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Is your club interested in owning its own lacrosse complex? #140849
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I want to let the lacrosse community know that the Sachem Youth Soccer League has lost its lease on the Sachem School District fields at the south service road off of the L.I.E. last evening, effective 06.01.2016.

Bids are being accepted for a new lessee and I think that it should also be open to the lacrosse community. I attended the BoE meeting last night and the SYSL lease was terminated.

If you are interested in having 15 outdoor fields contact me and I will let you know how to enter a bid.

cjowins@optonline.net

If you would like to read what is happening, follow this thread on Back of THE NET!!

http://www.backofthenet.com/62rd/ubbthreads.php/topics/624812/25

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With SYAG about to lose the fields at Seneca (we all know Seneca is the Middle School being shut down) I think it's a no brainer for them to make a bid for the Waverly fields and move not only LAX but also their Football and possibly their baseball programs there. And then make a deal with KK to get indoor space for SYAG in the winter at KK in return for KK being able to use an outdoor field or two at Waverly in the spring and fall. A win-win for everyone. Let SYSL move to some of the elementary/middle school fields like most of the soccer programs do.

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I know that the first bid that was rescinded was for an outrageous amount of money BUT they wanted it signed and delivered last night. The BoE had some "very" emotional people on it that didn't feel kindly toward the "gun being held to their head".

They are open to ALL bids and I do believe that the whole point is to raise more money for the district. Not sure that SYAG will be considered as they will want it for as small amount as the SYSL.

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I know that the first bid that was rescinded was for an outrageous amount of money BUT they wanted it signed and delivered last night. The BoE had some "very" emotional people on it that didn't feel kindly toward the "gun being held to their head".

They are open to ALL bids and I do believe that the whole point is to raise more money for the district. Not sure that SYAG will be considered as they will want it for as small amount as the SYSL.


While your information is correct, you are either unaware of the full story or you are withholding it.

Here is what you left out....

The deal was done...the renter had negotiated and signed a lease at the office of the school attorney. The district was to countersign the lease at the closed door executive meeting. The board then pulled a 180 turnaround. It was then that they were told a take it or leave it. The Sachem BoE turned down 2.2 million dollars. How is that for a gun at your head? I dont blame the people that held a gun to the district's head...and pulled a 2.2 million dollar trigger. Do you really think they did a smart thing?

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
I know that the first bid that was rescinded was for an outrageous amount of money BUT they wanted it signed and delivered last night. The BoE had some "very" emotional people on it that didn't feel kindly toward the "gun being held to their head".

They are open to ALL bids and I do believe that the whole point is to raise more money for the district. Not sure that SYAG will be considered as they will want it for as small amount as the SYSL.


While your information is correct, you are either unaware of the full story or you are withholding it.

Here is what you left out....

The deal was done...the renter had negotiated and signed a lease at the office of the school attorney. The district was to countersign the lease at the closed door executive meeting. The board then pulled a 180 turnaround. It was then that they were told a take it or leave it. The Sachem BoE turned down 2.2 million dollars. How is that for a gun at your head? I dont blame the people that held a gun to the district's head...and pulled a 2.2 million dollar trigger. Do you really think they did a smart thing?


I withheld it..lol Giving more information to the clubs that have contacted me.

They did not act smart. The 4 board members that voted no did so as they got really emotional and then stupid. The offer was the best one that they would have ever received. The have an obligation to do what is best for the district and they threw it away.

The good news is that now those fields are for rent and they are accepting bids.

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Everyone seems to be getting by WITHOUT having to pay crazy field fees. This school board is going to be kicking themselves for a while that they didn't take the 2.2m

There are some lax programs that could use these fields and would have the money but that would mean dipping those short arms into their pockets which they don't like to do!

Lax would rip these fields up way more than soccer so the up keep would be greater

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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.


You might be surprised.

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Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.


You might be surprised.


we all know what the isa/kk dues are. There isn't enough meat on that bone for a big offer unless they really jack the prices or start running tournaments there every weekend. Lacrosse on the other hand is printing money so my bet is if there is another big offer its from a lacrosse club with eyes on training and tournaments

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Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.


You might be surprised.


I have no doubt that the number of people will be bidding for the fields. The point is that now that the hard work is done in getting the BoE to terminate SYSL's lease, the new highest bidder will get the fields whether that bid is higher or lower than what SUSA offered.

So if SYSL offers 25k a year, ISA 35k a year and a LAX group 45k a year, the 45k a year gets the fields. It doesn't matter that the SUSA offer was five times that because that offer is no longer on the table. That's why I think someone like SYAG has a shot at taking over the fields.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.


Well, you're assuming that nobody else is interested. You don't know that.

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The District office has given me the Attorney's telephone number for bidding.

Her name is Mary Anne Sidowsky and the number to call is 631 261 8834

If you do not get a timely response let me know and I will give you some of the board members home telephone numbers.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Bureaucrats play with other peoples money. They will not get another offer that high.


What's the basis behind this statement?


SUSA put in an over the top offer to convince the BoE to break the lease with SYSL. Now that the lease with SYSL is terminated there is no incentive for anyone else to bid so much to get the fields. They only have to outbid the other suitors and none of the other organizations interested have the capability of paying anything close to what SUSA had offered.


Well, you're assuming that nobody else is interested. You don't know that.


There is interest. I have been in communication with quite a few.

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