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BOTC is opening our Fall 2014 through Summer 2015 thread covering the Girls 2021 age group.

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How many current YJ from the 2nd and 3rd team are trying out elsewhere and why?

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I was told since merger with 91 many are leaving

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Why would they leave?

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I was told since merger with 91 many are leaving

YJ merged with 91?????

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My daughter just finished her 1st year on the top YJ team and we had a great experience. We didn't know a soul and were immediatley treated like family.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


YJ will get at least two shots next summer, looks like M&D going to National Draw and Lax for the Cure. Lost 3-5 this summer, will get them next year!!!

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My daughter just finished her 1st year on the top YJ team and we had a great experience. We didn't know a soul and were immediatley treated like family.


Don't get too comfortable.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Usually lots of movement at the young ages in most strong clubs, 8th 9 th grade the roster changes settle down, and the teams become what they are, for now it is a battle for supremacy between players on each team and even team status amongst other clubs.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.


We will look back and laugh next season.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


Difference is M&D won't blow up, losing coaches and players and fizzle out.

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M&D is an elite program and 2021 Black is an elite team. However, as time goes by, the talent gap closes and the team concept is challenged by recruiting pressures.

The key is not only assembling talent, but building a team that can withstand those pressures.

Lots of good teams at 2021. Good luck to all!

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


It's a YJ run tournament, so I would assume that she had. Don't see too many behind the back goals in 6th grade girls lacrosse.

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[quote=Anonymous]M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


It's a YJ run tournament, so I would assume that she had. Don't see too many behind the back goals in 6th grade

Who cares if some hot dog scores behing the back in 6 th grade . 90 percent of top travel team kids can shoot behind their back at that age it's just most reasonable parents tell them not to.

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Actually, a behind the back shot is an effective weapon in any player's arsenal. Many of the top scorer's in top level lacrosse use that shot to score. It's part of the game. Not saying that a 6th grader needs it to prove her worth, but more power to the kid that can wield their stick at the higest of levels and it sure does not make them "hot dogs."

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Have watched many of the Div 1 final 4 championships and have never seen a behind the back shot ever ! - in fact at the last PAL game i was at a couple of the girls were fooling around with the behind the back shots and were getting called for dangerous shots - so no - that shot is a show off shot nothing else

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


How did they do against the YJ team? YJ had about half their blue team there but M&D can only play who shows-up.

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Actually, a behind the back shot is an effective weapon in any player's arsenal. Many of the top scorer's in top level lacrosse use that shot to score. It's part of the game. Not saying that a 6th grader needs it to prove her worth, but more power to the kid that can wield their stick at the higest of levels and it sure does not make them "hot dogs."


Your an idiot. Not exactly a difficult shot to make even for a 6th grader mainly because they are playing against other 6th graders. Nothing more annoying than a kid passing up a high percentage shot to run into position for the behind the back hot dog shot. Rarely a kid catches the ball running out of angle so the behind the back increases that angle which I have no problem with it.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


How did they do against the YJ team? YJ had about half their blue team there but M&D can only play who shows-up.


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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


Yes, the ref thought her daughters team was very good.

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Lot's of M&D talk on here...and I know YJ top team at this age is very good. What are the other top teams at 2021?

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M&D is the class of this age group. Excellent on the draw and they come up with every ground ball. This is what separates them from the rest. They always have the ball.

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TG 2020 from last year was a stronger team than the M&D team this year as 6th graders.

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M&D is the class of this age group. Excellent on the draw and they come up with every ground ball. This is what separates them from the rest. They always have the ball.


Very impressive group at M&D, I am looking forward to the summer when both teams are at full strength. I cannot talk for M&D but several top YJ players were not at this event.

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TG 2020 from last year was a stronger team than the M&D team this year as 6th graders.


Perhaps, but that will fade to black as the team has changed significantly this off season. I hope they continue to be good but great seems like a distant memory, only time will tell.

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YJ will be even stronger next year after they drop a couple weak links, like the siblings and add some of the very good new talent from the tryout.

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LOL...Congrats to Top Guns 2020!

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.


If you like the team concept in lacrosse then you were better off with SL as coach rather than SS. He promoted that concept. SS to her credit lived and thrived as an isolation player, one of the best ISO players ever. That is what she will be coaching too, great for the couple kids she deems worthy, frustrating for the rest. That being said, 2020 group of parents are the most obnoxious and annoying group ever. This isn't even your age group thread and you have to come on here and make it about you. I thought the dismantling of the 2020 black team would quite all you chest pounders down, your worse than ever. Maybe that's half the reason all the players and coach ditched the team.

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Very well said!

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.


If you like the team concept in lacrosse then you were better off with SL as coach rather than SS. He promoted that concept. SS to her credit lived and thrived as an isolation player, one of the best ISO players ever. That is what she will be coaching too, great for the couple kids she deems worthy, frustrating for the rest. That being said, 2020 group of parents are the most obnoxious and annoying group ever. This isn't even your age group thread and you have to come on here and make it about you. I thought the dismantling of the 2020 black team would quite all you chest pounders down, your worse than ever. Maybe that's half the reason all the players and coach ditched the team.


Well said except SL promotes the team concept is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. TG 2020 played team concept in blowout games only otherwise it was all thru one kid. East Islip the offense has been run thru 1 kid for years and this year will be no different. 2015 TG slightly different , all offense run thru 2 kids. Not saying he does it out of anything other than necessity but team concept is laughable.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?


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Also, same questions as above regarding Yellow Jackets.

Did YJ and M&D play last year? If so, I assume the game(s) wes (were) close?

Two evenly matched teams? If so, fun rivalry to watch in the coming years.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.


If you like the team concept in lacrosse then you were better off with SL as coach rather than SS. He promoted that concept. SS to her credit lived and thrived as an isolation player, one of the best ISO players ever. That is what she will be coaching too, great for the couple kids she deems worthy, frustrating for the rest. That being said, 2020 group of parents are the most obnoxious and annoying group ever. This isn't even your age group thread and you have to come on here and make it about you. I thought the dismantling of the 2020 black team would quite all you chest pounders down, your worse than ever. Maybe that's half the reason all the players and coach ditched the team.


Well said except SL promotes the team concept is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. TG 2020 played team concept in blowout games only otherwise it was all thru one kid. East Islip the offense has been run thru 1 kid for years and this year will be no different. 2015 TG slightly different , all offense run thru 2 kids. Not saying he does it out of anything other than necessity but team concept is laughable.


Actually if you watched all those 2020 games, you have it backwards. The isolation player feasted relentlessly on the weak teams and struggled against the tough defense, those games were won through team play. On the HS level running plays through and to certain girls is not the same thing as isolation play. Isolation means clear out fan, get out of the way, one girl is gonna try to dodge, spin bull her way to goal, no matter double or triple team defense. Completely different than running set plays to a cutting shooter, even if it is the same shooter over and over it is still team play.

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I have an idea. Now that we have declared Tog Guns 2020 the best team in the 2021 age group, why don't we move all discussion of that team to the 2020 board?

Thanks!

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.

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Just reading this thread and wanted to say this...I did not see anybody say M&D was untouchable or anything close to that.

Any of these teams can, and all of them will be defeated at some point. However, that does not mean that what the prior poster stated is not true...maybe that team does have a lot of good players and maybe they are good on both ends of the field.

And as far as that goes, Yellow Jackets is well known for bringing teams to Maryland that conveniently leave behind some of the lesser players and then claiming they did not have their full team. In some cases---not saying that was the case here---they brought only who they wanted to bring and left some of the other kids home on purpose.

I have absolutely seen this in the older age groups. So, just like M&D is not untouchable (and I am SURE they are not) I also know that "two towns and some friends" can have a whole range of meanings.

The fact that you seem to express enthusiasm over somebody losing by only 5 3 or 4 goals in a short game tells me that M&D must be a pretty solid squad, even if not untouchable.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

That crossfire team is not any sort of representation of YJ's best. It is true it has a few of the blue players, but also has some gold team players that are even on the bottom end of that team (mainly baggage but their crazy dads pressured so much the coach couldn't say no).

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

That crossfire team is not any sort of representation of YJ's best. It is true it has a few of the blue players, but also has some gold team players that are even on the bottom end of that team (mainly baggage but their crazy dads pressured so much the coach couldn't say no).


