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cant believe a kid at chaminade reclassed to 2020 . he is a special player Ever consider that his parents might have done it for academic and/or social reasons? not a chance 3 sport star qb in football , point guard in basketball was a top scorer on long island as a hold back 8th grader brother plays at a top d1 school Star????
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Star NBA? NFL? Eight grader playing against 7 th graders . Star ??
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Lets do this comparison. You have states like MD where the kindergarten cutoff date is Sept. So now a Sept 2000 kid in NY would be a 2018 grad. In Maryland he or she is now going to start school next Sept so will be a 2019. Parents hold back and now is a 2020 graduate. Now this MD kid decides to go to a private after doing a 9th grade year in public school and will repeat that 9th grade year at private so is now a 2021 graduate of high school. Happens all the time. What I don;t get is that if a kid is a holdback AND reclassifies, before 10th grade, don't recruiters see through this and basically realize they are watching a 'high school' kid dominate middle schoolers?? That's not going to change in college - will always be playing against younger kids. It's not like he has to jump to his junior year when he enters college at 20 yrs old.
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cant believe a kid at chaminade reclassed to 2020 . he is a special player Ever consider that his parents might have done it for academic and/or social reasons? not a chance 3 sport star qb in football , point guard in basketball was a top scorer on long island as a hold back 8th grader brother plays at a top d1 school watch chaminade athletics over next 4 yrs Star????
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so to be clear. if you repeat a year when you enter say, Chaminade, its reclassification not hold back? Not sure why you're so hung up on the terminology, but yes - I believe so. And if you graduate from HS, then go to a private school for another year before college, that's a PG (post-graduate) year. All have the same result - kids who are older than they should be for their grade (based on birthdate).
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Star NBA? NFL? Eight grader playing against 7 th graders . Star ?? said he played varsity as an 8th grade holdback, scored 72 goals on varsity last yr
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Emotional stability? What does the boy say to his friends. How does a boy who already matured in certain areas of his life fit in with his peers. What about life after lacrosse
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What level of competition
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Not defensive, kid doesn't go there, I am a little sick of seeing the same Chaminade bashers on here over and over....or is it the same person just spouting more nonsense. WHO CARES what Chaminade does if your son doesn't go there? I don't care what they do, just like I don't care what any school my children don't attend does. Nor should you.
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Emotional stability? What does the boy say to his friends. How does a boy who already matured in certain areas of his life fit in with his peers. What about life after lacrosse It's interesting but most boys don't know even know that a kid is a holdback. Many of the players who are holdbacks get accolades due to being great athletes and as a result this surpasses much of the stigma of being a holdback. There are a few kids that were the early commits to schools that are holdbacks on the Chaminade team. They are great players but not as great as they once we're because others have gone through puberty and caught up or passed them in size and skill. Yet they received the early commitment.
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Not a Chaminade Basher . I think quite well of Chaminade. Just some honest questions about a boys development . That might provoke some thought
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so to be clear. if you repeat a year when you enter say, Chaminade, its reclassification not hold back? Since when does the school allow this sort of thing to happen? I can see kids who were maybe held back a year upon entry to pre-K or kindergarten (this sort of thing sometimes happens with public school kids as well), but Chaminade isn't taking 9th graders and allowing them to start over, nor are they accepting students who somehow did 8th grade twice.
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so to be clear. if you repeat a year when you enter say, Chaminade, its reclassification not hold back? Since when does the school allow this sort of thing to happen? I can see kids who were maybe held back a year upon entry to pre-K or kindergarten (this sort of thing sometimes happens with public school kids as well), but Chaminade isn't taking 9th graders and allowing them to start over, nor are they accepting students who somehow did 8th grade twice. They take a kid who takes entrance exam and then will go to a private school for one year for 9th then do 9th again at Chaminade.
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is there a difference between a reclassified and a hold back? Chaminade has at least one hold back should have been class of 2016 Usually reclassified is when they change grades after starting school (the "re-" part) and hold backs are when they don't start kindergarten according to their age (hold back from starting school). How do you characterize a kid who was left back in grade school for academic or social maturation issues years before they or their parents ever considered youth lacrosse. Should such kids be stigmatized if they excel in 7th, 8th grades because they are older? I think not. I don't believe parents on LI have been holding their kids back in kindergarten in the hopes that the kid plays lacrosse later on in the and that they get a leg up on the competition. Also, kids go through puberty at different ages - should an early bloomer be looked at negatively because they are bigger and stronger? Get real.
