Right.....so the 91 dad's can come in here and say things like " machine and rage are on another level " which actually isn't true . Yes machine is but rage is the step child that never will be machine . And what you're saying is no one can come on here and state facts rebutting what you fools say ? I live in the real world with real facts not make believe like you rage dad . So if you don't like hearing the facts then why don't you find something else to do besides coming in here . Rage is not machine never will be and they have been beaten several times , face the facts . Go pay your 4k