I was at the tourney where the Preds played some elite teams earlier this fall. They aren't very good and not AAA. However, they had a lot of kids for a new venture at the grad-levels I saw. If they can stick together they will be decent and attract more bodies. Did they have the talent to reach Hawks, ML or NL...not from what I saw but that could change. That said, I suspect they could give some of the other clubs like BLC a run for their money by the time spring HOCO rolls around. My 2-cents.