Yes, the "real" holdback teams....granted, NLF is great competition, but please put it into perspective [/quote]

Are they better than BL or Freedom?[/quote]

Without a doubt, better than both.[/quote]

Stop. They lost to Mesa last year. Mesa is better than HHH too. [/quote]

Sure thing, if you call a pre -season scrimmage a real game then yes, Mesa did beat HHH without half of the triple HHH team there. In a real season game, Mesa has no chance. Good luck to Mesa this year, I am hearing all good things about the club.