Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually, watching college lacrosse, I groan when the many middies come back on D because they just don't get it. Weak links. They are the ones who get beat on the regular because they don't know how to play the position, regardless of their speed or stick skills. An offensive player will just dodge or roll right around them and catch them flat-footed.

Middies are getting beat on D by their opponents middies.....AKA, their opponents best players. We get it, D is very important. But stop with the defenders are the most important position. The HS teams mentioned are very good at winning because they have more kids playing the game than other towns and they put the extra work in. Their defenders are their second middie line.....aka very good players but not as good as their middie starters.



Your logic only works if you buy the premise that the middies are the best players. You can't build a valid argument on a false premise.

You and I, and whomever else is weighing in, are never going to agree on this. Never, never, never.


We don't have to agree. We will let the best college coaches that recruited these kids first and IL mag settle it. Check out the positions.

2017 ILWomen Top 40 Young Gun Senior Rankings
1. Elizabeth Hillman | M | Bel Air (Md.) | North Carolina

2. Maddie Jenner | A/M | McDonogh (Md.) | Duke

3. Sarah Reznick | G | Long Beach (N.Y.) | Florida

4. Cassidy Weeks | M | Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.) | Boston College

5. Erin Bakes | M | Ransom Everglades (Fla.) | USC

6. Hannah Mardiney | A | Notre Dame Prep (Md.) | Florida

7. Megan Carney | A | John Paul II (Texas) | Syracuse

8. Jennifer Medjid | A | Garden City (N.Y.) | Boston College

9. Julia Hoffman | A | McDonogh (Md.) | Maryland

10. Madison Rielly | A | Manhasset (N.Y.) | Maryland

11. Emma Jaques | M | Darien (Conn.) | Northwestern

12. Elle Hansen | M | Cohasset (Mass.) | Northwestern

13. Caitlyn Mossman | A | Notre Dame Prep (Md.) | Boston College

14. Sarah Cooper | D | Notre Dame Prep (Md.) | Syracuse

15. Anna Callahan | A/M | Glenelg (Md.) | Duke

16. Isabelle Scane | M | Cranbrook Kingswood (Mich.) | Northwestern

17. Darby Welsh | M | St. Paul’s School for Girls (Md.) | Maryland

18. Taylor Suplee | G | Southern (Md.) | Penn State

19. Tayler Warehime | M | Manchester Valley (Md.) | North Carolina

20. Courtney Weeks | M | Bayport-Blue Point (N.Y.) | Boston College

21. Chloe Johnson | M | Magruder (Md.) | Ohio State

22. Elizabeth Farnsworth | M | Hutchison School (Tenn.) | Virginia

23. Madison Mote | M | Bishop Ireton (Va.) | Notre Dame

24. Olivia Rubin | M | Bryn Mawr (Md.) | Duke

25. Lexi LeDoyen | A | Bishop Ireton (Va.) | Syracuse

26. Meaghan Tyrrell | A | Mount Sinai (N.Y.) | Syracuse

27. Madison Doucette | G | Unionville (Pa.) | Northwestern

28. Shannon Berry | M | Ward Melville (N.Y.) | Princeton

29. Brooklyn Neumen | M | Rockford (Mich.) | North Carolina

30. Katie Detwiler | M | Archbishop Carroll (Pa.) | Loyola

31. Lillie Kloak | M | Ridgewood (N.J.) | Virginia

32. Shay Clevenger | D | Marriotts Ridge (Md.) | Louisville

33. Jillian Wilson | M | Gerstell Academy (Md.) | Loyola

34. Julia Cooper | G | McDonogh (Md.) | Stanford

35. Emerson Cabrera | M | Northport (N.Y.) | Florida

36. Sophia LeRose | G | Torrey Pines (Calif.) | Duke

37. Kennedy Lynch | M | Garrison Forest (Md.) | Maryland

38. Helen Louise Johnson | M | Summit (N.J.) | Stanford

39. Marina Miller | M | Pine-Richland (Pa.) | Penn State

40. Maddie Ellis | M | Vero Beach (Fla.) | Florida


And again, you build your premise on something that is subjective. I've been on here for years, those rankings come under fire year after year.

Yes, they come under fire year after year by the parents of players who are not recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by the coaches who are the best at identifying and recruiting the top talent.

Not saying the rankings are perfect but know many of the girls on the list and they are very, very good players. Editor of ILWomen puts this together and puts a ton of time into it speaking with many college coaches, high school coaches, and club coaches and personally watched several times many of these girls and many who didn't make the list.