Are you insane? Unless you know the Crossfire team, the coach and their families..shut up already!

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1


8-3? What game were you watching? I watched a 6-4 game, congrats on that.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1

That crossfire team is not any sort of representation of YJ's best. It is true it has a few of the blue players, but also has some gold team players that are even on the bottom end of that team (mainly baggage but their crazy dads pressured so much the coach couldn't say no).


It looks like someone's daughter wasn't asked to play

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?



One thing only, they dominate the draw. Field play is on par with others maybe below other top teams. When you win nearly every draw, you are a tough team to beat.


This is not the case at all. In fact, the draw is one area the team needs to improve in. Unlike many teams, they put some of their highly skilled players on defense. They stay in front of their girls and are very good at clearing the ball. I agree they are relentless on ground balls. It is not one or two girls that dominate the game. They come at you in waves and really there is no drop down when certain players come off the field.


Didn't M&D get tested by Crossfire this weekend, a team comprised of 2 towns and a few friends this weekend. I would be careful before I put them in the untouchable category.


Don't know what you are talking about. This weekend M&D Beat TLC Red 10-4, YJ(Whatever it was they sent down) 8-3, Heros Green 11-2 and TLC White 16-1


8-3? What game were you watching? I watched a 6-4 game, congrats on that.


It was actually 7-4

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.

Sad part is they also ruined some other 2021's experience that are not "crossfire" girls, experiences displacing them and making them push up and play with an older team that ignored them at the tournament. No wonder they don't want to pass to certain girls during the season. The resent each other.

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And this is nothing new. Inside the Yellow Jackets thread on this site there was a blow up about 2 years ago when the 2016 team pulled the same stunt at another Maryland Tournament...I just re-read it...they team was called Team Misc.

It was comprised of the top players on the 16 teams ("a couple towns and some friends") and was designed to let the "elite" show their stuff without the bottom feeders dragging them down.

I believe there are other instances as well but I lost my patience going through the thread looking for them.

Here's the thing...have you EVER heard of any other club doing this? EVER? Does wonders for team unity and those 11-12 year old girls a/k/a "teammates" that were not invited.

But again, that is indeed how they roll.

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.


At 2020, first came lady rebels, some people felt left out, got off their asses and started green machine. At 2021, first came crossefire, some people felt left out.... you get the picture.

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.


At 2020, first came lady rebels, some people felt left out, got off their asses and started green machine. At 2021, first came crossefire, some people felt left out.... you get the picture.


Crossfire has been playing together long before this past weekend...no clue why they played under YJ but it's the same girls for wuite some time.

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Just reading this thread and wanted to say this...I did not see anybody say M&D was untouchable or anything close to that.

Any of these teams can, and all of them will be defeated at some point. However, that does not mean that what the prior poster stated is not true...maybe that team does have a lot of good players and maybe they are good on both ends of the field.

And as far as that goes, Yellow Jackets is well known for bringing teams to Maryland that conveniently leave behind some of the lesser players and then claiming they did not have their full team. In some cases---not saying that was the case here---they brought only who they wanted to bring and left some of the other kids home on purpose.

I have absolutely seen this in the older age groups. So, just like M&D is not untouchable (and I am SURE they are not) I also know that "two towns and some friends" can have a whole range of meanings.

The fact that you seem to express enthusiasm over somebody losing by only 5 3 or 4 goals in a short game tells me that M&D must be a pretty solid squad, even if not untouchable.


M&D has not lost to YJ the two times they played so they are the champs until someone beats them. M&D can only play who shows-up so YJ nation just has to deal with it until this summer. As for the above, page 397 of the Top Guns forum started to address this long before the tourney results were finalized. The title of the entry by the YJ organization for the 2021 age group was YJ-Miller and not YJ-Blue. This was done to distinguish the top summer travel team from this combination of YJ and non-YJ players, many of which are part of the Crossfire team. No offense to the non-YJ players but this does create problems within the YJ organization as several YJ 2021 players were "stuck" with 2020 age teams and a couple of others were closed out of registration because the non-YJ players filled up the allowable roster spots. Some of these players are very good and would have added value.

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.


At 2020, first came lady rebels, some people felt left out, got off their asses and started green machine. At 2021, first came crossefire, some people felt left out.... you get the picture.


Crossfire has been playing together long before this past weekend...no clue why they played under YJ but it's the same girls for wuite some time.


This is not about the non-YJ Crossfire girls, they are innocent participants in this event. However, it negatively impacted several current YJ players and thus is being discussed critically. I agree with that criticism.

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M+D are very skilled but careful anointing a "best" team one tournament jnto fall ball.

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Nobody anointed a best team. Just talking about the top teams. Nothing...and I mean NOTHING...is less predictable than the collective efforts of 11 and 12 year old girls.

However, there are enough games that have been played in the last 6 months to start talking about what teams seem to playing the best. M&D and Yellow Jackets are the usual suspects. I think the discussion was intended to be, what makes those two teams so strong. One person said draw control for M&D.

Just curious what other attributes M&D and Yellow Jackets possess at 2021 that make them good teams? And by all means, if there is another team anybody wants to talk about, let's do it.

I have not seen M&D...that's why I asked the question. I know one thing, it is pretty inspiring to watch any of these top teams at this age group and see kids that age playing at a high level.

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Nobody anointed a best team. Just talking about the top teams. Nothing...and I mean NOTHING...is less predictable than the collective efforts of 11 and 12 year old girls.

However, there are enough games that have been played in the last 6 months to start talking about what teams seem to playing the best. M&D and Yellow Jackets are the usual suspects. I think the discussion was intended to be, what makes those two teams so strong. One person said draw control for M&D.

Just curious what other attributes M&D and Yellow Jackets possess at 2021 that make them good teams? And by all means, if there is another team anybody wants to talk about, let's do it.

I have not seen M&D...that's why I asked the question. I know one thing, it is pretty inspiring to watch any of these top teams at this age group and see kids that age playing at a high level.


M&D is not great at draw control. It is actually one of their few weaknesses at this point. The team that gave M&D the most trouble last year was Redshirts out of Baltimore. They played 5 times and M&D was 4-0-1 against them, but that tie was the only game that M&D didn't win against 2021 competition last year. They lost 3 games all year, 2 against 2019 teams and one to Skywalkers 2020 Blue.

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And this is nothing new. Inside the Yellow Jackets thread on this site there was a blow up about 2 years ago when the 2016 team pulled the same stunt at another Maryland Tournament...I just re-read it...they team was called Team Misc.

It was comprised of the top players on the 16 teams ("a couple towns and some friends") and was designed to let the "elite" show their stuff without the bottom feeders dragging them down.

I believe there are other instances as well but I lost my patience going through the thread looking for them.

Here's the thing...have you EVER heard of any other club doing this? EVER? Does wonders for team unity and those 11-12 year old girls a/k/a "teammates" that were not invited.

But again, that is indeed how they roll.


You really must be a giant loser, you go back 2 years to find nonsense and then just add in your own ignorant thoughts about a team that was put into a tournament by a parent in a tournament that YJ did not attend." Does wonders for team unity", well it must have because I believe that is about the time YJ 2016 went on a major winning streak beating MD 4-5 times in a row and TG 3-4 times in a row. So much for unity.

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In these situations, somebody's daughter is ALWAYS not asked to play.

"Sorry fellow team member that is 18th or 19th on the roster, you cannot play with the Yello....errr....Team Crossfire this week because this is "just a couple towns and some friends."

That's the way they roll.

Sad part is they also ruined some other 2021's experience that are not "crossfire" girls, experiences displacing them and making them push up and play with an older team that ignored them at the tournament. No wonder they don't want to pass to certain girls during the season. The resent each other.


Maybe those girls who were displaced just are not that good.

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It's not nonsense. It is disloyalty and selfishness taken to the highest degree.

And, those families that have been excluded from these various teams tend to agree. Just ask them.




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Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.

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Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.


What two towns is crossfire from?

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And the town of Island.

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Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.



Then don't put yourselves in under the YJ banner, some might think that was done to kiss CR butt, like letting her use your restaurant for the YJ party etc. Parentsxlet your kids abilities speak for themselves and stop playing the political nonsense , that is if your kid is really that good .

