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Re: Sayville Varsity coach
Anonymous #136596 10/05/15 10:37 PM
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So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?

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Re: Sayville Varsity coach
Anonymous #136597 10/05/15 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.

If that is true I hope they find someone good to replace him. It's a pretty good program and you can't have some B of E, hand picked tool come in. (SWR 2 years ago). Going to be tough to get another coach to come in after the current coach was forced out.

Not really that hard. This is LI. It's not hard to find someone who knows the game. I don't really care because my son is a senior and he, along with many of the team, didn't like playing for him.


Knowing the game is 20% of the job if that much. You have to be committed. I didn't like my college coach when I played for him, he was tough, but I respected him and realized years later that he made me a better person. Lacrosse is not lollipops and gum drops and neither is the real world. The sooner kids learn this, the better off they will be.

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A Holl #136598 10/05/15 10:58 PM
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No Mike....your son is junior...not a senior

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The exception being the starters on the team? Really the kids who aren't good enough and their parents don't like him? Here's a tip if they aren't good enough to start on a High School team they aren't very good! Sayville while a good program is a small school and has a small gene pool. Imagine if your non starter went to Ward Melville or Sachem. I guess that those coaches are tools too!

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Anonymous #136611 10/06/15 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?


Not sure, but their responsibility goes beyond a mediocre lacrosse program. His actions repeatedly put the district in a bad position.

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Re: Sayville Varsity coach
Anonymous #136613 10/06/15 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?


Not sure, but their responsibility goes beyond a mediocre lacrosse program. His actions repeatedly put the district in a bad position.


How did his actions put the district in a "bad position"?

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He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.

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What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


I see that as acting as a member of the community for the community. What would you expect a committed coach to do. I applaud his stance. A lesser coach would have coward under the pressure.

I see the BOE as acting bad, if this is all the case. Shame on them!

Like a prior post said you cant make everyone happy but you need to see the leadership role he is trying to take. but he must remember you can only bite the hand that feeds you so many times!

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Anonymous #136647 10/06/15 01:19 PM
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He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.

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What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc

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What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc


Where did this Port W news get announced?

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He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Most have more then 1 assistant.

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What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc


Where did this Port W news get announced?


Grapevine. It's true though.

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He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.

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