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Re: Boys 2018 Fall 2011/Spring 2012
Anonymous #12442 05/23/12 12:43 PM
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Agreed. High level youth baseball and basketball require coaches to bring the roster and the birth certificates to the big tournaments - lacrosse will need to do the same. US Lacrosse is trying to align grade with age by having a birthdate cut-off of August 31, which is a good idea. if you are born September, 1999 (or later) you are a 6th grader for school (public school in NY) and a 12 yr old (2018) for purposes of Summer travel lacrosse. So sept/oct/nov/dec 99's aren't 'cheating' by being in 6th grade or playing 2018...they're just on the older side, but legal for both.

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Anonymous #12463 05/23/12 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. High level youth baseball and basketball require coaches to bring the roster and the birth certificates to the big tournaments - lacrosse will need to do the same. US Lacrosse is trying to align grade with age by having a birthdate cut-off of August 31, which is a good idea. if you are born September, 1999 (or later) you are a 6th grader for school (public school in NY) and a 12 yr old (2018) for purposes of Summer travel lacrosse. So sept/oct/nov/dec 99's aren't 'cheating' by being in 6th grade or playing 2018...they're just on the older side, but legal for both.


FYI Public school cut off in NYS is Dec 1. Not September 1. For the record, I don't think anyone cares about the kids born sept - nov, close enough. Its the crazy parents who have a kid born in March, April or May and hold them back. Thats when you get a kid that is 18 - 20 months older than the younger oct nov kids in the same grade. I totally agree with birth certificates, has to happen.

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Anonymous #12479 05/24/12 11:20 AM
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It will NEVER EVER happen without US Lacrosse stepping in and becoming the governing body it is supposed to be. It will then pass down mandates to the Member Clubs. BTW - they should make it absolutely mandatory - that ALL CLUBS AND PLAYERS be registered. Get the insurance companies involved, and they can require registration with US Lacrosse to process any claims. US Lacrosse has to step up or the sport will be worse for it in the long run.

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Anonymous #12480 05/24/12 11:44 AM
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ok, i'll admit upfront it's a slow day, and I made a couple of calls. it turns out that NYS has no fixed birthdate requirements - it's up to the individual school district..so ours is 12/1/99 to 12/1/00 for 6th grade, but the next town over is 11/30/99 to 11/30/00. no wonder people get angry about '99's' in this age group - what's incorrect in their district may be fine somewhere else. i agree the much bigger problem is the playing down, particularly now as 7th and 8th grade boys are hitting puberty.

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Anonymous #12481 05/24/12 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It will NEVER EVER happen without US Lacrosse stepping in and becoming the governing body it is supposed to be. It will then pass down mandates to the Member Clubs. BTW - they should make it absolutely mandatory - that ALL CLUBS AND PLAYERS be registered. Get the insurance companies involved, and they can require registration with US Lacrosse to process any claims. US Lacrosse has to step up or the sport will be worse for it in the long run.


I suggest email them. I did last week. Its ridiculous that its gonna get to the point that more and more kids are going to get hurt. info@uslacrosse.org - masses speak volumes.

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Re: Boys 2018 Fall 2011/Spring 2012
Anonymous #12482 05/24/12 11:56 AM
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totally agree. lacrosse tournaments don't police age requirements because noone is making them do so. either US Lacrosse steps up and enforces it, or someone's going to get hurt by an older boy/team 'playing down' and it will take the resulting law suit to scare tournament and league directors to do the right thing.

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Anonymous #12497 05/24/12 05:15 PM
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The resulting lawsuits will happen, however most Tournaments think they have it covered by making individuals sign waivers. Waivers are only and I repeat ONLY LEGALLY BINDING when all parties abide by the rule stippulated in the waiver. If tournament directors think that they are safe from legal trouble because the players signed waivers the are in for very rude awakenings.

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Anonymous #12513 05/25/12 08:29 AM
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Agreed, waivers signed by partipants will only protect the tournament operators if all rules are followed by the participants and the rules are enforced by the operator.

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Anonymous #12541 05/25/12 04:21 PM
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Anybody know anything about RECON?

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Anonymous #13397 06/18/12 07:56 AM
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weekend results anyone?

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Anonymous #13402 06/18/12 08:24 AM
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At Lehigh the 91 5th,6st,7th and 8th grade teams all won in their respective Brackets. 7th grade 91 group defeated a surprisingly strong Pride group made up of mostly 8th graders with a sprinkling of players from other grades (7 and 9 ).The 5th and 8th grade teams defeated the team named Victor who placed 4 teams in the finals but came up short in all. The surprise of the Tournament was the Turtles being upset by the aforementioned Victor 8th grade team.

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The 91 6st grade team rolled to another Tournament win, while their Coach was sunning in Maui. Tells you if the team has talent,and is prepared during practices anyone can coach them during games great Job George

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The surprise of the Tournament was the Turtles being upset by the aforementioned Victor 8th grade team.


That was no surprise!

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Anonymous #13434 06/18/12 12:08 PM
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The surprise of the Tournament was the Turtles being upset by the aforementioned Victor 8th grade team.


That was no surprise!

It was to Them

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Anonymous #13441 06/18/12 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
At Lehigh the 91 5th,6st,7th and 8th grade teams all won in their respective Brackets. 7th grade 91 group defeated a surprisingly strong Pride group made up of mostly 8th graders with a sprinkling of players from other grades (7 and 9 ).The 5th and 8th grade teams defeated the team named Victor who placed 4 teams in the finals but came up short in all. The surprise of the Tournament was the Turtles being upset by the aforementioned Victor 8th grade team.


I mentioned that Pride team on another thread and people did not agree that they were strong- that 8th grade team is stacked with solid, strong players. I was surprised when i saw them play. I do not have a kid on this team either- but no one ever mentions them. They are up there with some good teams. I look forward to seeing them play some of the bigger teams and hearing how they did.

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