I wrote the dangerous fence jumping note. I am okay with my son jumping fences growing up. There is a time for that. 5 minutes before a lacrosse game jumping a fence with no top bar so that it cannot be jumped is NOT that time.

I am okay with holdbacks - I think these parents are harming more than helping their kids so their choice.

When I make a purchase I expect quality. Posting a buyer beware response to my disappointment is not whining

Thanks for sharing your family's Vietnam & WWII stories. I am sure your dad and grandad are happy to have defended your right to anonymously post on a web forum disparaging other anonymous posters on a web forum