I don't think they have elite talent. Obviously they're well-coached. In the past, TG got blown out by most of these teams. I think the gap has closed somewhat, but they're not on the level of other teams such as MD, Heros, YJ. They've never beaten any of these teams (I don't think) let alone done so on a consistent basis & that's why they're not top tier! Lets not group them & TG together, no matter what the score of their last matchup was. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Solid team but not elite. When has TG 16 won a Draw, CNC, etc??