US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017

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who will be the coach of 2019 legacy? word is Sean Keenan can anyone confirm? tryouts are next weekend

It says it on Pluto's website

Flounder not Pluto

C'mon boys it's Bluto. That's like calling Fonzi -Ponzi.

Who cares, it's just a ploy to get kids to the tryout $$$

hope not, that would be very cheesy and would give the ownership a bad label for sure.

Any insight regarding the low turnout for fl$ 2019 and 2018 tryouts?

Sure having SK and MT coaching the turnout should be pretty good.

MT coached the team 2 years ago and it was a disaster

I find that hard to believe. MT took SWR to states in his 1st year as HC. I'm sure many swr and Smithtown kids will be following.

SK and MT were running 2019 last year at this time and they couldn't field one team. I'm not sure that kids will be flocking over there now.

What team are we talking about here?

How is team twenty four for 2019 boys?, they recently had a tryout.

Apparently your son was not on Commando's

Brian Boyle with Sean Keenan would have been a great combo for all involved.

As far as SWR you know where some their coaches were right after the Yorktown loss. The burger place having a laugh and a beer and driving home in the black pickup

Who cares

Can anyone confirm that fl$ 2019 had less then 30 kids at tryouts?

What team is that ?

Confirmed
I was there

MT won't be there. His priorities are SWR and his other legacy team especially since he doesn't have a 2019 son anymore. They put his name on it for people who do like him. If you don't like him don't worry. He wasn't even at the tryout. If you do like him don't count it.

It was right around 30

Wow that program is going down. I'm guessing the gc kids left?

The program is not going down. That's ridiculous! At the same tryout they had about 80 kids for 2020. The older you get the smaller the numbers are so 10th and 11th grade are always less. The future of the program is solid based on the younger teams.

If that logic of smaller numbers is true. Not saying it is not, then why the larger numbers at some of the other programs

I think for various reasons. Express and 91 have big numbers, but they 4-5 teams at 2019. Outlaws has 2 or 3 teams. Legacy is trying to rebuild one.

That year really wasn't that good to begin with. Now with GC kids who left what really type of team will they have?3

Last year they didn't have a 2019 team. Were these GC kids you like to talk about on the 2018/2019 team last year? They can have one decent 2019 team this year without the GC kids.

Big deal. They went all over LI holding free clinics trying to drum up business. You would hope for more kids than that after all that effort. And for all the high minded nonsense they preach, they got down in the mud and engaged in a nasty war last year with Chaminade. Long-term that cannot be good for a business that is at the top of the price point. What they have now is a travel team made up of 90% Manhasset and CSH. Good for them.

We must be talking about two different programs. I was talking about south shore program, run by TZ and MT.

TZ's program went from having 3 2019 teams after they took over the old Havoc DD, to zero teams a year later. The other group that's being confused with this discussion that has the CSH and Manhasset kids tried to make in roads in some blue collar communities but failed evidently.

Yeah but TZ should have never had 3, so I wouldn't even count that one. Really they went from two to zero, and now will be back up to one....what's the other program being confused in the convo? Igloo?

assuming they had a decent tryout then for legacy 2019 to field a solid group. I believe a solid core played with 2018 past summer and may have added to it.

Yes it looks like the core group that played up on 2018 team last year and some new kids from tryouts will complete their 2019 team this year.

For the Love of Google

FL$ ... The program is just not competitive. Most of the teams (especially the 2019s) cannot compete with the top programs in the northeast. They are entered in low-profile tournaments to avoid being exposed. Time has passed them by. All you need to do is look at the limited number of D1 (or any division) commitments of the 2017s, 2018s, 2019s, the numbers don't lie. Without the kids from that one town mentioned, they will be even more painful to watch.

Don't know about the 2018 or 2019, but my son was on the 2017 team and, while not Turtles-level, was quite respectable. By my count, there are at least 10 DI commitments and 6 top-20 DIII (may have missed one or two in the past few months). That leaves five (or so) kids that (at this point) are uncommitted out of 21. The average SAT for the schools which these kids are committed to is just over 1350 (on a two-test basis): 94th percentile.

