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[quote=Anonymous]Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


who asks for all the tuition fee upfront?

Upon acceptance of a position every club will ask for the tuition. If you don't pay yellow jackets they remove you from the roster they don't care how good you are


But they give you 1 month to make the decision.

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[quote=Anonymous]Very funny you say that I have heard him and his partner
Smash another coach in the organization. Sad part he is the West Islip Coach. There daughters are decent players but not the All Americans they think they are. Gook Luck at Legacy or YJ

Quite obvious your are trying to sabotage them and you have an agenda beyond TG and seems rooted in hurting them in regards to West Islip. We have shared a sideline with them, and yes they are an acquired taste, but our daughter really liked playing with their girls and they were good kids. They have left, drop it already.

Wait? The wi dads who's daughters should have commited in 8th grade have left tg??


Yes to a non competitive team with no commits.


If your goal is to go to Hofstra or maybe Towson then TG is the right place for you

2019 YJ have more commits to Hofstra than TG.

Those must be second and third team kids! she can't get her own blue chip players to go there, that's all you need to know

yj 2019 a going to Hofstra. Tg black has 3 going to sb

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[quote=Anonymous]Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


who asks for all the tuition fee upfront?

Upon acceptance of a position every club will ask for the tuition. If you don't pay yellow jackets they remove you from the roster they don't care how good you are


NO club is asking you for ALL the money up front! YJ takes a chunk up front like everyone else and then you pay the rest off

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


who asks for all the tuition fee upfront?

Upon acceptance of a position every club will ask for the tuition. If you don't pay yellow jackets they remove you from the roster they don't care how good you are


But they give you 1 month to make the decision.

Yes the decision is take it or leave it.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


who asks for all the tuition fee upfront?

Upon acceptance of a position every club will ask for the tuition. If you don't pay yellow jackets they remove you from the roster they don't care how good you are


NO club is asking you for ALL the money up front! YJ takes a chunk up front like everyone else and then you pay the rest off

True but no team is holding a spot for your daughter without a payment being made.

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Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


you will end up at YJ either way, so don't waste $500 to hold a spot unless you don't care about donating $500 to the smiths

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Pretty simple. If you make TG you pay the $500. If you make YJ in October, you lose $500 that you paid. Other clubs want you to pay the club fee in full.


you will end up at YJ either way, so don't waste $500 to hold a spot unless you don't care about donating $500 to the smiths



Why would anyone want to be on YJ, they only care about a handful of girls, the rest are just cheerleaders.

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We are like the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and you are like the Cleveland Browns squad

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We are like the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and you are like the Cleveland Browns squad


Ummm..... my daughter is on TG 2023, I think you may have that backwards

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Ok , so maybe one age group. How did igloo work out. Congrats now you are J E T S

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[quote=Anonymous]Ok , so maybe one age group. How did igloo work out. Congrats now you are J E T S

Igloo worked out fine beat them 2 out of 3 times. Igloo beat you twice second time was a smack down. Good luck with YJ being the 3rd best team on Long Island ain't bad.

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In only 2023 group. So stand proud

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[quote=Anonymous]Ok , so maybe one age group. How did igloo work out. Congrats now you are J E T S

Igloo worked out fine beat them 2 out of 3 times. Igloo beat you twice second time was a smack down. Good luck with YJ being the 3rd best team on Long Island ain't bad.

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[quote=Anonymous]Ok , so maybe one age group. How did igloo work out. Congrats now you are J E T S

Igloo worked out fine beat them 2 out of 3 times. Igloo beat you twice second time was a smack down. Good luck with YJ being the 3rd best team on Long Island ain't bad.


I would bet any amount of money Igloo will not be in this conversation in 2-3 years. Even TG teams have had shining stars bust on the scene only to burn out, but they are overall a much, much stronger option as a club than Igloo. All teams being about equal in this age really doesn't mean much and college coaches certainly know nothing of this, would still go with YJ as top choice, TG as second, about three or four clubs next, then Igloo.