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Disloyalty? Selfishness? displacing?

Crossfire is two towns that didn't have enough kids to create their own travel team a few years back so they got together and added a few kids from nearby towns to fill out a roster. The team has YJ, TG, BB and Blue Devils players on it. It's intent was to give the girls an opportunity to play in tournaments that their teams weren't entered in or, in the case of last weekend, not enough players were entered.
If anyone was watching the YJ rosters when registration for the event was closed there were only 7 2021s registered and they were added into the 2020 teams. There was no 2021 team registered. The CF coaches contact YJ, ask to pull the 4 CF kids off the YJ 2020 rosters and bring the rest of their team down.
No displacement, there was never a YJ 2021 registered. No disloyalty, if there was a full team the girls would have played for their YJ teams. No selfishness, if your kid lived in their school districts they would have been on the team.
No drama, definitely not a showcase team, just a bunch of kids that play in local tournaments outside of their travel programs when they can. This was their first trip off the island.
M&D has a very good team but give CF some credit, they were down 4 to 0, came back and road 4 to 3 into the final few minutes of play.


That is absolutely incorrect. There was well over a dozen YJ 2021 players on two different mixed rosters with 2020 players. They easily could have run an effective 2021 team with that group and other girls that were shut out of registration due to this Crossfire nonsense. If you look at the roster that attended, 15 of the girls. Have a YJ affiliation and althought they may also have a crossfire relationship, YJ could have easily run a 2021 team without the non-YJ Crossfire players. Not every player on the roster played for Crossfire before this tourney so it was not just team Crossfire. Several YJ Blue and Gold 2021 played on a 2020 team at this tourney to accommodate non-YJ Crossfire players which is absolute BS.

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.

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Good luck with that...another guy from one of those towns did same thing a couple years ago on a year older team and was crucified. Lol.

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.


The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.

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So wait. You mean this wasn't simply a bunch of blue collar girls from two towns (and some friends) thrown together to just go out there, toss the ball 'round best they could, aw shucks, just have a little fun?

You mean to tell us that some kids were pushed to another team and it had nothing to do with that wholesome, homespun, story we were reading above?

You, know, these stories are almost always too good to be true. Here I was thinking the stars aligned and a bunch of ponytailed rec level kids pooled their resources, hired a couple late model Buick Roadmasters and in true Bad News Bears fashion almost tilted the girls lax world on its M&D axis. Bruce Springsteen was already writing the lyrics to "Small Town Girls and Their Friends" and now we find out it was all just a ruse.

Those rascally Yellow Jackets!!! What was it that Forrest Gump said? The Yellow Jackets are like a box of chocolate...you never know what you're gonna get."

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.


The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.


Are a lot of the best players from the 2 towns Crossfire originates from? Yes
Do all but 2 players that travelled to MD play for them usually ? Yes
Did YJ's not have enough in the 2021 age group to form a team? Yes
Did a lot of girls get to play lax? Yes
Do you play with people other than your normal team when you sign up for any YJ fall tournament? Yes

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.


The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.


Are a lot of the best players from the 2 towns Crossfire originates from? Yes
Do all but 2 players that travelled to MD play for them usually ? Yes
Did YJ's not have enough in the 2021 age group to form a team? Yes
Did a lot of girls get to play lax? Yes
Do you play with people other than your normal team when you sign up for any YJ fall tournament? Yes


Do the girls who played up belong on blue? No

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.


The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.


Are a lot of the best players from the 2 towns Crossfire originates from? Yes
Do all but 2 players that travelled to MD play for them usually ? Yes
Did YJ's not have enough in the 2021 age group to form a team? Yes
Did a lot of girls get to play lax? Yes
Do you play with people other than your normal team when you sign up for any YJ fall tournament? Yes


Do the girls who played up belong on blue? No


Sad days 2021 parents. Friends and Family alive and well, Might be your kid left out next time. YJ had plenty of 2021 registered on the first and second set of rosters, they were dispersed to play with the 2020s who were helping the 2019s field a team. Apologies to the kids that were left out, sorry it went down that way, you deserve better.

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Lot's of M&D talk on here...and I know YJ top team at this age is very good. What are the other top teams at 2021?


M&D lost to MD United today at the fall uprising in maryland, so lets not call them the greatest team ever just yet

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Lot's of M&D talk on here...and I know YJ top team at this age is very good. What are the other top teams at 2021?


M&D lost to MD United today at the fall uprising in maryland, so lets not call them the greatest team ever just yet


There are several very good 2021 teams in Maryland.

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M&D 2021 parent here. Congrats to MD United East on a well deserved "Brave Heart" OT championship today!

I am sure our teams will play a number of games over the years and may they all be as hard fought as this one was.

Maryland is loaded with talent at this age level and this weekend's tournament proves that point.

Good luck to all in the coming weeks!

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Lot's of M&D talk on here...and I know YJ top team at this age is very good. What are the other top teams at 2021?


M&D lost to MD United today at the fall uprising in maryland, so lets not call them the greatest team ever just yet


M&D had this game in hand and let it slip away at end losing in a braveheart. Should have milked away the last few minutes instead of trying to add to lead. MD United played tough. Personally think bravehearts are a ridiculous way to decide a championship.

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You can twist it however you want. The reality is, it's not a YJ team, not a TG team. Not playing politics and sucking up to CR or SS. Going in under YJ was because a number of the kids had already registered as YJ. No big deception or political plot. Just some kids/parents that are good friends and like to play lacrosse together. It has nothing to do with showing off any one kids abilities. They're just out to have fun as the game was intended.


I am sure it was that innocent. However, who decided on which 2021 YJ got shipped to a 2020 team, CR, Coach M, did he have input? The end result were several current 2021 YJ Blue and Gold players feeling really left out in the 2020 world. Not a nice thing to do to your teammates.


The best played for crossfire. The rest played with 2020, that's it simple. End the conversation.


Are a lot of the best players from the 2 towns Crossfire originates from? Yes
Do all but 2 players that travelled to MD play for them usually ? Yes
Did YJ's not have enough in the 2021 age group to form a team? Yes
Did a lot of girls get to play lax? Yes
Do you play with people other than your normal team when you sign up for any YJ fall tournament? Yes


Do the girls who played up belong on blue? No


Sad days 2021 parents. Friends and Family alive and well, Might be your kid left out next time. YJ had plenty of 2021 registered on the first and second set of rosters, they were dispersed to play with the 2020s who were helping the 2019s field a team. Apologies to the kids that were left out, sorry it went down that way, you deserve better.


They were dispersed ? the coach didn't want them on the team. Look for them to move down.

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What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.

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What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.

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What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.

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What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ

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What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ


Well that's gonna make for a big roster

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[quote=Anonymous]What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ


Well that's gonna make for a big roster

Not likely. They'll just have to make more cuts.

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[quote=Anonymous]What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ


Well that's gonna make for a big roster

Not likely. They'll just have to make more cuts.


The blue roster will be 28. 25 from last year plus 3 new kids from TG.

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[quote=Anonymous]What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.


Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall Bally, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ


Well that's gonna make for a big roster

Not likely. They'll just have to make more cuts.


The blue roster will be 28. 25 from last year plus 3 new kids from TG.


ThAt roster and all rosters should be 24 with two goalies

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[quote=Anonymous]What I don't get is how does CR allow TG kids to take positions away from YJ kids and how does BS allow kids to play under YJ banner . CR is losing it when she allows these wanna be coaches actually take over thee teams , now at the 2020 and 2021 ages you have daddy coaches who have zero lacrosse experience or knowledge. Both having their only claims to fame is they have managed to alienate a lot if kids on their YJ teams and TG teams because they think their kids are better than their teamates.

They will move kids down, the 2nd team had some girls leave so there is room for 3-4 new girls.
Oh you are only scratching the surface my friend! It is going to get a lot worse.


Here's my guess. The crossefire team has absolutely nothing to do with YJ or TGs. All crybabies please stop. But CR could give a crap about bitching parents, saw an opportunity to enter a bunch of kids in a yj tournament under a yj team name and jumped all over it. Why? To [lacrosse] off SS and BS. Sure it worked perfectly. Now everyone stop bitching like little girls, if you wanna play fall ball, go start your own team.


Maybe the TG kids are going to stay on YJ


Well that's gonna make for a big roster

Not likely. They'll just have to make more cuts.


