Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok, original poster again... I'm dealing with two stunands so this will be my last post, but please feel free to educate me further since I don't have a clue. To the first stunad, I was making an argument for a GRADE-BASED WSYL so that they could truly get the best 7th graders playing in the same place at the same time. I was basically saying the complaining about holdbacks has to stop. I was taking a pro grade-based stance, an opinion. You threw mud. I love when my son goes up against older boys because HE likes the challenge.

To stunad two Long Island has a population of almost 8 million people now - you can find this information in multiple ways on the internet. I do my homework before I post. Please tell me you don't live on the island. Also - you are telling me that no one on the island holds back their kids in kindergarten or 1st grade due to academic, social, or development issues? If you think that the answer is no, then you are truly one of the dumbest people on the planet. I talked about different types of holdbacks. ALL teams have holdbacks. All of them. Some have more than others - my point is: who cares?

The two of you stunands chose to pick and choose arguments that make no sense. Thankfully, I was able to have a decent discussion with someone on this thread who made good counterpoints (to witch I agreed with to a certain extent).


Yo. Stop with the verbal vomit. Blah blah blah. Answer the guys question. What top 13u team will be missing from the qualifiers? Simple question.

I am as well versed as probably anyone on the 2024 teams, so I’m going to give you a very discrete little hint. NONE.

This is not about whether you mind your kid playing against holdbacks or not. Personally I think it’s a positive having good players play up, if they are capable. Playing down is a whole different conversation but we’ll hold that for another time.

Plain and simple, almost every top team is over 50% holdbacks, and most are more like 80% holdbacks, or even more. Simply, these teams don’t have the numbers to field a 13u team without their holdbacks.

Are you following? Not about what I think of holdback teams. It’s about 13u players.

DMV HoCo elite division teams have almost no 13u players. No 13u players means no WSYL for you.

So. Back to the same question. You claim that not all top tier 13u teams will be at the qualifiers. What teams will be missing???