loyola out until they can beat one of the bigs, Louisville over Duke and Northwestern, Stanford too high. Parity is getting closer every year

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Loyola is 1-3. I agree with a previous poster. They shouldn't be anywhere near the top 20.

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.

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Was hoping Hofstra came alive. Truth be told I'm nervous, these are all girls SS hand picked and several of us bought into her "vision" and gave verbals but having second thoughts and considering D2 programs. Every D2 school has the major my daughter wants, a few are developing very nicely and extremely competitive. Have a few more years but will be weighing all options.

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.
how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense.

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.
Also still UNC with 2 losses over 'cuse, both have played lower ranked teams and won, but 'cause without a loss and beating 2 teams that were at that time ranked (loyola and Northwestern) and UNC with 2 ranked loses, makes no sense

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.
how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense.


Loyola came out of the gate with a very difficult early season schedule. Florida and Syracuse are Top 5 programs and then they played Hopkins and Towson both are competitive teams and they are also rivalry games for bragging rights on Charles Street which make them tougher then random games. Loyola's next two games are Penn State and Virginia. They could have scheduled some less competitive programs and have a 4 - 0 record. If they can win one of the next two they can stay in the top 20.

Duke lost to Elon. Great win for Elon. At 3 - 3 Blue Devils need to earn consideration. I think they have to win at least 3 or 4 ACC games and all of their non conference games (unless Elon finishes in the top 10) to be in the top 20 at the end of the season.

Not just wins and losses. Have to beat good teams and you cant lose to less competitive teams.

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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.
Also still UNC with 2 losses over 'cuse, both have played lower ranked teams and won, but 'cause without a loss and beating 2 teams that were at that time ranked (loyola and Northwestern) and UNC with 2 ranked loses, makes no sense


North Carolin has lost to #1 Maryland and #2 Florida. They lost each game by one goal. That puts them at #3. Syracuse can jump them as soon as they knock off Florida or Maryland in the coming weeks..

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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1


So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field?

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These rankings mean nothing. Talk to me in June. Just people's opinions, have fun debating it, don't take it personnel. I don't think its that crazy having UNC #4, their 2 loses are to the #1 and #2 ranked teams.

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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1


So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field?


I would bet we will see two or three of those teams in the final four. Syracuse, Florida also likely. Who are the other teams with legit shot at making it? ND? Who else?

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1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Southern Cal
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Northwestern
12. Duke
13. Louiesville
14. Stony Brook
15. Boston College
16. Towson
17. Penn
18. UConn
19. Massachusetts
20. Loyola


What poll are you using? IWLCA for 2/29/16 not out yet.

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1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson


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Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown.



Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things.


1. MD
2. Florida
3. Notre Dame
4. UNC
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stanford
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Penn State
11. Stony Brook
12. Northwestern
13. Boston College
14. Towson
15. UConn
16. Massachusetts
17. Southern Cal
18. Vanderbilt
19. Elon
20. Loyola

Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now.
how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense.


Loyola came out of the gate with a very difficult early season schedule. Florida and Syracuse are Top 5 programs and then they played Hopkins and Towson both are competitive teams and they are also rivalry games for bragging rights on Charles Street which make them tougher then random games. Loyola's next two games are Penn State and Virginia. They could have scheduled some less competitive programs and have a 4 - 0 record. If they can win one of the next two they can stay in the top 20.

Duke lost to Elon. Great win for Elon. At 3 - 3 Blue Devils need to earn consideration. I think they have to win at least 3 or 4 ACC games and all of their non conference games (unless Elon finishes in the top 10) to be in the top 20 at the end of the season.

Not just wins and losses. Have to beat good teams and you cant lose to less competitive teams.
No it's not just wins and losses, by your own ranks 'cause has beaten 2 top 20 teams, Loyola has lost to 2 and an unranked team at the time, UNC has lost to 2 top 20 teams and beaten none so explain how they remain above a team with 2 wins against ranked teams, is it just because they are UNC. Why does 'cause need to beat 3-4 top 10 to get love but not UNC, they get it with loses, thats strange to me.

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New media poll is out and IMO very accurate

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IMO...There are 3 interesting teams: James Madison, Loyola and Hofstra. All 3 are interesting because they are not having good seasons so far. JMU is usually a top 20 team but so far they are 1-3. Loyola is 1-3. Hofstra is 0-3. All 3 will be fine eventually, but right now they are going thru a rough patch. Towson is interesting because the are undefeated, which is unexpected. Elon is doing very well. So far an interesting year.

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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly

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New media poll is out and IMO very accurate


Yes, more accurate than IWLCA Poll which has Northwestern #6 (1-2) ahead of Virginia #7(3-1). Didn't Virginia beat Northwestern head to head?
They also have Princeton #9 (3-0) behind both Virginia and Northwestern. Didn't Princeton spank Virginia 14-7 recently?

