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BOTC is opening our Fall 2013 through Summer 2014 thread covering the Girls 2016 (10th Grade) age group.
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My daughter received an invite to 2014 GIRL's Maverick Showtime event. I realize that this will only be their second year, the boys event seems to be successful. Any thoughts on the girl's event? It's not cheap and I'm curious about the return on investment..
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My daughter received an invite to 2014 GIRL's Maverick Showtime event. I realize that this will only be their second year, the boys event seems to be successful. Any thoughts on the girl's event? It's not cheap and I'm curious about the return on investment.. Awful event last year. However, now they have brought in one of the YJ directors to help run it. I'm sure YJ will now be pushing it.
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have any invites been received for the super sophs showcase?
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Refreshing our Girls 2016 discussion thread.
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I know some Long Island girls this age have committed already any lists yet.
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Congratulations to the following Class of 2016 girls from the Yellow Jackets organization that have verbally committed to the following institutions.
Charlotte Campbell (St Anthony's) UVA Sam DeBellis (Cold Spring Harbor) Duke Katie Hoeg (Mattituck) UNC Kaelie Huff (ESM) USC Kerrigan Miller (Bayport) USC
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I know all these girls. They are not playin regularly until they are juniors. They great players but that the way it is at these schools. That is big adjustment. These girls never sat before. Good luck. Go yj.
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I know all these girls. They are not playin regularly until they are juniors. They great players but that the way it is at these schools. That is big adjustment. These girls never sat before. Good luck. Go yj. Seriously , if you know all these girls you should go up to their parents and express your concern.
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I know all these girls. They are not playin regularly until they are juniors. They great players but that the way it is at these schools. That is big adjustment. These girls never sat before. Good luck. Go yj. I know why would they all pick to go to top 30 ranked schools that all happen to have beautiful schools in great areas of the country. You sir are a [lacrosse] , just wish them well and give congrats.
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I know all these girls. They are not playin regularly until they are juniors. They great players but that the way it is at these schools. That is big adjustment. These girls never sat before. Good luck. Go yj. I know all these girls too, I've watched my Top Gun daughters team play against them. They are great players. there is nothing else to add to the above post other congratulations and good luck at the next level.Well Done Girls
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Cage any way to get a list of colleges that were in attendance last year at Maverick Showtime? Or even better a list of who will be there this year?
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Cage any way to get a list of colleges that were in attendance last year at Maverick Showtime? Or even better a list of who will be there this year? This was not an event on the BOTC calendar last year. You will need to contact the showcase directors directly.
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I know all these girls. They are not playin regularly until they are juniors. They great players but that the way it is at these schools. That is big adjustment. These girls never sat before. Good luck. Go yj. Does your crystal ball have a way of predicting injuries? There is no way to tell how well a freshman will perform in the college game.Some will do better than expected and some will experience trouble adjusting to the size and speed of the college game.This all takes place without taking into consideration the unfortunate injuries that each team will have to deal with. Congratulations on your commitment I know you all worked very hard to be in this position.
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Mount Sinai High School sophomore attack-midfield Caroline Hoeg has made a commitment to play at Johns Hopkins University. High School: Mount Sinai High School Graduation Year: 2016 College Choice: Johns Hopkins University Club Affiliation: Yellow Jackets 2016 Blue
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Cage any way to get a list of colleges that were in attendance last year at Maverick Showtime? Or even better a list of who will be there this year? Expect to see the top rising sophmores (2017) based on the Long Island chatter. If you were lucky enough to receive an invitation, jump on it. Remember, there are some events that Are in fact Invitation Only and have a cap on those lucky enough to get the nod. My son to this day says it was the best showcase he attended and with the people running the girls side this year there will no doubt be hundreds of recruiters. It is pricy, but then again if your daughter has an idea of where she wants to go, chances are the coach will be attending this showcase. If not she can let the coach know she will be attending. I am on my brothers ipad and cant get to my email but I think this is at the end of June. Heard it was an amazing experience last year from girls who have given verbals over the past few months.
