when we played you in the fall there were no 9th graders allowed in the u15 division. Most eigth graders in ny are late 97 and 98. To have jan 1997 in eigth grade in ny is not heard of. I agree u15 does allow sept 1 1996 dates but we played a tournament in which that was not possible. I do not know if it happens there all the time. Good teams only get better playing better compitition.