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Lets do this comparison. You have states like MD where the kindergarten cutoff date is Sept. So now a Sept 2000 kid in NY would be a 2018 grad. In Maryland he or she is now going to start school next Sept so will be a 2019. Parents hold back and now is a 2020 graduate. Now this MD kid decides to go to a private after doing a 9th grade year in public school and will repeat that 9th grade year at private so is now a 2021 graduate of high school. Happens all the time. What I don;t get is that if a kid is a holdback AND reclassifies, before 10th grade, don't recruiters see through this and basically realize they are watching a 'high school' kid dominate middle schoolers?? That's not going to change in college - will always be playing against younger kids. It's not like he has to jump to his junior year when he enters college at 20 yrs old. Most don't continue to standout. When you've been playing down for the last five years it's tough to face men who are just as big and strong. Only now they're more talented. It's called facing the music. My 16 yo played in committed games this summer, he was playing against many 19 and 20 year old 2016's. Not all that great skill wise. Some gave him cheap shots when they got burned, kind of laughable actually. I predict many of these kids moving forward will wash out, get cut, or never play.
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is there a difference between a reclassified and a hold back? Chaminade has at least one hold back should have been class of 2016 Usually reclassified is when they change grades after starting school (the "re-" part) and hold backs are when they don't start kindergarten according to their age (hold back from starting school). How do you characterize a kid who was left back in grade school for academic or social maturation issues years before they or their parents ever considered youth lacrosse. Should such kids be stigmatized if they excel in 7th, 8th grades because they are older? I think not. I don't believe parents on LI have been holding their kids back in kindergarten in the hopes that the kid plays lacrosse later on in the and that they get a leg up on the competition. Also, kids go through puberty at different ages - should an early bloomer be looked at negatively because they are bigger and stronger? Get real. Ehh there are parents that start trying to have their families in Feb, March so they are born in Nov, Dec. So they can be in the next year's class of kindergarten. As for kids being left back. When was the last time you heard of a kid on Long Island being left back. Lol. Parents plan these things. You would be very surprised what parents do to have their child have an advantage.
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Not a Chaminade Basher . I think quite well of Chaminade. Just some honest questions about a boys development . That might provoke some thought Nothing about Catholic school boys provokes any type of thought on my part.
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Lets do this comparison. You have states like MD where the kindergarten cutoff date is Sept. So now a Sept 2000 kid in NY would be a 2018 grad. In Maryland he or she is now going to start school next Sept so will be a 2019. Parents hold back and now is a 2020 graduate. Now this MD kid decides to go to a private after doing a 9th grade year in public school and will repeat that 9th grade year at private so is now a 2021 graduate of high school. Happens all the time. What I don;t get is that if a kid is a holdback AND reclassifies, before 10th grade, don't recruiters see through this and basically realize they are watching a 'high school' kid dominate middle schoolers?? That's not going to change in college - will always be playing against younger kids. It's not like he has to jump to his junior year when he enters college at 20 yrs old. Most don't continue to standout. When you've been playing down for the last five years it's tough to face men who are just as big and strong. Only now they're more talented. It's called facing the music. My 16 yo played in committed games this summer, he was playing against many 19 and 20 year old 2016's. Not all that great skill wise. Some gave him cheap shots when they got burned, kind of laughable actually. I predict many of these kids moving forward will wash out, get cut, or never play. Except for the 2013 Tewaaraton winner who was 23 when he graduated from College...
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is there a difference between a reclassified and a hold back? Chaminade has at least one hold back should have been class of 2016 Usually reclassified is when they change grades after starting school (the "re-" part) and hold backs are when they don't start kindergarten according to their age (hold back from starting school). What a bummer..... have to wait for a certain time of year to start.... I was banging the old lady anytime I could no matter the time of year...but that's just me. How do you characterize a kid who was left back in grade school for academic or social maturation issues years before they or their parents ever considered youth lacrosse. Should such kids be stigmatized if they excel in 7th, 8th grades because they are older? I think not. I don't believe parents on LI have been holding their kids back in kindergarten in the hopes that the kid plays lacrosse later on in the and that they get a leg up on the competition. Also, kids go through puberty at different ages - should an early bloomer be looked at negatively because they are bigger and stronger? Get real. Ehh there are parents that start trying to have their families in Feb, March so they are born in Nov, Dec. So they can be in the next year's class of kindergarten. As for kids being left back. When was the last time you heard of a kid on Long Island being left back. Lol. Parents plan these things. You would be very surprised what parents do to have their child have an advantage.
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[quote=Anonymous]but Chaminade isn't taking 9th graders and allowing them to start over, nor are they accepting students who somehow did 8th grade twice. You are wrong! Yes, they absolutely have taken these student/athletes. So have the other privates/catholics. It is a shamefully encouraged by the parents and club coaches. The trick is to repeat an 8th grade year at a private then enter as a freshman in a catholic. As to an earlier post--- Yes, the kids in these schools know who the holdbacks are. Especially the kids one year ahead of them. Many played with or against the holdbacks when they were playing CYO hoops/ baseball, Pop warner football, or PAL Lax on appropriate grade levels. Cheating is cheating. I wish the schools had standards and the parents had ethics.