FL$ got what was coming to them. They divested last year during tryouts away from Catholic school players and sold their soul to Manhasset and GC. They denied it, but was plain to see. Hide behind principal but it was about $$$ They were atrocious during the one fall tourney I watched. Attack was average, middies a step slow, defense was awful. Heard spring was the same, but can't confirm because they once again hide in obscure taylor made tourneys that they have vested interest in. No exposure is why people left but they can't see that. That's what you get when you try to marginalize. And now that GC has gone home, they are left a shell of themselves with no avenue to go down to rebuild till rifts heal. Shrewd business plain boys.

So your son got cut by them? lol

What program had more than 50 kids at a 2017 or 2018 tryout?

And the 2018 team is very solid as well. they compete with any of the A teams on LI.

How many D1 commits on the 2018 team? 1? 2? I think the best player went elsewhere to get committed to a top IVY.

And the 2018 team is very solid as well. they compete with any of the A teams on LI. [/quote]

How many D1 commits on the 2018 team? 1? 2? I think the best player went elsewhere to get committed to a top IVY. [/quote]

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Any 2019 teams fold this year?

The 2018 team is ok. Compete with any of the A teams on LI? What is your definition of compete?

How is Schwalje as a coach for this year?

And the 2018 team is very solid as well. they compete with any of the A teams on LI.[/quote]

The 2018 team is ok. Compete with any of the A teams on LI? What is your definition of compete? [/quote]

Compete- play competitive games!! That is what they did and will continue to do. 2018 is about recruiting and you need to play good teams in competitive games. That's it!!

The 2018 team is ok. Compete with any of the A teams on LI? What is your definition of compete? [/quote]

Compete- play competitive games!! That is what they did and will continue to do. 2018 is about recruiting and you need to play good teams in competitive games. That's it!! [/quote]

How many D1 commits do they have? 1?

Compete- play competitive games!! That is what they did and will continue to do. 2018 is about recruiting and you need to play good teams in competitive games. That's it!! [/quote]

How many D1 commits do they have? 1? [/quote]

so having a commit to Monmouth or Cleveland state is how you judge a team? Maybe waiting for test scores for ivies or necac??

How many D1 commits do they have? 1? [/quote]

so having a commit to Monmouth or Cleveland state is how you judge a team? Maybe waiting for test scores for ivies or necac??

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Ugh, most of the Ivies are pretty full. Hope you didn't turn down too many offers. Good luck...

Yes, many of us thoroughly enjoy watching this organization flounder.....

What organization is floundering?

Why would you enjoy seeing the organization flounder? Is it because it hurts the kids? Seriously?? Get a hobby dude! You are a real loser.

so having a commit to Monmouth or Cleveland state is how you judge a team? Maybe waiting for test scores for ivies or necac??

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Ugh, most of the Ivies are pretty full. Hope you didn't turn down too many offers. Good luck... [/quote]

What's with D1 commits. Is that what you base an organization on. That's sad. How about an organization developing kids so that they get into a good college regardless of what division they are in. Plus why give a verbal when your in 10th grade? Oh so you the parent can tell your friends that your kid gave a verbal. Get a life.

Ok, I guess having multiple D1 commits on one team only means you have multiple kids that have shown they are among the best kids in their respective grade. If yours is turning down those D1 offers in hopes of something better, more power to him. Either way, your envy shines through...

Seems you missed the point that the other post was making, so OK . . .

Yes, It is that simple, the most competitive programs have the most D1 Commits. If you are a decent high school player from Long Island or Maryland, you can get picked up by a D3 with good grades and no club team. You don't need an outrageously expensive, sub-par program to help 'develop your kid'

Well, I would think you give a verbal in 10th grade because that is what you want. Many kids know what they want to do, if the school offers their major, is desirable and has a lacrosse program they are comfortable with, why not.

No,I think you missed it. the first part of the original post is a the poster making a point based upon his/her opinion on how programs should be developing and preparing kids - fine. The second part of the post devolves to the typical hate spewing intended to insult parents of kids who have made early D1 verbals. It has no value and will not change anything, including the recruiting status of his own child. Stop rooting for kids to fail and hating on what others have. It doesn't make your kid any better as a player or you any better as a parent. Whether or not ER is good or bad for the game is incidental until the rules change. But just stop pretending all of this ER bashing is anything else but jealousy. And if you are fortunate enough to take advantage of it, I would recommend that you do. Then I bet the perspective changes - pretty quickly.
Stop the hate (and envy...)! quote=Anonymous]

Seems you missed the point that the other post was making, so OK . . . [/quote]

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Great post above, right on target. Mine was the original post responding to the post regarding a certain Club's status in the 2018 and 2019 grades. The clubs, and HS teams, are usually judged on how "good" they are based on the number of D1 commits, like it or not. A club is also judged by consumers by the number of kids they commit. The teams from that other particular club only have one or two commits combined from those grade years. In fact, a couple of kids left, and went elsewhere to get a commitment. That's just a fact. Other clubs on LI other than the big two, have multiple commits in those grades. So, if your son's goal is to play lacrosse in college, at the highest levels, he would be better served at other clubs given their track records and the track record of the club in question. This is not an opinion, it is just based on numbers, which don't lie.