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Cage any way to get a list of colleges that were in attendance last year at Maverick Showtime? Or even better a list of who will be there this year? Expect to see the top rising sophmores (2017) based on the Long Island chatter. If you were lucky enough to receive an invitation, jump on it. Remember, there are some events that Are in fact Invitation Only and have a cap on those lucky enough to get the nod. My son to this day says it was the best showcase he attended and with the people running the girls side this year there will no doubt be hundreds of recruiters. It is pricy, but then again if your daughter has an idea of where she wants to go, chances are the coach will be attending this showcase. If not she can let the coach know she will be attending. I am on my brothers ipad and cant get to my email but I think this is at the end of June. Heard it was an amazing experience last year from girls who have given verbals over the past few months. You guys are talking about the Showtime event at Western Connecticut right? My daughter's going for the first time, and I saw someone earlier in the thread said it was awful last year. Wondering if anyone else has any input, or if that poster can provide details...
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My daughter attended last year and had a fun time...that was it, very few college coaches were there, mostly from Connecticut. Very little instruction, coached by low rate college players, mostly games. You can imagine the little passing and a lot of 1v1. According to the invite she received this year there are some big LI girls lax names involved and that may boost it up. The boys side is amazing, my son attended a few years back, but according to last year the girls side doesn't compare. Not worth the money, in my humble opinion. Hope this helps.
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Team Elevate 2016 Emma DeGennaro Huntington High School Midfielder/Attack Brown University
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BOTC congratulates the following three Long Island Yellow Jackets commitments from the Class of 2016.
Taryn Ohlmiller High School: Islip High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Attack College Choice: Towson University Club Affiliation: Long Island Yellow Jackets Major lacrosse honors: 3x All-Division(Suffolk County), 3x Offensive Player of the Year(Islip), National Tournament Team 2(LI Metro), 2x All-Tournament U-15 Nationals, National Draw, Lax for the Cure, Mid-Atlantic, Northern Rise, and Syracuse Team Camp Champs
Ally Kennedy High School: North Babylon High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Midfield College Choice: Stony Brook University Club Affiliation: Long Island Yellow Jackets Major lacrosse honors: Under Armour All-American Uncommitted game; School girls, All-Division 8th and 9th grade
Kerrigan Miller High School: Bayport-Blue Point High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Midfield College Choice: USC Club Affiliation: Long Island Yellow Jackets Major lacrosse honors: All-Division Honors as 8th grader, All-County, All-League, All-Division as 9th grader, 2013 All-Tournament Team Honors U15 National Tournament, Under Armour All-American Uncommited Game Champions. USC camp MVP, UNC camp MVP, Nike Elite 120 (featured in Inside lacrosse as a player to watch. U15 National Tournament Finalist 2012 & 2013. National Draw Champions. The Northern Rise Champion, Syracuse Nike Cup Team Tournament Camp Champions. Rivalry Challenge Champions. Prime Time Recruiting Showcase Champions.
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Katie Reilly High School: Huntington High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Attack/Midfield College Choice: Princeton University Club Affiliation: Team Elevate
Taylor Moreno High School: Huntington High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Goalie College Choice: University of North Carolina Club Affiliation: Team Elevate
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Best at this Age Group ? 1st Tournament results
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Heroes tied YJ defo Topguns crushed Heroes Topguns crushed YJ defo Topguns loses to MD United East M&D Black not there
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91 Allstars lost to 2 weak teams in a B bracket 91 Allstars beat YJ ceraso badly
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MD United lost to Heros by 1 and beat TopGuns by 4. Didn't play YJ defo. I guess it shows that all of these teams can win or lose against each other on any given day. M and D would be in the mix.
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Hailey Bengston High School: Huntington High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Defense College Choice: Syracuse University Club Affiliation: Team Elevate
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Irina DeSimone High School: Huntington High School Graduation Year: 2016 Position: Midfiled College Choice: High Point University Club Affiliation: Team Elevate
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wouldn't be so quick to label 91 all stars as a "B" team. beat TG black and either tied or beat M&D black last year.
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Best at this Age Group ? 1st Tournament results
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Heroes tied YJ defo Topguns crushed Heroes Topguns crushed YJ defo Topguns loses to MD United East M&D Black not there
Seemed like Heros scored just before horn for Win over YJ however refs said horn had gone off
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Your comment is so spot on.
I am amazed. It seems to me that as these kids mature the distance in skill level between them gets smaller and smaller.
It will be an interesting Summer.
