It is time for the FOGO defenders and FOGO Dads to take a deep breath and accept this plain fact: the rule makers do not want lacrosse played with the ball on the back of the stick. Fight all you want, but that is what they are going to put into rule. I am not against pinch and pop, but I see the point in a rule against pinch and play. This thread keeps reverting back to the starting point of people complaining, and that along with a petition with 10K signatures is not worth much. Suggest something to have a rule you can live with to the rules committee that severely restrains carrying the ball on the back of the stick, and propose it or get run over. This is not a rule change that is happening because your sons are good at a skill, it is a rule change because the face off X has become an extension of HS varsity wrestling season into spring. And watching wrestling sucks.