i agree, i think the biggest problem with some of these clubs is that they place their B caliber 3/4 teams into the A brackets and get demolished. when you lose games 20-0 , i am not sure how that can be a great experience for any player. Imagine the 3 attack, sitting on the field, never even seeing the ball after driving to a tourney. or the goalies confidence as he spends an entire game digging the ball out of the net. Tristate was in the B division and they held their own, which is fine for a first year team. I believe, Express North was the same . at the younger ages, just giving players good coaching and reps in a game goes a long way