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They absolutely take kids who went to 8th grade twice. I am friends with two of them. Now giving out athletic scholarships, that I haven't heard of.
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is there a difference between a reclassified and a hold back? Chaminade has at least one hold back should have been class of 2016 Usually reclassified is when they change grades after starting school (the "re-" part) and hold backs are when they don't start kindergarten according to their age (hold back from starting school). How do you characterize a kid who was left back in grade school for academic or social maturation issues years before they or their parents ever considered youth lacrosse. Should such kids be stigmatized if they excel in 7th, 8th grades because they are older? I think not. I don't believe parents on LI have been holding their kids back in kindergarten in the hopes that the kid plays lacrosse later on in the and that they get a leg up on the competition. Get real. ... You obviously don't live in my town
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do a lot of Chaminade lax players play football as well?
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do a lot of Chaminade lax players play football as well? Why ask?
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yes, there are quite a few.
the knock on last year's crop was that they checked out (actually of mentally) once they committed to a school for lax.
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yes, there are quite a few.
the knock on last year's crop was that they checked out (actually of mentally) once they committed to a school for lax. No they didn't, so where did you get that fact?? Please tell. S
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yes, there are quite a few.
the knock on last year's crop was that they checked out (actually of mentally) once they committed to a school for lax. No they didn't, so where did you get that fact?? Please tell. S Well, they had the worst year in recent Chaminade history, so clearly something was wrong there.
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yes, there are quite a few.
the knock on last year's crop was that they checked out (actually of mentally) once they committed to a school for lax. No they didn't, so where did you get that fact?? Please tell. S Well, they had the worst year in recent Chaminade history, so clearly something was wrong there. Not what was written by the first poster, he/she stated that the kids "checked out" once they committed. Where did this information come from? Parent? Coach? Student-athlete? Or is this an opinion, which should then be stated as such, not as if this is something known. Nonsense statement, they didn't check out, they were a BAD football team, it happens.
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I guess the scholarship money all went to lacrosse
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Now that school has started - any word on whether this Varsity A and B teams are happening at Chaminade and St. As?
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why are you afraid to call school and ask for A.D.?
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Can only speak from experience at Chaminade - 100% NO Lacrosse Scholarships, and 100% NO entrance exam waived.
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Can only speak from experience at Chaminade - 100% NO Lacrosse Scholarships, and 100% NO entrance exam waived. Does Chaminade offer academic scholarships? There are no athletic scholarships in college Div III sports, yet they happen under the auspices of academic scholarships for the undeserving. Considering that that is governed by the NCAA, with severe sanctions for violation, why would you think that it can't happen in a self-regulated scenario? I take it that the student athlete would still have to pass the entrance exam.
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yes they offer hold backs and repeaters full tuition and transportation
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Can only speak from experience at Chaminade - 100% NO Lacrosse Scholarships, and 100% NO entrance exam waived. Does Chaminade offer academic scholarships? There are no athletic scholarships in college Div III sports, yet they happen under the auspices of academic scholarships for the undeserving. Considering that that is governed by the NCAA, with severe sanctions for violation, why would you think that it can't happen in a self-regulated scenario? I take it that the student athlete would still have to pass the entrance exam. Tons of kids (players) are not excepted right away and get wait listed. That is how they get them in later.
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Can only speak from experience at Chaminade - 100% NO Lacrosse Scholarships, and 100% NO entrance exam waived. Does Chaminade offer academic scholarships? There are no athletic scholarships in college Div III sports, yet they happen under the auspices of academic scholarships for the undeserving. Considering that that is governed by the NCAA, with severe sanctions for violation, why would you think that it can't happen in a self-regulated scenario? I take it that the student athlete would still have to pass the entrance exam. Tons of kids (players) are not excepted right away and get wait listed. That is how they get them in later. Based on your spelling/grammar proficiency I am guessing you are not a graduate!!
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Can only speak from experience at Chaminade - 100% NO Lacrosse Scholarships, and 100% NO entrance exam waived. Does Chaminade offer academic scholarships? There are no athletic scholarships in college Div III sports, yet they happen under the auspices of academic scholarships for the undeserving. Considering that that is governed by the NCAA, with severe sanctions for violation, why would you think that it can't happen in a self-regulated scenario? I take it that the student athlete would still have to pass the entrance exam. Tons of kids (players) are not excepted right away and get wait listed. That is how they get them in later. Based on your spelling/grammar proficiency I am guessing you are not a graduate!! When in doubt, go after the typos!!!
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