Look, I'm not arguing with your statements, but club is certainly pay to play. Example: my son makes team, I get bill for 2k. I pay said bill. Son goes to every practice and busts his butt, he is not as good as middie A. He doesn't get same playing time. I complain to coach. What are the chances he refunds my money because my son is not playing enough? Or is he going to pro rate for playing time? Or should I expect him to be moved to B team? It's 100% pay to play gents.