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wouldn't be so quick to label 91 all stars as a "B" team. beat TG black and either tied or beat M&D black last year. We'll see how you do next weekend, you'll be lucky to win 1
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wouldn't be so quick to label 91 all stars as a "B" team. beat TG black and either tied or beat M&D black last year. We'll see how you do next weekend, you'll be lucky to win 1 wow tough sched .... skywalkers blue, YJ defo ... u gonna get blown out
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wouldn't be so quick to label 91 all stars as a "B" team. beat TG black and either tied or beat M&D black last year.
tg black out played them had around 50 shots , one of those days when even a blind mouse gets a piece of cheese.. and no the goalie didnt make that many saves, all shots were off goal.. to mas stole our sticks the night before and loosened the strings.
and M&D had half a team
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Sorry but looking at last year schedule TG Never played a team 91 allstars
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91 only lost one game this weekend and yes next weekend will be tough, but all kids will play equally, it is a showcase...object is recruiting, winning is the bonus...
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you must not have much of a life if you checked back at tg's schedule from last year to say they never played 91 allstars. Very sad. 91 allstars was suffolk allstars for the last 5 years they teamed up with 91 to help further support admin and recruiting efforts. same team and coaches
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Lets see what yj and topguns do tbis weekend.. oh yeah and the 91 allstars
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you must not have much of a life if you checked back at tg's schedule from last year to say they never played 91 allstars. Very sad. 91 allstars was suffolk allstars for the last 5 years they teamed up with 91 to help further support admin and recruiting efforts. same team and coaches YOU WERE SO EASY TO HOOK
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M and D hammered Heros today. Top Guns v M and D tomorrow.
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Lets see what yj and topguns do tbis weekend.. oh yeah and the 991 allstars 91 allstars got crushed both games yesterday against a teams... and will get crushed again today by yj.... i guess it is easy to say theh are a b team...
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Top Guns lost to m&d today as well.
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Cage any way to get a list of colleges that were in attendance last year at Maverick Showtime? Or even better a list of who will be there this year? Expect to see the top rising sophmores (2017) based on the Long Island chatter. If you were lucky enough to receive an invitation, jump on it. Remember, there are some events that Are in fact Invitation Only and have a cap on those lucky enough to get the nod. My son to this day says it was the best showcase he attended and with the people running the girls side this year there will no doubt be hundreds of recruiters. It is pricy, but then again if your daughter has an idea of where she wants to go, chances are the coach will be attending this showcase. If not she can let the coach know she will be attending. I am on my brothers ipad and cant get to my email but I think this is at the end of June. Heard it was an amazing experience last year from girls who have given verbals over the past few months. You guys are talking about the Showtime event at Western Connecticut right? My daughter's going for the first time, and I saw someone earlier in the thread said it was awful last year. Wondering if anyone else has any input, or if that poster can provide details... Heard it will be very well attended and girls will receive top level coaching and gifts.
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Lets see what yj and topguns do tbis weekend.. oh yeah and the 91 allstars topguns won 3 of 4 lost to M&D by 1 allstars lost 3 of 4 beat weak team, got crushed by skywalkers, Yellow jackets and capitol. Yellow jackets won 3 of 4 A teams = Yellowjackets blue, skywalkers blue, topguns black, capitol blue, M&D black, Maryland united B teams = 91 allstars, express, liberty, wave, elevate
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Not to split hairs regarding "A" teams but I would consider the following as "A" team caliber: Hero's, TLC Red, NEMS, and NJ STEPS IMO...Capitol Blue is a pretty weak "A" team.
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Cream of the 2016s, IMO and in no particular order
A+: YJ Defo, TG, M&D, STEPS
A-: Heros, MD United
B+: Skywalkers, CHeckHers, TLC, Team 91, NEMS
What do you all think? Lets remember to look at the entire body of work and not only the last six months. Showcases have a way of murking the waters. Over time, this has been the pecking order IMO. Agree or disagree?
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Cream of the 2016s, IMO and in no particular order
A+: YJ Defo, TG, M&D, STEPS
A-: Heros, MD United
B+: Skywalkers, CHeckHers, TLC, Team 91, NEMS
What do you all think? Lets remember to look at the entire body of work and not only the last six months. Showcases have a way of murking the waters. Over time, this has been the pecking order IMO. Agree or disagree? Not bad but would move TG ,Steps down to A- and Skywalkers and 91 up to A-. I take showcase tournaments as little input into which teams are better . Has TG ever won a championship tournament with its 2016 team (not U15) lost in their own tournament to Team 91 all stars. 91 all stars may have gotten beaten up last weekend but was showcase so look at how they have done over the years at championships. Steps, not sure if they have won many if any championship tournaments the last couple years either.
