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Girls 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016
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BOTC is opening our Fall 2015 through Summer 2016 thread covering the Girls 2020-8th Grade age group.

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B_O_T_C #128959 08/06/15 03:03 PM
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So let me hear some thoughts on fl$, Liberty, Legacy, Elevate and Express? I don't care if you are a squeaky wheel / axe grinder-- I just want to hear the skinny and I'll determine if you spouting gospel or your just plain nutz. Either way, makes for good reading.
Obviously, I'm interested in good/bad just nothing about individual players... not that this should need to be said.

thanks peeps!

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legacy others are a waste m

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Call around and talk to the clubs before you commit. DO NOT BELIEVE everything you read on here. For instance, fl$ is just a horrific girls program, so is 91. They are a boys program that collects checks from the girls. My fiends kids played on their 2018 girls team and had an awful experience this summer. They did not win one game and had zero coaching. Call programs that are DEDICATED TO GIRLS Its a lot of money, do some research before you spend it.

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Anonymous #129029 08/07/15 10:12 AM
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Thx for this! My daughter is coming off a team that was completely bent on taking money from the girls teams to bolster the boys operations.... so I hear you on that.

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there are caveats though...even some of the "girls only" LI travel teams are only in it for the $$...there is no real difference from a boys program that adds a girls team or two versus a "girls only" program that just adds teams at age levels (A, B or C)to pad the account...there are a couple of North Shore programs that come to mind...especially at the 2020 level..so even though a director will blow smoke and say how devoted they are to the girls, be careful--it is a biz to them and nothing else!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are caveats though...even some of the "girls only" LI travel teams are only in it for the $$...there is no real difference from a boys program that adds a girls team or two versus a "girls only" program that just adds teams at age levels (A, B or C)to pad the account...there are a couple of North Shore programs that come to mind...especially at the 2020 level..so even though a director will blow smoke and say how devoted they are to the girls, be careful--it is a biz to them and nothing else!


Completely not true. We did them both. Girls programs focus on the girls. Boys and girls programs focus on the boys. Yes, they both want to make $$$'s but at least they focus on the girls.

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there are caveats though...even some of the "girls only" LI travel teams are only in it for the $$...there is no real difference from a boys program that adds a girls team or two versus a "girls only" program that just adds teams at age levels (A, B or C)to pad the account...there are a couple of North Shore programs that come to mind...especially at the 2020 level..so even though a director will blow smoke and say how devoted they are to the girls, be careful--it is a biz to them and nothing else!


Completely not true. We did them both. Girls programs focus on the girls. Boys and girls programs focus on the boys. Yes, they both want to make $$$'s but at least they focus on the girls.


I'd have to think the latter is true- If there are boys and girls the money goes to the boys over the girls, if there are only girls the money rolls downhill from A, B, C, etc. OR in a more sinister view the money goes A only and then B and C get the crap end of it while the overage goes in the coffers.

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think my point was not that the "Girls Only" don't concentrate on the girls, but that they become just a program that endeavors to bring in as much cash as possible--even though a watered down program is ultimately what happens ..the idea becomes to create as many teams as there are girls willing to play/pay. If anyone thinks that there is a girls (or boys) director who gives a rats patooty about their "C" level teams (or even most of the "B" teams) in their own program, you are kidding yourself. The lower tier teams are just funding the gravy train.

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You'd think you were playing for a mom and pop operation not one that has 10+ teams in motion. Parents unfriendly, training SUCKED, yet playing time good however. I'd find it impossible to believe the lack of training and lack of organization was/is due chiefly to energy and money going into the boys... that or they are only about the money and not the experience.
This is our 2 cents from experience; Fans keep your barbs to yourselves, this was very much our experience, not just hearsay or rumor.

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Anonymous #129518 08/12/15 08:43 AM
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What team were you referring to? what are good options for a 2020 Nassau girl?

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B_O_T_C #129527 08/12/15 09:11 AM
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TG is awful. Smoke and mirrors. No training. Politics galore!!
People are finally starting to see what this club really is. A sinking ship.


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B_O_T_C #129534 08/12/15 10:06 AM
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Nobody trains unless you pay xtra. YJ practices once a week . That's it

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is awful. Smoke and mirrors. No training. Politics galore!!
People are finally starting to see what this club really is. A sinking ship.


No training? 20 practices next year, and they make up rained out practices (this year they did), unlike other girls programs.

But there is a lot of politics. Many girls on the younger teams, are not correctly placed. They seem to cater to West Babylon and ESM girls.

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