Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

Yes struck a nerve , when people post gibberish like your post it’s bothersome .Good coaches encourage players to be selfish all the time . Do you not think when Skane is playing Amonte does not encourage her to keep the ball and go the goal even when a teammate may be open , or do you not believe Levy has encouraged Ortega to be more selfish as she tends to not be that type of player but you want the ball in her stick more often than not .Spallina was telling Massera to keep shooting against UNC even thou she was 2 for 11 and taking some low percentage shots because she is their best player .
Shots on goal is a silly stat , any player can throw the ball into the goalies stick .

Let me help you out.

Definition of "Selfish" - : concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.

Your lack of understanding of the game is rivaled by your limited understanding of the meaning of words.

Doing what the coach wants is not selfish. Playing within a teams offensive set, scheme or specific play is not being selfish. Making the right play (including going to the goal and shooting) in settled situations, unsettled situations or transition is not selfish when the situation dictates it.

As for your obsession with "Shot's on Goal" being a silly stat it would suggest that you do not understand the simple fact that you can not score if the shot is not on goal. Your ignorance implies that you believe coaches would rather have players missing the cage with their shots. The reality is that good Attackers do what their coaches want, play as part of a team, help their teammates and make the players around them better all while taking high percentage quality shots that are on goal.

Career Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage....

****Shooting % --- SOG %

North - .558 - .803

Ortega - .586 - .786

Cordingley - .481 - .791

Scane - .542 - .774

Tyrrell - .564 - .807

Hawryschuk - .499 - .782

Sears - .511 - .790

Rosenzwieg - .487 - .737

Masera - .536 - .791

Selfish players will not have numbers anywhere near the numbers that the above players have. Most likely they will put below .650% of their shots on goal and they will shoot below .400%. The really selfish ones will be below .375%.

Yes, in the end, selfish players always hurt their team. They get in the way of their teammates, they shoot when the should not, they hold the ball too long, they turn the ball over too often, they do not occupy their defender while others are dodging, they do not make the "one more" pass when they should, they hinder their teammates, they take foolish shots etc... they try to go to goal almost every time they get the ball, they have no situational awareness and a limited lacrosse IQ. The reason the selfish players numbers are low is because they take shots that should never be taken given the situation on the field at the time. Will they score some goals? Yes, but their selfish play will come back to hurt their team when it matters most in close and in meaningful games vs quality opponents i.e. Playoffs etc... Watch as they take an ill-advised shot and the goalie makes an easy save and the ball goes the other way for a goal. Watch as they run to the goal and shoot when their team is down a player instead of killing the penalty, watch as they try to force it when the right thing to do is move the ball.... The list goes on and on and it's ugly to watch, it's bad lacrosse and it does in fact hurt the team. No, good coaches do not encourage or allow selfish play.

Complete and long winded nonsense. I love your made up nonsense stats.

Just checked the career stats for Ortega, Tyrrell, Hawryschuk, Sears and Mesera and the numbers posted above are accurate, no reason to think that the others aren't accurate as well.

assessment above is a bit long winded but it is also a very accurate assessment of selfish players AKA Ball Hogs.