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I haven't been very impressed with Skywalkers for this graduating year. Just like Capitol isn't very strong either. Team 91 is solid but not elite. I think STEPS has become really good
So maybe we can put STEPS TG Heros on the second line
A YJ M&D A- Steps TG Heros B+ Team 91 MD United B Skywalkers Checkhers TLC NEMS
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What major tournaments has 91 won? Skywalkers? I don't think there's been many if any
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What major tournaments has 91 won? Skywalkers? I don't think there's been many if any That is why I would put them at A-. Last couple of years the only two teams I recall winning actual championship tournaments are YJ defo and MD so I think those two stand alone at the top at the moment. Upcoming National draw will be interesting but schedules are horrible TG YJ in same pool but do not play each other which is just silly. Both clubs directors should ask for change in schedule to either play each other in pool play or playoffs.
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What major tournaments has 91 won? Skywalkers? I don't think there's been many if any That is why I would put them at A-. Last couple of years the only two teams I recall winning actual championship tournaments are YJ defo and MD so I think those two stand alone at the top at the moment. Upcoming National draw will be interesting but schedules are horrible TG YJ in same pool but do not play each other which is just silly. Both clubs directors should ask for change in schedule to either play each other in pool play or playoffs. Why would you send recruiting year kids to National Draw when barely any coaches go there anymore?
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What major tournaments has 91 won? Skywalkers? I don't think there's been many if any That is why I would put them at A-. Last couple of years the only two teams I recall winning actual championship tournaments are YJ defo and MD so I think those two stand alone at the top at the moment. Upcoming National draw will be interesting but schedules are horrible TG YJ in same pool but do not play each other which is just silly. Both clubs directors should ask for change in schedule to either play each other in pool play or playoffs. Why would you send recruiting year kids to National Draw when barely any coaches go there anymore? Looking at the Coaches attending seems to be a Big drop off in numbers from past years, when I saw that the same thought crossed my mind.
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Up until last year, M&D was alone at the top. They had won all their games against YJ Defo prior to last year. M&D has won all of their games against Top Guns Black. Last year with the showcase tournaments, YJ did beat M&D (although M&D had several key players out all year with injuries).
But YJ Defo is excellent. End of story. So, right now, I would agree, M&D and YJ Defo, when full strentgh and playing for a title---are the two best teams in the country at 2016. I think almost every player on both teams is a current DI commit.
But the fact is, there are really a bunch of good teams at this age group, that is for sure.
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go...
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The statement "he had to bring home the win or he was being let go" is completely unfounded and certainly false. Didn't YJ blow 91/Suffolk Co AS completely out of the water at National Draw last year? And in the past when all team were playing for "the win" had Suffolk/91 ever won a major tourney with YJ or MD in attendance? No
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go... Do you really think they needed to stall to win that game , was not very competitive, maybe the coach has a long memory and decided to give him a taste of his own medicine, yes SCGA 91 went into a stall at the last showcase these two teams played at.
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go... Do you really think they needed to stall to win that game , was not very competitive, maybe the coach has a long memory and decided to give him a taste of his own medicine, yes SCGA 91 went into a stall at the last showcase these two teams played at. 91 allstaRS WERE OUT COACHED BIG TIME LAST WEEK, DEFO LET HIM HAVE IT. TOMAS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. OR TAKE SOME OF THOSE COACHING CLASSES THAT LOCAL COLLEGES ARE GIVING
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the m&d coach is pretty good. barks all game at the refs but he always has them playing competetively
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Where would people rank the YJ 2nd team versus:
(1) other "A" teams on Long Island (eg Top Guns Black, Elevate Blue, Liberty, 91, Express Orange) and (2) other "A" teams mentioned in the thread (eg STEPS, Heroes, MD United, Skywalkers, Checkhers, TLC, NEMS, etc)?
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The statement "he had to bring home the win or he was being let go" is completely unfounded and certainly false. Didn't YJ blow 91/Suffolk Co AS completely out of the water at National Draw last year? And in the past when all team were playing for "the win" had Suffolk/91 ever won a major tourney with YJ or MD in attendance? No
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Where would people rank the YJ 2nd team versus:
(1) other "A" teams on Long Island (eg Top Guns Black, Elevate Blue, Liberty, 91, Express Orange) and (2) other "A" teams mentioned in the thread (eg STEPS, Heroes, MD United, Skywalkers, Checkhers, TLC, NEMS, etc)? They would rank right there with all the other clubs you mentioned, neck and neck with the B teams. MD red, TG Purple, Skywalker white....... you get the idea. Your the 2nd team from a top club, puts you right in with all the other 2nd teams from the other top clubs.