The blue roster will be 28. 25 from last year plus 3 new kids from TG.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.


No way there will be 28, people are posting that in desperation to keep players on the fence at other clubs.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.


There was no movement at tryouts. Only additions

No way there will be 28, people are posting that in desperation to keep players on the fence at other clubs.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.


There was no movement at tryouts. Only additions

No way there will be 28, people are posting that in desperation to keep players on the fence at other clubs.


Of course they don't move existing players down during tryouts. So here's the thing, if it looks like three girls are being added, they will move three down when they announce rosters. The top teams are more apparent as you see what is going on, the bigger guess work is on second and third teams. Say the second team had three new players with them at tryouts, add to that three moving down, now you have a potential of six kids (in this example) being moved off second to third team. It is the trickle down effect that happens in every club, every age group and every team, every year. Teams don't get better by turning away talent because you have enough players already. Honestly the kids and parents who get moved down a team should embrace it as an opportunity to become a impact player on a team more their speed rather than trying to compete over their heads, weather its to 1st, 2nd, 3rd.....team.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.


There was no movement at tryouts. Only additions

No way there will be 28, people are posting that in desperation to keep players on the fence at other clubs.


Of course they don't move existing players down during tryouts. So here's the thing, if it looks like three girls are being added, they will move three down when they announce rosters. The top teams are more apparent as you see what is going on, the bigger guess work is on second and third teams. Say the second team had three new players with them at tryouts, add to that three moving down, now you have a potential of six kids (in this example) being moved off second to third team. It is the trickle down effect that happens in every club, every age group and every team, every year. Teams don't get better by turning away talent because you have enough players already. Honestly the kids and parents who get moved down a team should embrace it as an opportunity to become a impact player on a team more their speed rather than trying to compete over their heads, weather its to 1st, 2nd, 3rd.....team.


They absolutely do move them during tryouts. I just think in this case many of the girls moving are FandF and are signed up fo all the fall tourns so they waited.

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Sorry but 28 on a roster is just nuts!


It is nuts. Do you think they will move anyone off?


28 could ruin a team I have seen it on a roster of 25. The top 5 players will start to resent the bottom ten as they sit out on a double rotation due to the roster size, or the bottom 4 will quickly realize they don't belong when they don't see the field in the second half of a close game. Either way it leads to a good portion of the team being miserable.


There was no movement at tryouts. Only additions

No way there will be 28, people are posting that in desperation to keep players on the fence at other clubs.


Of course they don't move existing players down during tryouts. So here's the thing, if it looks like three girls are being added, they will move three down when they announce rosters. The top teams are more apparent as you see what is going on, the bigger guess work is on second and third teams. Say the second team had three new players with them at tryouts, add to that three moving down, now you have a potential of six kids (in this example) being moved off second to third team. It is the trickle down effect that happens in every club, every age group and every team, every year. Teams don't get better by turning away talent because you have enough players already. Honestly the kids and parents who get moved down a team should embrace it as an opportunity to become a impact player on a team more their speed rather than trying to compete over their heads, weather its to 1st, 2nd, 3rd.....team.


When a kid gets moved down off blue 90% of the time the parents start to call other clubs to see if they have any open roster spots on the A teams in the other club. If they can get one of those spots they will leave rather than take the demotion .

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

When do things get started up in LI?

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

When do things get started up in LI?


It's called PAL

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

When do things get started up in LI?


From late March to early June, the girls play for their town teams (usually through 6th grade, some do 7/8th) and their schools (7th and up). Club teams start their tournaments in early to mid-June.

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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It's called PAL


SCGL

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Is there a reason there is no spring club league on LI? There is a division for 5th through 8th grade in NPYGLL. And there are a lot of 4th grade teams in the 5th grade division. Seems like a no brainer. Girls usually stop playing rec(town) after 5th grade for the most part. Some sooner. What kind of competition are the town leagues up there?

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Is there a reason there is no spring club league on LI? There is a division for 5th through 8th grade in NPYGLL. And there are a lot of 4th grade teams in the 5th grade division. Seems like a no brainer. Girls usually stop playing rec(town) after 5th grade for the most part. Some sooner. What kind of competition are the town leagues up there?


Rec goes through 6th grade on LI. Then the girls can play LISGYLL in 7th and 8th.

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Is there a reason there is no spring club league on LI? There is a division for 5th through 8th grade in NPYGLL. And there are a lot of 4th grade teams in the 5th grade division. Seems like a no brainer. Girls usually stop playing rec(town) after 5th grade for the most part. Some sooner. What kind of competition are the town leagues up there?


I'm sure it has to do with $$, the summer travel clubs dont do anything extra unless they get paid

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch

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Is there a reason there is no spring club league on LI? There is a division for 5th through 8th grade in NPYGLL. And there are a lot of 4th grade teams in the 5th grade division. Seems like a no brainer. Girls usually stop playing rec(town) after 5th grade for the most part. Some sooner. What kind of competition are the town leagues up there?


There is a wide range of talent both within and among the town teams. Makes for a lot of lopsided games, especially when the leagues and/or town directors and coaches don't care enough to try to match talent - or even worse, intentionally sandbag to win games. Nassau County is much better at setting up divisions with equal talent - keeps scores, standings, etc. year to year. Suffolk doesn't seem to care.

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When do things get started up in LI?


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SCGL


That's even worse

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.


That is occurring. There is also a group of girls going down in mid April to play some Md teams at Loyola.

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.


M&D is not in national draw so best 2021 team is not there.

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.


M&D is not in national draw so best 2021 team is not there.


I will agree, MD black is best in 2021. Why are they not going to Nat draw? All teams not going?

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

When d
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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.


That is occurring. There is also a group of girls going down in mid April to play some Md teams at Loyola.


A group of girls is called a team, what team are you talking about?

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NPYGLL Spring league started a couple weeks ago in MD. M&D dominating so far as usual but haven't played any of the other top teams yet.

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They really don't get started here for good competition. Think that's why I keep hearing some girls are going down to Maryland to play those girls in a week or two.


I know some LI girls are coming down to play against the Redshirts, but other than 2021 and younger, that club has fallen apart and won't provide any competition.

Check the scores on the NPYGLL website for 2019 and 2020. 2019 was so bad last year they dropped down to the B division and 2020 lost 11 girls to another club and has gotten killed so far this year. They haven't even played a good team. Play M&D 2020 next weekend and that should be a total mismatch


I think they meant LI girls going to spring championship tournament. YJ teams as well as MD black, Skywalker blue etc are all in the tournament. It looks like the top pool at national draw. Should be the best and most competitive tournament of the year.


M&D is not in national draw so best 2021 team is not there.


M&D is not going to National Draw at all. They decided to go to Lax for the Cure instead and they are playing in a different tournament the weekend of National Draw

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Who are the LI Lady Rebels that are coming down to MD next weekend?

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If any relation to the 2019/20 Lady Rebels, they are a group of YJ and TG parents/players who can not get enough from their club and/or town teams so they formed a splinter group to play in tourneys ... i had thought as part of the TG defection deal with YJ the Lady Rebels had to burn their jerseys... but maybe that only applied to the 19s and 20s. New, younger Rebel squad... it begs the question: are deals in the works for the '21s now?

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If any relation to the 2019/20 Lady Rebels, they are a group of YJ and TG parents/players who can not get enough from their club and/or town teams so they formed a splinter group to play in tourneys ... i had thought as part of the TG defection deal with YJ the Lady Rebels had to burn their jerseys... but maybe that only applied to the 19s and 20s. New, younger Rebel squad... it begs the question: are deals in the works for the '21s now?


The 2020 and 2021 team Lady Rebels are coming down the weekend of 4/11-4/12. Not playing in tournament, just scrimmages. M&D Parent and we were just emailed that we are playing them on 4/12

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If any relation to the 2019/20 Lady Rebels, they are a group of YJ and TG parents/players who can not get enough from their club and/or town teams so they formed a splinter group to play in tourneys ... i had thought as part of the TG defection deal with YJ the Lady Rebels had to burn their jerseys... but maybe that only applied to the 19s and 20s. New, younger Rebel squad... it begs the question: are deals in the works for the '21s now?


