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Re: High School Lax
Anonymous #138861 10/23/15 12:53 PM
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Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


Your talking about Team Smithtown not associated with the school.

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Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


Your talking about Team Smithtown.. Most of the kids already play on travel teams, so most kids didn't want to play on both. They also still have the school team and are doing tournaments with that.

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Anonymous #138924 10/24/15 06:17 AM
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What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.

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What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Thank you very much

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Anonymous #138984 10/24/15 08:38 PM
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What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Fully funded still carries an odd connotation. The cost of a scholarship to the school is not the actual tuition/room and board that they charge a student, there is a margin. The cost to the school would be the above line gross cost (COG). The school doesn't hand the student-athlete the money and bill the student for the tuition, etc.

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Anonymous #138995 10/24/15 10:50 PM
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There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.

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A Holl #138997 10/24/15 11:09 PM
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Yeah you need more division 1 men's programs. You need some big schools like the PAC 10 getting men's lax programs.

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Anonymous #138998 10/24/15 11:13 PM
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What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Fully funded still carries an odd connotation. The cost of a scholarship to the school is not the actual tuition/room and board that they charge a student, there is a margin. The cost to the school would be the above line gross cost (COG). The school doesn't hand the student-athlete the money and bill the student for the tuition, etc.


Ok there Price Waterhouse... Thanks for your inane clarification.

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A Holl #139000 10/24/15 11:37 PM
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Stanford would be an ideal school to start a D1 team. Excellent academics and creates a base on the West Coast to bring in talent. Denver created the first push West with a high quality program and Stanford could do the same. They already run high quality D1 programs in football, basketball, etc.

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Anonymous #139023 10/25/15 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


I assume that you are talking about a summer tournament team. I am sure that SE and SW will both field JV teams this spring.

I think the BOE and AD realized that there is a clear conflict of interest so they put an end to the BS.

I think you will see some other administrations follow and put an end to the collusion, coercion and extortion that has been going on.

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A Holl #139052 10/25/15 04:09 PM
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Who is John Glenn varsity lax coach

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.


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Anonymous #139235 10/26/15 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

A good start would be airing more games on television. It is very annoying to see womens volleyball and softball get so mych more air time than lacrosse when it's the fastest growing sport!

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.

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Anonymous #139252 10/26/15 02:31 PM
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There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

A good start would be airing more games on television. It is very annoying to see womens volleyball and softball get so mych more air time than lacrosse when it's the fastest growing sport!

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.


Fastest growing sport? The growth rate is at 3.5% and TV is down 50%!!! Just because some schools are adding teams doesn't mean anyone cares except for the players and their families

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Anonymous #139260 10/26/15 03:10 PM
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Who is John Glenn varsity lax coach

Boys- will be a new coach
Girls- will be tha same as last few years frown

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