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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


Yeah. They are the best B team

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Moving forward, would this B team be better served by playing in a higher bracket?
Is it better to beat all the B competition or lose to most of the A level competition

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Moving forward, would this B team be better served by playing in a higher bracket?
Is it better to beat all the B competition or lose to most of the A level competition


You get better by playing better teams

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Moving forward, would this B team be better served by playing in a higher bracket?
Is it better to beat all the B competition or lose to most of the A level competition


All they can do is hit the NJ Turnpike and play the teams on their schedule. They are not an A team and it doesn't look like any organization puts two of their teams in the same pool. So they will continue to need to get out of pool play to be able to play A teams. Glad to see they are doing so well.

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


You still have a shot at the A teams every tournament in playoffs. What is teams record in playoffs? Every tournament has a different bracket theory, some put all top teams in one bracket and whoever emerges is easily taking the tournament, some spread a top team or two with weaker teams and the better teams play in playoffs, but shorter games typically. You actually have a much easier path to the finals in most tournaments playing in the lower pools. If your team manages to win a tournament or two by beating A teams in the final, then the discussion of being in a A bracket can begin. I wouldn't be looking to jump headlong into top pool at a top tournament. Going 0-8 gets people on the threads as well, just singing a different tune. Your A team is losing pool games in the top bracket, is this team as good or better?

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


You still have a shot at the A teams every tournament in playoffs. What is teams record in playoffs? Every tournament has a different bracket theory, some put all top teams in one bracket and whoever emerges is easily taking the tournament, some spread a top team or two with weaker teams and the better teams play in playoffs, but shorter games typically. You actually have a much easier path to the finals in most tournaments playing in the lower pools. If your team manages to win a tournament or two by beating A teams in the final, then the discussion of being in a A bracket can begin. I wouldn't be looking to jump headlong into top pool at a top tournament. Going 0-8 gets people on the threads as well, just singing a different tune. Your A team is losing pool games in the top bracket, is this team as good or better?


Didn't make playoffs in Ocean City
1-1 at National Draw - lost to YJ 2022 Russell 7-6 in Finals
0-1 at Lax for the Cure - lost to MD Black 2022 who lost to YJ Russell

I would say they are below Russell's YJ 2022 A team and M&D Black 2022- one or two player difference. A very solid B team who could beat many A teams, just not YJ and M&D. Summer isn't over yet, though.

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


You still have a shot at the A teams every tournament in playoffs. What is teams record in playoffs? Every tournament has a different bracket theory, some put all top teams in one bracket and whoever emerges is easily taking the tournament, some spread a top team or two with weaker teams and the better teams play in playoffs, but shorter games typically. You actually have a much easier path to the finals in most tournaments playing in the lower pools. If your team manages to win a tournament or two by beating A teams in the final, then the discussion of being in a A bracket can begin. I wouldn't be looking to jump headlong into top pool at a top tournament. Going 0-8 gets people on the threads as well, just singing a different tune. Your A team is losing pool games in the top bracket, is this team as good or better?


Didn't make playoffs in Ocean City
1-1 at National Draw - lost to YJ 2022 Russell 7-6 in Finals
0-1 at Lax for the Cure - lost to MD Black 2022 who lost to YJ Russell

I would say they are below Russell's YJ 2022 A team and M&D Black 2022- one or two player difference. A very solid B team who could beat many A teams, just not YJ and M&D. Summer isn't over yet, though.


Sounds like a very solid team nipping on the heels of the top team. Normally you would not see the talent distributed rather evenly between the A and B teams. At some point the best players will be brought to top team and some dropped down. At that point you will see the two teams diverge in competitiveness.

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


You still have a shot at the A teams every tournament in playoffs. What is teams record in playoffs? Every tournament has a different bracket theory, some put all top teams in one bracket and whoever emerges is easily taking the tournament, some spread a top team or two with weaker teams and the better teams play in playoffs, but shorter games typically. You actually have a much easier path to the finals in most tournaments playing in the lower pools. If your team manages to win a tournament or two by beating A teams in the final, then the discussion of being in a A bracket can begin. I wouldn't be looking to jump headlong into top pool at a top tournament. Going 0-8 gets people on the threads as well, just singing a different tune. Your A team is losing pool games in the top bracket, is this team as good or better?


Didn't make playoffs in Ocean City
1-1 at National Draw - lost to YJ 2022 Russell 7-6 in Finals
0-1 at Lax for the Cure - lost to MD Black 2022 who lost to YJ Russell

I would say they are below Russell's YJ 2022 A team and M&D Black 2022- one or two player difference. A very solid B team who could beat many A teams, just not YJ and M&D. Summer isn't over yet, though.


This team has only played together in the three tournaments listed above.. they will continue to improve with time and practice.. that said , no way are they as good as YJ Russell or M&D Black 2022

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YJ 2022 Harney 8-0 in last two tournaments' pool play at ND and LFTC. Not too shabby. Pretty good for a B team with a large roster.


You still have a shot at the A teams every tournament in playoffs. What is teams record in playoffs? Every tournament has a different bracket theory, some put all top teams in one bracket and whoever emerges is easily taking the tournament, some spread a top team or two with weaker teams and the better teams play in playoffs, but shorter games typically. You actually have a much easier path to the finals in most tournaments playing in the lower pools. If your team manages to win a tournament or two by beating A teams in the final, then the discussion of being in a A bracket can begin. I wouldn't be looking to jump headlong into top pool at a top tournament. Going 0-8 gets people on the threads as well, just singing a different tune. Your A team is losing pool games in the top bracket, is this team as good or better?


