Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did some SB research because numbers seemed off ( not shocked ) was actually interesting to look back on box scores during Spallina’s tenure they are 36 -25 vs Top 20 opponents was interesting to look at results before he arrived they were terrible. Every season on their archive has the rank of teams on their schedule. Regardless so glad games start this week

The numbers are not off.

You looked at where the opponents were ranked when the games were played, rankings change throughout the season based on performance. The numbers in the previous post reflect Stony Brooks Record vs the opponents actual end of season "Final Ranking" which is the only ranking worth anything. Just because a team is Ranked #1 doesn't mean we crown them National Champions, they actually have to play the games and we see where they end up.

You can beat a team that was ranked 10th on March 1st but if that team is not ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season you did not beat the number 10 team.

Since 2012, Stony Brook is 5 - 21 vs Top 10 Teams (end of season ranking).

Since 2012, Stony Brook is 22 - 25 vs Top 20 Teams (end of season ranking).


Just looked quickly at some of their schedules on line:

2021 - schedule has USC ranked 13. USC was not Ranked in the Top 20 in the Final Ranking.
2019 - schedule has Hopkins ranked 1. Hopkins was not Ranked in the Top 20 in the Final Ranking.
2018 - schedule has USC ranked 5. USC was not Ranked in the Top 20 in the Final Ranking.
2017 - schedule has Towson ranked 19. Towson was not Ranked in the Top 20 in the Final Ranking.

I'm sure there are several more examples in previous years.

Did you also count wins over UMBC ranked #4 and Albany ranked # 2 as they are listed on the schedule? (wouldn't be shocked)

Try to spin it any way you want but the numbers are accurate.

Did not use AE tourn ranks as ranked games so come on and also if you play a team and at the time of the game the team is ranked it’s beating a ranked a opponent on your in season resume . You also can spin it however you want. I understand what you are saying but the ncaa tournament doesn’t operate that way. Be interesting to see other teams in that 6-15 area ranking Good interesting conversation

Nah, if a team falls out of the rankings than you did not beat a ranked team. I don't see any spin in the post that you are responding to, the actual record is the record, it's not spin. It is a fact not opinion that SBU has not done very well against Top 10 teams (nothing wrong with that very few teams do well vs Top 10 teams).

Maybe I am wrong but it seems that Stony Brook usually gets ranked high in the preseason, plays a significantly weaker schedule than the majority of teams that are ranked in the Top 20 therefor they do not lose many games and they remain ranked high throughout the season. Their Strength of Schedule is probably on par with programs like USC and Stanford who over the years have had some success and have been ranked fairly high from time to time but are usually exposed come tournament time. Unfortunately you can not use a teams record as a barometer in Women's Lacrosse when comparing teams from different conferences due to the fact that the level of competition varies so greatly. Some years, teams like UVA, Duke, Penn State, Hopkins might have to play UNC, BC, Northwestern or Maryland 2 or even 3 times because of conference and NCAA tournaments.