Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.


Is the West Islip dynasty done ? - yes, but it won't be replaced either. Since their last titles in 2012 (county,LI,state ) only Ward Melville has done that. Smithtown East and West were supposed to replace WI, but for all the talent SW did NOTHING and SE has the last two county titles but can't get off the island. So gloat all you want about commitments Smithtown because you haven't put up any bragging rights for successor to WI or WM.
As far as college commitments, the post above has it right. Since 2012 the early recruiting has hurt the WI kids, as the program doesn't bring up too many underclassmen and most don't play club in high school in addition to summer school team. The program does have to remedy this somehow by placing the younger H.S. teams in better tournaments and being more hands on with the youth program and the younger summer h.s. teams. That being said WI did beat the much hyped SW and WM teams who had a lot more D1 commits in 2014 to get to another county title game with an overachieving group. The coaching and unselfish players made the difference. We will be fine.


Who are you referring to when you state "we will be fine"?

Please do not put wardmelville in the same class as West Islip. We all know that wm has a long history of great lacrosse but their dynasty was a long long time ago. They have won exactly 1 county championship in the past 15 years and everyone knows there is an asterisk next to it.

Please stop the backward thinking regarding HS summer teams. Not bringing underclassmen up to varsity has very little impact on recruiting. HS lacrosse has very little impact on recruiting.

Smithtown East has won back to back County Championships until they are beaten they are the new dynasty. West Islip has as good of a chance as anyone to knock them off.

West Islip needs to have their best players spend some time playing with the best.