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go... Your entire post is false. YJ Defo crushed 91 All Stars. Defo was up by 7-8 goals and went into stall because he is a class guy and didn't want to run up the score too badly, just enough to shut up all the 91 All Star parents who like to brag that they beat us 3 years ago at Carol's showcase at Mitchell Field.
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Any club that stalls and limits the benches playing time at a showcase or any other tournament just simply doesn't get it. And the parents who's kids are getting shorted should not stand for it!!! It's supposed to be to give your players playing time and exposure. Not winning a bracket. That's for the owners and directors egos and to pump up their websites and wallets.
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"you play the game to win" Ask the girls why they play the game and most that I know would say the same thing. If that means settling the ball late in the game then so be it. With that said I believe everyone should play as equal as possible in these showcase tournaments.
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go... Your entire post is false. YJ Defo crushed 91 All Stars. Defo was up by 7-8 goals and went into stall because he is a class guy and didn't want to run up the score too badly, just enough to shut up all the 91 All Star parents who like to brag that they beat us 3 years ago at Carol's showcase at Mitchell Field. defo has had it with CR. tired of her BS. for instance she told him to play the best players and he had better win. He won but he played everybody evenly. at u15 Nationals she took his team away from him, a team he has been coaching for 6 years. The Yj coaches didnt know some of the players names. lol . I think they put tracy weiner and becky as coaches. defo was sent to scout other teams.
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Because these clubs are still playing for the wins...Heard 2016 Defo stalled against 91 this past weekend, had to bring home the win or he was being let go... Your entire post is false. YJ Defo crushed 91 All Stars. Defo was up by 7-8 goals and went into stall because he is a class guy and didn't want to run up the score too badly, just enough to shut up all the 91 All Star parents who like to brag that they beat us 3 years ago at Carol's showcase at Mitchell Field. defo has had it with CR. tired of her BS. for instance she told him to play the best players and he had better win. He won but he played everybody evenly. at u15 Nationals she took his team away from him, a team he has been coaching for 6 years. The Yj coaches didnt know some of the players names. lol . I think they put tracy weiner and becky as coaches. defo was sent to scout other teams. Wrong! Becky coached the second YJ team down there so stop posting lies.
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Any club that stalls and limits the benches playing time at a showcase or any other tournament just simply doesn't get it. And the parents who's kids are getting shorted should not stand for it!!! It's supposed to be to give your players playing time and exposure. Not winning a bracket. That's for the owners and directors egos and to pump up their websites and wallets. Amazing another genius who knows more than the people who have been doing it for years. CR has had more kids from her club play college lacrosse than any coach in the history of womens lacrosse so I think she knows what she is doing.If I had to guess Steppin Out had a kid who played YJ and got moved down a few levels of team and now calls on all YJ parents to not stand for it anymore. Where is your outrage at a coach being paid to sleep on the bench ?
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YJ afraid of TG Black- that simple
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We watch enough stalling at the high school level there is no need to stall at these summer tournaments let the girls play and get the exposure in front of the college coaches. I understand some of the teams are over matched and the winning coach is never going to look good by stalling or running up the score. I dont have a solution to the summer tournament stall it makes a boring game unbearable to watch.
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Does Liberty play in summer tournaments? When I go to National Draw, Lax bt the Sea, Lax Cure, etc. I see TG. YJ, Elevate and other well known LI teams and M&D, Skywalkers, MD United (all the MD teams) but I never see Liberty? What do they do in the summer? Where do they play?
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Does Liberty play in summer tournaments? When I go to National Draw, Lax bt the Sea, Lax Cure, etc. I see TG. YJ, Elevate and other well known LI teams and M&D, Skywalkers, MD United (all the MD teams) but I never see Liberty? What do they do in the summer? Where do they play? They take the summer off and rest up for the winter clinics. I think they avoid the competition but not sure why.
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Does Liberty play in summer tournaments? When I go to National Draw, Lax bt the Sea, Lax Cure, etc. I see TG. YJ, Elevate and other well known LI teams and M&D, Skywalkers, MD United (all the MD teams) but I never see Liberty? What do they do in the summer? Where do they play? They take the summer off and rest up for the winter clinics. I think they avoid the competition but not sure why. look at their website, they go to many major tournaments
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