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom

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You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.


Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.


Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .



Then how do you explain ZERO TG girls leaving for YJ but good YJ players (girls that actually play) leaving YJ for TG?? With more to follow next weekend. Plenty of TG are going to top schools. The girls going to Hofstra may want to stay close. Plenty of YJs going to mediocre schools with no money. Think your claims are not backed by any actual facts

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Girls are leaving YJ 2023 because the coaching is atrocious.

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Girls are leaving YJ 2023 because the coaching is atrocious.


And with the new coach bringing his daughter along with the MS girls to the YJ Blue team, the parents will be begging for Giacolone to be brought back. Be careful what you parents wish for.....even worse times ahead on the horizon.

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.


Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .


Hilarious. Triggered.

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.


Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .



is that you west Hampton?

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one player very very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection

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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy ball.



Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .



is that you west Hampton?


Carnac says "The question your wife asks when she actually gets satisfied" ? How do you live with yourself being such a coward to be too afraid to confront a person who abuses you and worse your wife .

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.

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I can't be believe how stupid people are. Igloo went down to Richmond and won all there game as the 'Ship. Not about 1 girl - but a team with a lot of very good players that play well was a team. Oh and by the way Elite 80!in November will have the top head coaches there. So I guess they do have access.

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach


That's the truth, the reasons people hate YJ and are enjoying watching the team implode, is due to the elitist attitude of the parents, players, and coaches. They did this to themselves and I'm enjoying every second of it. No my daughter does not play on YJ and never will, but does enjoy beating them.

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach


The slide might continue, but at some point you become a middle school player with HS aspirations and realize that if you don't play YJ you get very little love at the HS level, because your coaches are also YJ coaches, it sucks, but it's very smart on CR part

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach


The slide might continue, but at some point you become a middle school player with HS aspirations and realize that if you don't play YJ you get very little love at the HS level, because your coaches are also YJ coaches, it sucks, but it's very smart on CR part


You are literally out of your mind!!! Coaches play the best players. For some program YJ players are the better ones for other programs such as Smithtown West and Ward Melville, many are f the better players were not YJs. I'm certain that my TG daughter will be starting over the YJ girls on her HS team. Why? Because she's better and already does, ya dope!!

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player, no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach


The slide might continue, but at some point you become a middle school player with HS aspirations and realize that if you don't play YJ you get very little love at the HS level, because your coaches are also YJ coaches, it sucks, but it's very smart on CR part


You are literally out of your mind!!! Coaches play the best players. For some program YJ players are the better ones for other programs such as Smithtown West and Ward Melville, many are f the better players were not YJs. I'm certain that my TG daughter will be starting over the YJ girls on her HS team. Why? Because she's better and already does, ya dope!!


Ask some of the older TG players who left the program because the coach at their HS thought it would be better for them to play YJ

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If you are a good player, you will play, no matter where you are. Elite travel programs will often have top high school middies playing defense on their teams because you simply can't run 15 middies in a game. The problem is TG bases their evaluations on the previous year's play. They do not practice in fall, and you can't call drills at the bubble practices, even though they are good for the price. TG start practices in May, but the coach is not always there. You will show up to the first tournament in June and positions will be the same as the previous year. Girls who put a full year's worth of training on their own, and a full high school season of lacrosse, are rarely given a chance to move up the talent ladder. If your daughter is not in the top 10-12 girls they view as starters, she will not have a fair chance to play as much, which makes it difficult to show improvement and get more playing time. This is fine for an elite D1 college program, where even the best freshman middies get on the field playing defense, but not for all who are still developing in high school. TG and YJ have some really good players sitting on the bench. Not sure if that's the way it should be when your daughter is trying to get recruited and develop as a player.