Didn't make playoffs in Ocean City
1-1 at National Draw - lost to YJ 2022 Russell 7-6 in Finals
0-1 at Lax for the Cure - lost to MD Black 2022 who lost to YJ Russell

I would say they are below Russell's YJ 2022 A team and M&D Black 2022- one or two player difference. A very solid B team who could beat many A teams, just not YJ and M&D. Summer isn't over yet, though.


This team has only played together in the three tournaments listed above.. they will continue to improve with time and practice.. that said , no way are they as good as YJ Russell or M&D Black 2022


Nor should they be expected to be. The point is that they are doing fantastic for a B team.

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B team = rec team

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B team = rec team


go away clown. you obviously don't have a kid on either 2022 team.

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B team = rec team

classless post

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B team. Why bother

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Can Legacy go in and beat TG's this weekend?? Maybe make a statement telling TG that Levy was one of the reasons their program was a top tier team. He seems to be doing the right things down on the south shore.

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They are in different pools. Only way to play each other is if they both place either fisrt, second, etc. in their pool and play each other in fourth game. TG in Pool A, Legacy Pool B.

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They did play and Top Guns won 7-6 in OT, two very good teams, I was impressed with talent on Legacy for a first year team, I'll tell you one thing, my daughter will take try out over there at Legacy at the end of the season to keep our options open. I enjoy TGs but it's always nice for the kids to have options here on the south shore!!

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Strange outcome to Lax Blast today. YJ coaches did not distinguish themselves.

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Strange outcome to Lax Blast today. YJ coaches did not distinguish themselves.


This age group needs to put the politics aside, take the best players from top two teams and make one strong team.

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Strange in what way

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Inexplicably decided not to play final game.

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Pretty sure the A team is a strong team with 3 championships in a row. Stop your whining B mommy.

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Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that?

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Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that?


Not even close to true. Who the heck told you that tale?

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Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that?


Harney team has plenty of girls. Both team coaches decided not to play despite players and parents wanting game to occur.

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YJ Russell won 3 blowout games, YJ Harney played 2 tough ones, the third game was a walk...the coaches rested the top middies In order for them to be "fresh" for the the championship game against Russell... No real reason why we didn't play,.. Other than waiting the hour for a field..

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Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that?


Not even close to true. Who the heck told you that tale?


We were there. Why would the coaches choose not to play? Why forfeit? What conspiracy theory is cooking now?

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Did someone really just say they didn't play because they didn't want to wait an hour? Yes that was it. It wasn't the fact that it would've been a blow out on center stage and no one wanted to see that. You are delusional to think it was about waiting an hour.

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Both teams coaches let all the girls down.

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Why should they not be able or expected to beat the A team ? Coach M not sure i would want you coaching any of our teams

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[quote=Anonymous]Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that

Sounds like a tall tale YJ parents wouldn't allow a team their daughter is on to forfeit. It just doesn't happen.

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Why should they not be able or expected to beat the A team ? Coach M not sure i would want you coaching any of our teams


Coach M? Thought the coaches were coach R and coach H? What team are you talking about?

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[quote=Anonymous]Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that

Sounds like a tall tale YJ parents wouldn't allow a team their daughter is on to forfeit. It just doesn't happen.


Harney parents were told both Russell and Harney coaches decided not to play game because it was YJ vs YJ. Harney coaches later apologized later admitting they made a mistake. Enjoy your T shirts. Safe trip to Delaware.

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[quote=Anonymous]Inexplicably decided not to play final game.
nothing inexplicable. B was missing some girls and a few had prior commitments so they didn't have enough to play championship. No politics here. A is a very strong team with several championships under their belt. B has some really strong players too, why can't it be left at that

Sounds like a tall tale YJ parents wouldn't allow a team their daughter is on to forfeit. It just doesn't happen.



Harney parents were told both Russell and Harney coaches decided not to play game because it was YJ vs YJ. Harney coaches later apologized later admitting they made a mistake. Enjoy your T shirts. Safe trip to Delaware.


Need to know your audience a little better. Nevertheless, we all know they'll see each other

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How about we sll stay home and play Li teams. How would YJ TG EL 91 Legacy and icon all do if they played each other.

Sound like you could get 2 4 team brackets. Break the myth that you hsve to travel and have fun in our back yards and maybe get sometime to enjoy the beach or pool

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I completely agree, lets just run tournaments around here and let everyone else who wants to play LI teams to come to us and play. Its starting to get frustrating traveling to tournaments and just playing a team from LI or worse a team from the same Club in the finals.

Years ago Scotty Craig (WI) decided this with the boys lets just play here and if anyone wants to come and play the best competition in the country they will come to us. Why pay for hotels and travel when we can run the best tournaments in the country right here in our backyard

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I completely agree, lets just run tournaments around here and let everyone else who wants to play LI teams to come to us and play. Its starting to get frustrating traveling to tournaments and just playing a team from LI or worse a team from the same Club in the finals.

Years ago Scotty Craig (WI) decided this with the boys lets just play here and if anyone wants to come and play the best competition in the country they will come to us. Why pay for hotels and travel when we can run the best tournaments in the country right here in our backyard


Easier said than done, but hope it happens.

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The problem on LI is every club wants their piece of the action so they run their own tournament. It would take an independent organization to offer a tournament and then it would need the pressure from the parents to get the clubs to send the teams to it.

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How about we sll stay home and play Li teams. How would YJ TG EL 91 Legacy and icon all do if they played each other.

Sound like you could get 2 4 team brackets. Break the myth that you hsve to travel and have fun in our back yards and maybe get sometime to enjoy the beach or pool


It would be Russell vs Harney in the finals just like it was this weekend. YJ Russell has beaten up on TG, Elevate and Icon, the latter 2 were embarrassing. Please, is including 91 some kind of a joke. Harney is the only team other than M&D worth playing right now.

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I don't believe YJ Russell has played TG this season.

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