Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question to the MD HoCo elite division holdback parents.

What does it feel like when your sons “elite” team of cheaters loses to my sons LI team which is a year (or more) younger than your kids sorry team of cheaters.

Mad? Sad? Ashamed? Guilt? Embarrassed? Jealous?

Or all of the above?


Just keep telling yourself and junior whatever you think is best. Good luck in Denver AND at UMass in July.


Is that you Madlax holdback daddy? So why do you think all of the MD cheater teams are so, sooo bad, that they have to play down a year just to be able to compete with the far superior LI teams? Bad coaching? Bad players? Bad parents? Bad clubs? Maybe it just goes back to the age old truth... “cheaters never prosper”. Or maybe... “what goes around, comes around”.

And since there is no older team than Madlax anywhere, obviously this applies more to your kids sleezey team than anyone else’s. So thought you might have some insights for us.



This post is almost to dumb to comment on but here it goes.

First, in case you haven't heard MD plays in a grade based system (notIntelligent, I agree but it is what it is). I am not aware of anyone playing on a team below their grade so the continuous calling of teams "cheaters" is wrong. Debate the merits of age vs. grade based all you want, but when someone follows the rules their league/tournament plays under it is not cheating.

Second, the good old "no older team than Madlax". You have no idea the ages of the kids on the Madlax, or any other team. I am very aware that there are a fair number of "on age" kids on Madlax and the vast majority of "holdbacks" are mid/late summer birthdays (in other words 1 to 2 months off age) but keep spouting "fake news" about how the poor little LI kids are all a year+ younger if it makes you feel better, no one in MD cares and you are simply wrong, that is a fact.

Third, "so, sooo bad". Such a notIntelligent comment hard to even respond but the reality is that a good number of these kids will go on to play at some of the top high school programs in the country and then go on to top colleges. If this is your definition of so bad then we will take being bad. Feel free to take a look at the UA Top 25, 7 teams in the top 25 are fed by HoCo elite (4 LI teams in the top 10 vs. 3 HoCo). Then take a look at the top ranked recruits and where they are from.

Fourth, if this is such a major issue for the LI teams then here is an idea, don't play in grade based tournaments. If LI lacrosse is "far suprior" as you say then stay on the island, hit the road for the WSYL, proclaim yourself the masters of the 2024 age group and enjoy yourself. If the best lacrosse is on LI then stay there and compete against the best. The constant complaining and moaning has become pathetic but is actually pretty smart. You have created a win-win for yourself. If you lose to a MD team then it is because every kid on the team is 1+ years older, if you win then you can continue to believe in the superiority of LI lacrosse since you beat a team in your mind that is "playing down".

I will simply end this with a quote from Col. Nathan R. Jessep: "Either way, I don't give a darn, what you think you are entitled to!"