Why would girls leaving one club or another make them want to burn lady rebel jerseys? The only people who want to burn rebel jerseys would be the TG directors.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.

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What is this? Game of thrones sixth and seventh grade version?

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Not the lady rebels you are thinking of ,believe this is just a select TG group .The former Lady Rebels were really just a core group of TG and YJ that lived in the same area of LI that would supplement the team with different kids for different tournaments depending on who was available etc.Politics and egos being what they are that team is essentially gone.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Not the lady rebels you are thinking of ,believe this is just a select TG group .The former Lady Rebels were really just a core group of TG and YJ that lived in the same area of LI that would supplement the team with different kids for different tournaments depending on who was available etc.Politics and egos being what they are that team is essentially gone.

Yeah, they had a 2020 team down in MD for the Spring Club Championships last year. We thought they were the MD area Rebels club(who is not good). We were caught a bit off guard.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are



Not the lady rebels you are thinking of ,believe this is just a select TG group .The former Lady Rebels were really just a core group of TG and YJ that lived in the same area of LI that would supplement the team with different kids for different tournaments depending on who was available etc.Politics and egos being what they are that team is essentially gone.

Yeah, they had a 2020 team down in MD for the Spring Club Championships last year. We thought they were the MD area Rebels club(who is not good). We were caught a bit off guard.


Why aren't YJ 2021 invited. Best team in te age.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Should be Elevate - they were the 3rd best team in the age group last summer - had good games with YJ and beat TG

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are



Not the lady rebels you are thinking of ,believe this is just a select TG group .The former Lady Rebels were really just a core group of TG and YJ that lived in the same area of LI that would supplement the team with different kids for different tournaments depending on who was available etc.Politics and egos being what they are that team is essentially gone.

Yeah, they had a 2020 team down in MD for the Spring Club Championships last year. We thought they were the MD area Rebels club(who is not good). We were caught a bit off guard.


Why aren't YJ 2021 invited. Best team in te age.


It must be because you're too good and nobody wants to pl;ay with you

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Should be Elevate - they were the 3rd best team in the age group last summer - had good games with YJ and beat TG


And got run off the field by M&D so bad that the M&D goalie played the field in the second half.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Should be Elevate - they were the 3rd best team in the age group last summer - had good games with YJ and beat TG


And got run off the field by M&D so bad that the M&D goalie played the field in the second half.


Elevate is not as strong this year. They lost s bunch of starters and replaced with lesser talent.

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Answer to why burn the jersey: So they (Lady Rebels) won't beat the YJs anymore thus eliminating YJ competition. And in the process of the "deal" weakened the competition by taking players from the TG Black team. Masterful and effective business move by the YJ.


Wondering why a rebel discussion is even on a 2021 heading? Rebels have been around for several years and was never a 2021 deal. Are they becoming a club of their own and expanding into more age groups? Is the 2021 team all TG players?


Because there is a 2021 LI Lady Rebels team coming down to Baltimore next weekend to play M&D and at least one other team that I know of. Just wondering who they are


Should be Elevate - they were the 3rd best team in the age group last summer - had good games with YJ and beat TG


And got run off the field by M&D so bad that the M&D goalie played the field in the second half.


Elevate is not as strong this year. They lost s bunch of starters and replaced with lesser talent.


Have you seen this new team play? If you say yes - you are not being honest because my friends daughter is on the team and was on the team last year and said that they have some new girls that are very good - but they haven't played together enough to even know if they are better than last year. She said they may be slightly better but not enough to beat YJ who they had good games with last year. So unless you have watched them - which is highly unlikely - you don't know all the new girls that replaced the old ones. If you know one that might not be as good - that wouldn't be a good assumption for the entire new group.

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Looks like Yj is the LI team to beat this year in this age. The Top Guns 2021 has all tiny girls, the physically can't hang with the larger and more athletic YJ team. TG Black will be lucky if they can beat the 2nd Yj team in this age division this year. But that is what happens when you choose teams based on politics. Right RD? You got "BS in your pocket" as you say.

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Best team on LI? How about best team period.

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Looks like Yj is the LI team to beat this year in this age. The Top Guns 2021 has all tiny girls, the physically can't hang with the larger and more athletic YJ team. TG Black will be lucky if they can beat the 2nd Yj team in this age division this year. But that is what happens when you choose teams based on politics. Right RD? You got "BS in your pocket" as you say.


YJ added some new very talented girls this year. Lets see how it goes.

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NY team losing badly to TLC.

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NY team losing badly to TLC.


What are you talking about?

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Best team on LI? How about best team period.

You gained one real quality girl, but you also got one that belongs on the third team. When you beat some of the quality MAryland teams then you can make that statement, but until then let's see if your deadwood drags you down.

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What are you talking about?


must be that loyala thing they were talking about. What team exactly are we talking about?

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must be that loyala thing they were talking about. What team exactly are we talking about?


It was LI Lady Rebels. M&D beat them 22-3. Not sure how bad TLC or Redshirts beat them

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Looks like Yj is the LI team to beat this year in this age. The Top Guns 2021 has all tiny girls, the physically can't hang with the larger and more athletic YJ team. TG Black will be lucky if they can beat the 2nd Yj team in this age division this year. But that is what happens when you choose teams based on politics. Right RD? You got "BS in your pocket" as you say.


I assume you mean team to beat on LI? M&D is far and away best team in 2021

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Were the 2020 Lady Rebels/ YJ/ TG at Loyola as well ? If so, does anyone know how they made out?

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Looks like Yj is the LI team to beat this year in this age. The Top Guns 2021 has all tiny girls, the physically can't hang with the larger and more athletic YJ team. TG Black will be lucky if they can beat the 2nd Yj team in this age division this year. But that is what happens when you choose teams based on politics. Right RD? You got "BS in your pocket" as you say.


I assume you mean team to beat on LI? M&D is far and away best team in 2021


Certainly the current #1 based on last year, no doubt. Mid-Atlantic in May starts the 2015 campaign, YJ will be there, good luck to all!!!

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Were the 2020 Lady Rebels/ YJ/ TG at Loyola as well ? If so, does anyone know how they made out?


M&D 2020 beat 2020 lady rebels by 3 or 4

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M&D 2020 beat 2020 lady rebels by 3 or 4


Go M&D!!!

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So much Speculation about Crossfire, Here's the real story and you can take it or leave it, I do not care.
Crossfire Is made up of mostly BBP and ESM, there are some Top Gun girls and some Yellow Jacket girls ALSO some girls from both who do NOT play any type of travel lacrosse, We have a few other girls as well from one or two other towns who are good friends of some of the girls and do NOT play travel lacrosse at all. The ONLY reason we went to Maryland under "Yellow jackets" was because to register for the tournament each girl had to have a US Lacrosse number, since the Yellow Jacket girls have one already, we couldn't register them under a different club name. We couldn't figure out how to change that without screwing up the girls with US Lacrosse numbers, so Mark asked Carol Rose if we could use the YJ name to make it easier to register and she said yes. So saying girls were moved around or dispersed around to make room or stick it to anybody is COMPLETELY false. We all paid our own way, rented our own rooms, purchased our own uniforms. We play together when the girls are free from their respective club teams and when the non club players are free from dance and any other activities they are involved in. We do not go get anyone else when some girls are not available, we simply do not go. we Play two maybe Three tournaments a year, Mostly in fall and we did the Shamrock Shootout this year. We were asked to play against a Maryland Red shirt team coming up soon, the Maryland Red Shirt team is up to watch an NCAA game at Hofstra I think. We are trying to get it together. SO that's it, That is the Story of Crossfire. Spin it anyway you want to, create any drama you want to, Go ahead, But reading all the posts speculating every possible scenario was quite amusing though.

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Need some advice for my 2021 daughter on the North Shore of Central Suffolk. She is not really happy with her playing time on the B team Yellow Jackets, and is not able to get the ball from her "clicky" and far less talented PAL teammates. Is there some kind of middle ground team/ league where she can just play competitive games this summer, get in the game, get the ball, get better,and have FUN?? Thank you!!!