C'mon man


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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly
What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15

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IWLCA Poll for Division I, February 29
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 3-0 400 20 1
2 Syracuse 5-0 380 2
3 Florida 4-0 352 3
4 North Carolina 3-2 336 4
5 Notre Dame 5-0 300 7
6 Northwestern 1-2 287 5
7 Virginia 3-1 279 7
8 Penn State 2-1 257 6
9 Princeton 3-0 249 9
10 Stony Brook 1-0 205 11
11 Southern California 2-0 197 12
12 Louisville 5-0 170 17
13 Stanford 3-1 158 14
14 Boston College 2-2 125 15
15 Duke 3-3 122 10
16 Penn 1-1 120 13
17 Ohio State 3-1 77 18
18 Johns Hopkins 3-1 59 16
19 Connecticut 3-0 37 20
20 Towson 4-0 29 NR

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IWLCA Poll for Division II, February 29
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 2-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 1-0 374 2
3 Lindenwood 3-0 363 3
4 New Haven 0-0 342 4
5 LIU Post 0-0 315 5
6 Rollins 3-0 291 6
7 Lock Haven 0-0 260 7
8 Limestone 3-0 251 9
9 Stonehill 0-0 249 8
10 West Chester 1-0 209 10
11 Grand Valley State 1-2 205 11
12 Mercyhurst 1-1 198 13
13 Florida Southern 0-2 160 12
14 Mount Olive 5-0 137 14
15 Queens 2-0 107 16
16 Seton Hill 1-0 106 15
17 Dowling 0-0 81 17
18 Bentley 0-0 68 18
19 Regis (CO) 2-0 47 19
20 Saint Anselm 0-0 22 20

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IWLCA Poll for Division III, February 29
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 0-0 400 20 1
2 Trinity (CT) 0-0 377 2
3 Franklin & Marshall 2-0 358 3
4 Middlebury 0-0 339 4
5 College of NJ 1-0 312 5
6 Gettysburg 2-0 299 6
7 Salisbury 3-0 287 9
8 [lacrosse] 1-1 252 8
9 Bowdoin 0-0 226 10
10 Catholic (DC) 0-1 220 7
11 Tufts 0-0 198 11
12 Amherst 0-0 180 12
13 Hamilton 0-0 154 13
14 Messiah 1-1 128 14
15 Colby 0-0 109 17
16 Geneseo 0-0 98 18
17 St. John Fisher 0-0 58 19
18 Mary Washington 4-0 45 NR
19 Union 0-0 30 20
19 Fredonia 0-2 30 15

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You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo
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You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo
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my daughter plays D1 but on none of those teams, nor on any of the top teams on any list. I, for one, do not consider it a "poll" as much as an opinion, thus the I.M.H.O. I don't think past years performance should be in any equation. What I do believe is that any team can change from year to year, be it the #1 or #107. Every year another school adds a program and gives girls more options in places to play. No longer are girls fighting for a place on a handful of teams, and fighting for playing time. Girls that developed later are finding quality time and making a difference on non traditional squads. I believe in the next few years the field will be a lot closer amongst all the teams. The bigs will still get the good players, but as time goes by, and those players aren't getting the minuets they want, they will go to other schools and improve many different programs. Just on my daughters team they have had girls transfer in and out from\to bigger programs.

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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly
What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15


Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3.

Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound??

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Most rankings early are based on last season where my NOT favorite team Stony Brook beat NU Florida and smashed Notre Dame That is how a team gets a high pre season ranking. You also made me do some research on SB schedule their next four games they play the 3rd, 6th and 10 th ranked team in country in addition to Yale also noticed an interesting game with Stanford Not a bad schedule for mid major. Impossible to compare to a ACC or Big 10 schedule but you can only control what you can control. Regardless good for LI to have a college team that is relevant.

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Most rankings early are based on last season where my NOT favorite team Stony Brook beat NU Florida and smashed Notre Dame That is how a team gets a high pre season ranking. You also made me do some research on SB schedule their next four games they play the 3rd, 6th and 10 th ranked team in country in addition to Yale also noticed an interesting game with Stanford Not a bad schedule for mid major. Impossible to compare to a ACC or Big 10 schedule but you can only control what you can control. Regardless good for LI to have a college team that is relevant.


You missed the point ... I'll try again. You have ranked Stony at #10 (i btw think they deserve to be there). But what have they done THIS year, as you said, to warrant that? The answer is nothing. U asked what NU has done to warrant a top 15 ranking and I told you. To good games against top 10 teams, one of which is a likely final 4 team, and a win against a good opponent on the road. Using your eyes, and little knowledge of the women's game, it would be silly to put NU outside the top 15. They may even lose to Louisville, again on the road, and that still wouldn't mean they are out side the top 15. Why, for instance do you rank Penn Sate where you do? They lost to Virginia by 3.

Putting NU outside the top 15 reduces your credibility. I'm just trying to help you out.

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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly
What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15


Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3.

Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound??
You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now.

You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind

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You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo
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IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent.

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[quote=Anonymous]Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1


So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field?


Coaching and Studs will have the teams above in the finals. Other teams can have some in season success but history shows they can't break through in the end

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You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo
Agenda driven Stick to these
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Media poll
Nike lax mag


IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent.


You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out.

All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1.

So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun.

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You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo
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IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent.


You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out.

All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1.

So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun.



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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly
What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15


Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3.

Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound??
You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now.

You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind


Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you.

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Syracuse spanked today! Looking forward to the showdown on Sunday between FL and SB. Think JS may get a schlacking! This will be a very telling game!

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I.M.H.O.

1. UMD
2. FLA
3. ND
4. 'cuse
5. Princeton
6. UVA
7. Louisville
8. UNC
9. Penn St
10. Stony Brook
11. U Mass
12. Stanford
13. So Cal
14. Uconn
15. Towson



ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly
What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15


Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3.

Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound??
You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now.

You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind


Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you.

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