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If you are a good player, you will play, no matter where you are. Elite travel programs will often have top high school middies playing defense on their teams because you simply can't run 15 middies in a game. The problem is TG bases their evaluations on the previous year's play. They do not practice in fall, and you can't call drills at the bubble practices, even though they are good for the price. TG start practices in May, but the coach is not always there. You will show up to the first tournament in June and positions will be the same as the previous year. Girls who put a full year's worth of training on their own, and a full high school season of lacrosse, are rarely given a chance to move up the talent ladder. If your daughter is not in the top 10-12 girls they view as starters, she will not have a fair chance to play as much, which makes it difficult to show improvement and get more playing time. This is fine for an elite D1 college program, where even the best freshman middies get on the field playing defense, but not for all who are still developing in high school. TG and YJ have some really good players sitting on the bench. Not sure if that's the way it should be when your daughter is trying to get recruited and develop as a player.



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Your daughter is a 2023 and your talking about college coaches ? Slow down mom


You know it! TG 2023 is the best team in LI (with Igloo) for a reason. Both have the best girls on the Island. Both didn't buy into the YJ BS and have very dedicated players who get the job done. YJ is a hot mess, a shame for the girls having to deal with big egos and daddy
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Hilarious . Every couple years (see TG 2020) some moron comes on here declaring TG team still wearing diapers is the best team blah blah. Then a couple kids of the better players realize they don't want to go to Hofstra and the next thing you know the same moron is posting that no college coach cares if your team wins or not. Your best players will be leaving soon and you will then finally shut up .



Then how do you explain ZERO TG girls leaving for YJ but good YJ players (girls that actually play) leaving YJ for TG?? With more to follow next weekend. Plenty of TG are going to top schools. The girls going to Hofstra may want to stay close. Plenty of YJs going to mediocre schools with no money. Think your claims are not backed by any actual facts


TG has never had a high school age group that could say their top team is better than YJ top team, it's no accident . Maybe you will be the first but doubtful. I hope you do but I have seen this act before . A few of your parents really think this 2023 group is special going so far as to say they have beaten the older team convincingly when they scrimmaged , maybe this is the team to break thru.

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TG has never had a high school age group that could say their top team is better than YJ top team, it's no accident . Maybe you will be the first but doubtful. I hope you do but I have seen this act before . A few of your parents really think this 2023 group is special going so far as to say they have beaten the older team convincingly when they scrimmaged , maybe this is the team to break thru.[/quote]

That's because the older team is terrible. That team didn't win one tournament all summer long.

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[quote=Privacy]What is wrong with Igloo?

Daddy coach, one team club , team very dependent on one player,
no brand name, no recruiting track record


All very valid points except for one, beat down yellow jacket blue by a huge margin and was not even a close game! Now the YJ team will come out and say it was all about one girl but in reality says they don't have the talent, the horses or the coaching to beat one playervery very sad! At the end of the day there are better options out there people! YJ has way too many small girls that can't compete at the higher level who should be on the B team but won't be moved down because of the friends and family connection


Are you dense? How does what you said even remotely say anything different about igloo . We get it you hate YJ because your kid either barely plays or can't make the top team.


Ouch struck a nerve? We get it you're angry and embarrassed because your team imhas become the laughingstock of the YJ organization . Unfortunately the slide will continue unless some drastic measures are taken. If the girls who say they're leaving actually do leave this team will be nothing more than just a glorified PAL team with a daddy coach


Yes ,morons posting a response to something that in actuality has nothing to do with the actual post is irritating . Don't try to disguise your hatred of a group of 12 year old girls with some nonsensical reply . The size of the girls comment just shows what a completely ignorant poster you are ,have you met Kylie Ohmiller , not exactly the biggest kid on the field and that list of "smaller" players who are incredible goes on and on.

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Size matters. It is okay for you to believe that it is how you use it that matters.

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Why, coaching at both is not strong


Nothing to do with coaching, its the fact that CR has a significant amount of HS coaches coercing kids to play YJ, how do you think it would go for a kid from Northport, Mt. Sinai, etc to play TG? Not well

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