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Crossfire Is made up of mostly BBP and ESM, there are some Top Gun girls and some Yellow Jacket girls ALSO some girls from both who do NOT play any type of travel lacrosse, We have a few other girls as well from one or two other towns who are good friends of some of the girls and do NOT play travel lacrosse at all. The ONLY reason we went to Maryland under "Yellow jackets" was because to register for the tournament each girl had to have a US Lacrosse number, since the Yellow Jacket girls have one already, we couldn't register them under a different club name. We couldn't figure out how to change that without screwing up the girls with US Lacrosse numbers, so Mark asked Carol Rose if we could use the YJ name to make it easier to register and she said yes. So saying girls were moved around or dispersed around to make room or stick it to anybody is COMPLETELY false. We all paid our own way, rented our own rooms, purchased our own uniforms. We play together when the girls are free from their respective club teams and when the non club players are free from dance and any other activities they are involved in. We do not go get anyone else when some girls are not available, we simply do not go. we Play two maybe Three tournaments a year, Mostly in fall and we did the Shamrock Shootout this year. We were asked to play against a Maryland Red shirt team coming up soon, the Maryland Red Shirt team is up to watch an NCAA game at Hofstra I think. We are trying to get it together. SO that's it, That is the Story of Crossfire. Spin it anyway you want to, create any drama you want to, Go ahead, But reading all the posts speculating every possible scenario was quite amusing though.


I don't know what you call it, but it was a total waste of everyone's time on Sunday. If you are going to bring a team of girls down here to play M&D, TLC and Redshirts, they should be able to play. M&D beat them 22-3 and Redshirts beat them 12-0. I know TLC beat them handily, but don't know the score. All three teams had league games early that morning and stuck around up to 4 hours to play in this game against what was promised to be a very skilled team. What a waste of a beautiful Sunday. I know there are quality players on LI, just a shame we didn't get to see them.

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Need some advice for my 2021 daughter on the North Shore of Central Suffolk. She is not really happy with her playing time on the B team Yellow Jackets, and is not able to get the ball from her "clicky" and far less talented PAL teammates. Is there some kind of middle ground team/ league where she can just play competitive games this summer, get in the game, get the ball, get better,and have FUN?? Thank you!!!


Cue the YJ parents saying that any B YJ player could start for any other team in the country.

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So much Speculation about Crossfire, Here's the real story and you can take it or leave it, I do not care.
Crossfire Is made up of mostly BBP and ESM, there are some Top Gun girls and some Yellow Jacket girls ALSO some girls from both who do NOT play any type of travel lacrosse, We have a few other girls as well from one or two other towns who are good friends of some of the girls and do NOT play travel lacrosse at all. The ONLY reason we went to Maryland under "Yellow jackets" was because to register for the tournament each girl had to have a US Lacrosse number, since the Yellow Jacket girls have one already, we couldn't register them under a different club name. We couldn't figure out how to change that without screwing up the girls with US Lacrosse numbers, so Mark asked Carol Rose if we could use the YJ name to make it easier to register and she said yes. So saying girls were moved around or dispersed around to make room or stick it to anybody is COMPLETELY false. We all paid our own way, rented our own rooms, purchased our own uniforms. We play together when the girls are free from their respective club teams and when the non club players are free from dance and any other activities they are involved in. We do not go get anyone else when some girls are not available, we simply do not go. we Play two maybe Three tournaments a year, Mostly in fall and we did the Shamrock Shootout this year. We were asked to play against a Maryland Red shirt team coming up soon, the Maryland Red Shirt team is up to watch an NCAA game at Hofstra I think. We are trying to get it together. SO that's it, That is the Story of Crossfire. Spin it anyway you want to, create any drama you want to, Go ahead, But reading all the posts speculating every possible scenario was quite amusing though.


I don't know what you call it, but it was a total waste of everyone's time on Sunday. If you are going to bring a team of girls down here to play M&D, TLC and Redshirts, they should be able to play. M&D beat them 22-3 and Redshirts beat them 12-0. I know TLC beat them handily, but don't know the score. All three teams had league games early that morning and stuck around up to 4 hours to play in this game against what was promised to be a very skilled team. What a waste of a beautiful Sunday. I know there are quality players on LI, just a shame we didn't get to see them.


The 2020 lady rebel played in mid atlantic championship last year and beat the field, including redshirts, had a great game in the finals with MD black, and lost on a free position shot with about 2 seconds left. Sounds like this 2021 version should stay home.

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Let's just clarify that lady rebels is a continually shifting group of participants. The original group of girls that began as lady rebels play together on occasion but less often than not because of other commitments. Those originals were the ones that headed down to the mid Atlantic last year and had a great experience competing with the other Maryland teams.
Saying Lady Rebels does not mean much more than just the pinnie they are wearing so expecting it to be a certain caliber, or not, is misguided.

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Need some advice for my 2021 daughter on the North Shore of Central Suffolk. She is not really happy with her playing time on the B team Yellow Jackets, and is not able to get the ball from her "clicky" and far less talented PAL teammates. Is there some kind of middle ground team/ league where she can just play competitive games this summer, get in the game, get the ball, get better,and have FUN?? Thank you!!!


Have you looked at other travel clubs - TG or Elevate.

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Was kind of thinking for something less competitive than TG or Elevate. Just a fun league with no trips but with girls who know how to play. But yes, we may jump the YJ ship at some point.

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So much Speculation about Crossfire, Here's the real story and you can take it or leave it, I do not care.
Crossfire Is made up of mostly BBP and ESM, there are some Top Gun girls and some Yellow Jacket girls ALSO some girls from both who do NOT play any type of travel lacrosse, We have a few other girls as well from one or two other towns who are good friends of some of the girls and do NOT play travel lacrosse at all. The ONLY reason we went to Maryland under "Yellow jackets" was because to register for the tournament each girl had to have a US Lacrosse number, since the Yellow Jacket girls have one already, we couldn't register them under a different club name. We couldn't figure out how to change that without screwing up the girls with US Lacrosse numbers, so Mark asked Carol Rose if we could use the YJ name to make it easier to register and she said yes. So saying girls were moved around or dispersed around to make room or stick it to anybody is COMPLETELY false. We all paid our own way, rented our own rooms, purchased our own uniforms. We play together when the girls are free from their respective club teams and when the non club players are free from dance and any other activities they are involved in. We do not go get anyone else when some girls are not available, we simply do not go. we Play two maybe Three tournaments a year, Mostly in fall and we did the Shamrock Shootout this year. We were asked to play against a Maryland Red shirt team coming up soon, the Maryland Red Shirt team is up to watch an NCAA game at Hofstra I think. We are trying to get it together. SO that's it, That is the Story of Crossfire. Spin it anyway you want to, create any drama you want to, Go ahead, But reading all the posts speculating every possible scenario was quite amusing though.


I don't know what you call it, but it was a total waste of everyone's time on Sunday. If you are going to bring a team of girls down here to play M&D, TLC and Redshirts, they should be able to play. M&D beat them 22-3 and Redshirts beat them 12-0. I know TLC beat them handily, but don't know the score. All three teams had league games early that morning and stuck around up to 4 hours to play in this game against what was promised to be a very skilled team. What a waste of a beautiful Sunday. I know there are quality players on LI, just a shame we didn't get to see them.


Need to clarify one thing, whatever team went down to MD this past weekend was not Crossfire. 95% of the girls were playing town ball Sunday. I think the original poster is mixing up this past weekends event with a fall 2014 tournament that Crossfire did attended.
When the MD team comes to LI they will see Crossfire. It should be a good game.

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Was kind of thinking for something less competitive than TG or Elevate. Just a fun league with no trips but with girls who know how to play. But yes, we may jump the YJ ship at some point.


Look at the travel team websites and find one that stays on LI for 2021 - less competitive. Maybe 91 or the Wave?

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So much Speculation about Crossfire, Here's the real story and you can take it or leave it, I do not care.
Crossfire Is made up of mostly BBP and ESM, there are some Top Gun girls and some Yellow Jacket girls ALSO some girls from both who do NOT play any type of travel lacrosse, We have a few other girls as well from one or two other towns who are good friends of some of the girls and do NOT play travel lacrosse at all. The ONLY reason we went to Maryland under "Yellow jackets" was because to register for the tournament each girl had to have a US Lacrosse number, since the Yellow Jacket girls have one already, we couldn't register them under a different club name. We couldn't figure out how to change that without screwing up the girls with US Lacrosse numbers, so Mark asked Carol Rose if we could use the YJ name to make it easier to register and she said yes. So saying girls were moved around or dispersed around to make room or stick it to anybody is COMPLETELY false. We all paid our own way, rented our own rooms, purchased our own uniforms. We play together when the girls are free from their respective club teams and when the non club players are free from dance and any other activities they are involved in. We do not go get anyone else when some girls are not available, we simply do not go. we Play two maybe Three tournaments a year, Mostly in fall and we did the Shamrock Shootout this year. We were asked to play against a Maryland Red shirt team coming up soon, the Maryland Red Shirt team is up to watch an NCAA game at Hofstra I think. We are trying to get it together. SO that's it, That is the Story of Crossfire. Spin it anyway you want to, create any drama you want to, Go ahead, But reading all the posts speculating every possible scenario was quite amusing though.

My daughter was mived from one roster to another because the crossfire team took some of the girls originally rostered so this is not true.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

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Need some advice for my 2021 daughter on the North Shore of Central Suffolk. She is not really happy with her playing time on the B team Yellow Jackets, and is not able to get the ball from her "clicky" and far less talented PAL teammates. Is there some kind of middle ground team/ league where she can just play competitive games this summer, get in the game, get the ball, get better,and have FUN?? Thank you!!!

Good luck with all the nut jobs on that team. No one passed to my daughter the entire year on that team, but she had the last laugh because all those ball hogs stayed down or went to third team.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

They were b team players anyway. So what if they got moved.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

They were b team players anyway. So what if they got moved.


That is just nasty and obnoxious. And yes some of the "Crossfire/YJ" girls were originally rostered to play with a YJ only team and then moved to Crossfire...and to say a child is "only B" is just one reason Blue has such a bad rep.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

They were b team players anyway. So what if they got moved.


That is just nasty and obnoxious. And yes some of the "Crossfire/YJ" girls were originally rostered to play with a YJ only team and then moved to Crossfire...and to say a child is "only B" is just one reason Blue has such a bad rep.


You gotta learn not to bite. There is obviously some pot stirring going on. No one from crossfire has that lesser team attitude, in fact most of the girls are from 2nd and 3rd teams and/or no team or club affiliation. And to anyone who feels left out, here is some advice, find a tournament, invite some girls, pick a team name, go play and have fun. Just don't use the name cross fire, that's been done.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

They were b team players anyway. So what if they got moved.


That is just nasty and obnoxious. And yes some of the "Crossfire/YJ" girls were originally rostered to play with a YJ only team and then moved to Crossfire...and to say a child is "only B" is just one reason Blue has such a bad rep.


You gotta learn not to bite. There is obviously some pot stirring going on. No one from crossfire has that lesser team attitude, in fact most of the girls are from 2nd and 3rd teams and/or no team or club affiliation. And to anyone who feels left out, here is some advice, find a tournament, invite some girls, pick a team name, go play and have fun. Just don't use the name cross fire, that's been done.
Some girls might have been moved to a 2020 team but that had nothing to do with the crossfire team at all! Every girl on crossfire that are YJ girls were signed up for that tournament way before it was offered to the YJ program. It was only listed on YJ site because of the registering issue with USA lacrosse numbers. So any girls being moved to 2020 was going to happen anyway as the YJ girls never intended to play with YJ in that particular event. Whomever wrote that those girls were B players was not me and trying to stir up crap! I was original poster about Crossfire and any subsequent posts will not be from me! TN

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.

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Whomever you are, Your daughter was NOT moved to any roster because of crossfire!!!! The YJ girls who play for crossfire have been playing for crossfire for 2 years and NOBODY was added or removed from any team!!! So take your BS elsewhere!!


Not trying to offend you, but the first roster for that weekend posted on the website was subsequently changed and a small number of players were put with 2020's for that weekend.

They were b team players anyway. So what if they got moved.


That is just nasty and obnoxious. And yes some of the "Crossfire/YJ" girls were originally rostered to play with a YJ only team and then moved to Crossfire...and to say a child is "only B" is just one reason Blue has such a bad rep.


You gotta learn not to bite. There is obviously some pot stirring going on. No one from crossfire has that lesser team attitude, in fact most of the girls are from 2nd and 3rd teams and/or no team or club affiliation. And to anyone who feels left out, here is some advice, find a tournament, invite some girls, pick a team name, go play and have fun. Just don't use the name cross fire, that's been done.
Some girls might have been moved to a 2020 team but that had nothing to do with the crossfire team at all! Every girl on crossfire that are YJ girls were signed up for that tournament way before it was offered to the YJ program. It was only listed on YJ site because of the registering issue with USA lacrosse numbers. So any girls being moved to 2020 was going to happen anyway as the YJ girls never intended to play with YJ in that particular event. Whomever wrote that those girls were B players was not me and trying to stir up crap! I was original poster about Crossfire and any subsequent posts will not be from me! TN


What was the US lacrosse# issue you keep writing about? When you register a team you either input all the numbers or parents do it for the kids. Why would you need YJ to roster the team? Does not make sense. Why would CR jeopardize herself and potential lawsuit if one of those "non YJ" kids got hurt? Sounds fishy.

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).



On that note, we should consider re-naming the team to Cross-Eyed or Friendly Fire... Sorry, could not resist and just trying to lighten the mode. I suggest we move on and get YJ Blue focused on a last weekend in May trip to Maryland!!!

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).


You just lost any sense of credibility with your " probably better " comment stick to beating up on town teams. It also would be more accurate to say " all of their talent is from YJ blue". If you didn't have those kids you would be just like the rest of the teams.

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).


This is too funny !

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).



On that note, we should consider re-naming the team to Cross-Eyed or Friendly Fire... Sorry, could not resist and just trying to lighten the mode. I suggest we move on and get YJ Blue focused on a last weekend in May trip to Maryland!!!


Great Idea !

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).


This is too funny !


As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team.

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Who cares? I mean it's not like any of the crossfire teams can win anything anyway.


You're obviously stirring the pot or have no clue. There is only one Crossfire team and they've played very well over the past two year.


Ok, I'll bite. Who has Crossfire beaten in the last 2 years?

They are a good team, anchored by several YJ blue and a few TG Black (one of which joined YJ this year). Very good team, I think someone posted that some of the players were rec players, if they have any rec players who don't play travel I would be shocked. Some girls are from the YJ 2nd team as well. Very good collection of talent, who is probably better than YJ Blue (though there is no way of telling as some of their best talent is from Yj blue).


This is too funny !


As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team.


Don't kid yourself,after the top 6 or 7 players the Blue team is just like the rest of our teams.

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I will give you that 5-6 top players from the team below could replace the bottom 5-6 from the team above. It would merely be an exchange not really affecting strength of team. This is true if all teams, age groups, clubs and sports. Your numbers are wishfull thinking, but that's a small percent of people who would believe that, most people have a realistic grasp.

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As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team. [/quote]

Don't kid yourself,after the top 6 or 7 players the Blue team is just like the rest of our teams.[/quote]

It's odd that there really does seem to be a lack of talent at the 2021 age. M&D 2021 has run roughshod over every team at this age in MD, and really did not find much competition over the summer/fall tournament season from teams outside of MD. Maybe there are just so many teams now that the talent is spread out. As the years go on I would assume they will migrate to the typical powers. For instance, Skywalkers 2021 is one of the worst teams I have seen at this age. I assume this will change. I know in MD there are good players at TLC, Hero's, Redshirts, MD United, Integrity, etc. There just aren't enough of them on one of those teams at this point to compete regularly with M&D.

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As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team.


Don't kid yourself,after the top 6 or 7 players the Blue team is just like the rest of our teams.[/quote]

It's odd that there really does seem to be a lack of talent at the 2021 age. M&D 2021 has run roughshod over every team at this age in MD, and really did not find much competition over the summer/fall tournament season from teams outside of MD. Maybe there are just so many teams now that the talent is spread out. As the years go on I would assume they will migrate to the typical powers. For instance, Skywalkers 2021 is one of the worst teams I have seen at this age. I assume this will change. I know in MD there are good players at TLC, Hero's, Redshirts, MD United, Integrity, etc. There just aren't enough of them on one of those teams at this point to compete regularly with M&D. [/quote]

MD beat YJ 5-3 last summer. It was the only loss in age group for YJ. Hardly a blowout and a game just as easy going the other way. Agree about skywalkers, stunned how team was, but this year is new, they could be the strongest team this summer for all we know.

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As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team.


Don't kid yourself,after the top 6 or 7 players the Blue team is just like the rest of our teams.


It's odd that there really does seem to be a lack of talent at the 2021 age. M&D 2021 has run roughshod over every team at this age in MD, and really did not find much competition over the summer/fall tournament season from teams outside of MD. Maybe there are just so many teams now that the talent is spread out. As the years go on I would assume they will migrate to the typical powers. For instance, Skywalkers 2021 is one of the worst teams I have seen at this age. I assume this will change. I know in MD there are good players at TLC, Hero's, Redshirts, MD United, Integrity, etc. There just aren't enough of them on one of those teams at this point to compete regularly with M&D. [/quote]

MD beat YJ 5-3 last summer. It was the only loss in age group for YJ. Hardly a blowout and a game just as easy going the other way. Agree about skywalkers, stunned how team was, but this year is new, they could be the strongest team this summer for all we know. [/quote]

YJ scored on 3 free positions. M&D controlled the game.
Skywalkers 2021 is worst team in MD spring league. 0-4 and hasn't been within 10 goals in any game.

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As bad as the 2021 TG team was last year, I doubt they had a lot to offer. I find it hard to believe that a team made of some YJ Blue and YJ second team and some other TG, Elevate or any of the other horrible 2021 teams could be close to the YJ Blue team.


Don't kid yourself,after the top 6 or 7 players the Blue team is just like the rest of our teams.


It's odd that there really does seem to be a lack of talent at the 2021 age. M&D 2021 has run roughshod over every team at this age in MD, and really did not find much competition over the summer/fall tournament season from teams outside of MD. Maybe there are just so many teams now that the talent is spread out. As the years go on I would assume they will migrate to the typical powers. For instance, Skywalkers 2021 is one of the worst teams I have seen at this age. I assume this will change. I know in MD there are good players at TLC, Hero's, Redshirts, MD United, Integrity, etc. There just aren't enough of them on one of those teams at this point to compete regularly with M&D.


MD beat YJ 5-3 last summer. It was the only loss in age group for YJ. Hardly a blowout and a game just as easy going the other way. Agree about skywalkers, stunned how team was, but this year is new, they could be the strongest team this summer for all we know. [/quote]

YJ scored on 3 free positions. M&D controlled the game.
Skywalkers 2021 is worst team in MD spring league. 0-4 and hasn't been within 10 goals in any game. [/quote]

M+D chest beater, these girls are 10, 11 and 12. It is way too early to crown yourselves queen in Maryland, let alone on the east coast. Keep bragging. It is good for these girls to have a rabbit to chase.

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Just trying to put my finger on this, the 2021 LI lady rebels is basically the TG 2021 black team, correct?

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Put the W in the book

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Put the W in the book


What W would that be?

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I'm sure it's the YJ 2021 blue team win over the Redshirts today 15-5
Crossfire tied them 9-9 yesterday. But found out today the Redshirts used the 3 best players from their 2020 team against Crossfire, with one of those 3 scoring 6 times, so not bad for a thrown together team.

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That Redshirts team is a mess. Don't get too excited about a win over a middle of the road MD team. Redshirts has one girl that you have to defend. The 2020 team is 0-6 this spring so not sure how much help those girls were.

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There were some good games played this weekend. Thanks to the red shirt club for coming up to LI to get some good and competitive lax games in. The spring Suffolk league is getting hard to stomach, this was a much needed shot in the arm.

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That Redshirts team is a mess. Don't get too excited about a win over a middle of the road MD team. Redshirts has one girl that you have to defend. The 2020 team is 0-6 this spring so not sure how much help those girls were.


So long as MD black doesn't get too excited squeaking past 2021 redshirts 12-8 two weeks ago. The red shirt team is right there with every other top Maryland club.

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That Redshirts team is a mess. Don't get too excited about a win over a middle of the road MD team. Redshirts has one girl that you have to defend. The 2020 team is 0-6 this spring so not sure how much help those girls were.


So long as MD black doesn't get too excited squeaking past 2021 redshirts 12-8 two weeks ago. The red shirt team is right there with every other top Maryland club.


Score was not indicative of how the game went. That same redshirts team lost 13-4 to TLC who M&D just beat 15-9.

Last I checked, 12-8 isn't exactly squeaking by any way.

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I'm sure it's the YJ 2021 blue team win over the Redshirts today 15-5
Crossfire tied them 9-9 yesterday. But found out today the Redshirts used the 3 best players from their 2020 team against Crossfire, with one of those 3 scoring 6 times, so not bad for a thrown together team.


I knew there had to be a reason that Crossfire didn't dominate. Now it all makes sense. Thanks !

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That Redshirts team is a mess. Don't get too excited about a win over a middle of the road MD team. Redshirts has one girl that you have to defend. The 2020 team is 0-6 this spring so not sure how much help those girls were.


So long as MD black doesn't get too excited squeaking past 2021 redshirts 12-8 two weeks ago. The red shirt team is right there with every other top Maryland club.


There is no way the 2021 Redshirt team is right there with any of the top clubs in MD.

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I'm sure it's the YJ 2021 blue team win over the Redshirts today 15-5
Crossfire tied them 9-9 yesterday. But found out today the Redshirts used the 3 best players from their 2020 team against Crossfire, with one of those 3 scoring 6 times, so not bad for a thrown together team.


For a fake travel team you guys sure seem to get involved in a lot of controversy. Maybe they had some 2020 kids maybe they didn't , it was a scrimmage who cares enough about it to accuse a team of cheating.

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Don't be jealous that your daughter was asked to play for Cross Fire.

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Don't be jealous that your daughter was asked to play for Cross Fire.

Why would they be jealous that their kid was asked to play for crossfire? Doesn't make sense.

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I'm sure it's the YJ 2021 blue team win over the Redshirts today 15-5
Crossfire tied them 9-9 yesterday. But found out today the Redshirts used the 3 best players from their 2020 team against Crossfire, with one of those 3 scoring 6 times, so not bad for a thrown together team.


For a fake travel team you guys sure seem to get involved in a lot of controversy. Maybe they had some 2020 kids maybe they didn't , it was a scrimmage who cares enough about it to accuse a team of cheating.
Nobody said they were cheating!! They definitely did have 2020 girls playing on the 2021 team because the coach told us he did and we were ok with it! just pointing out that we competed against a true travel team with a throw together team. You must be a pleasure to live with! Get your own daughter up to speed and maybe she to can play for a real team one day, Loser!!!

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If you're being honest about the crossfire game you should also mention that the red extended the game long enough for crossfire to tie it. I believe they played an extra 5 minutes or so. Redshirts were up by 3 or 4 at the actual end of the game. Funny how that got left out of the recap.

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It's funny how every year all of the 5th & 6th grade parents come on here pounding their chest about meaningless games. In a couple of years you all will see that your teams win loss record means nothing to college coaches. If your program is strong and has a history of putting quality teams on the field coaches will come. I know of many "B" team players that are D1 committed. Relax and let your daughters enjoy their time playing this game. Too many parents take it too seriously. If your daughter is a player she will stand out.

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The games aren't meaningless to the girls. There is quite a rivalry in MD even at the 6th grade level. Everyone is determined to beat M&D and work on things specifically to try to do so. I know that the M&D girls were quite upset about the one game they've lost. They played the team that beat them and probably played their best defensive game and held MD United to 3 goals.

While I agree that parents shouldn't be on here beating their chests, don't say the games are meaningless. As you said, these girls are in 6th grade. They aren't thinking about and don't care about college coaches. So I disagree. Maybe come 8th grade and up, the games may be meaningless, but right now, the girls all want to win. They talk trash to their friends in school. My daughters friends from other clubs constantly tell her they are going to beat her this year, etc. it's good for them. After all, the game is supposed to be a competition, not a showcase for who can get a 3k scholarship.

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If you're being honest about the crossfire game you should also mention that the red extended the game long enough for crossfire to tie it. I believe they played an extra 5 minutes or so. Redshirts were up by 3 or 4 at the actual end of the game. Funny how that got left out of the recap.


Misinformed, time was being kept on the sideline and both teams coaches were aware of it.

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