Sounds like TZ's team floundering ...They didn't have a 2019 team last year but I hope those kids stay together its a little late to find another team.

The 2019 TZ team is a great group that isn't floundering and will prob stick together now.

Legitimate question...What is the purpose of the club team? Is it to improve player ability? Player to have fun or get player committed/recruited? I have my thoughts on this subject, would like to hear some other feedback and feelings on the club game.

In a vacuum you want all three. But placement of AAA AA and A along with the business of the game can really deplete the fun factor. Conversely the division of the levels AAA AA and A really do heighten and even separate the focus on Recruiting.

I have yet to truly see teaching over the expectation to just do. even at clinics it all reps and not how to

If one organization recruits all the best players they should have alot of D1 commits. My kid has been in contact with 10 to 15 D1 schools and he doesn't play travel. Played in the past but never for one of the big programs. So I would disagree with what you said.

Then how was your son seen?

High school.

Just to give some advice to others. If your son is a good lax player and works hard and you are a realistic parent then all you have to do is get your son in the right position for him. There are plenty of things out there for your kid to do to get noticed. It's not all about the top organizations getting your kid in a D1 program. Don't get me wrong it does help. Do what is right for your kid. Make some contacts on and off the field with lax guys and people will be more then happy to give you ideas. Funny thing is that I have not dumped alot of money on travel and I can write to you and say how proud I am of all of his hard work that he did to get to varsity as a freshman, start and is being looked at by D1 schools. But if he chooses to go to a D3 school that's fine with me. Proud no matter where he goes.

Unfortunately, most HS programs do NOT get the kind of exposure you're talking about. If your son is at strong program and played Varsity as a Freshman, that's great. If he's at an average program and receiving that kind of exposure, consider yourself extremely lucky. Lastly, if your son is that good, then he's that 1/10 of 1% of kids. Congrats, an example of "if he's that good they'll find him". For the rest of us, who's kid's had to really work to get some exposure, your method will not work. Mine is a D1 commit, played varsity as a freshman, and had to do many events to get recruited. Without the support of his club, would have never gotten into the top showcases, where was an all-star. His HS Coach didn't even know what those events were, let alone have any ability to secure an invite! Without the club piece he still wouldn't be committed.

Fortunate for our program we have hs coaches that care. They have been around and would be happy to help out the kids. In my son's case the hard work payed off. More hs coaches should do the same for the kids. It's a top hs program that he plays for that has always been successful. Very proud parents of all that he has worked for. Just to put it out there he only played in one recruiting tournament and is getting calls and emails from D1 schools. Keep your kids confidence up and encourage him to go get that spot on varsity if that's one of his goals. You can get looks from D1 without having to do travel is all that I'm trying to say. Don't give all of these travel teams that much credit.

If your son did "one" event and got 15 D1 teams interested, that's unheard of, he must be the next Rabil.
Again, your advise is great for a kid at a top HS program, with a Coach that's on the ball and interested in getting his players recruited. Without that support, it is very difficult to get recruited at the D1 level. That's why the club piece is so important. No, I'm not affiliated with any Club, just letting folks know the other side of the story.

Your another one of those non believer's. I said 10 to 15 D1 coaches. 43 total emails were sent to him if you really want to know. Maybe you need me to show you the emails. Oh I deleted them by mistake. Unheard of but no you can say you heard od it. What the heck would I lie to anybody about that. I'm as proud as can be of my son. You don't need travel to get looked at by D1 school and that my friend is a fact. 2

If your kid is good they will find him trust me.

sounds like a WI parent

Great for your son.

There are roughly 215 HS Sophomores (2019) committed top play DI Lacrosse.
It looks like 99% of them play club lacrosse.

BTW. it's not all about recruiting. It is also about developing as a player, making friends and starting to developing a network.

Playing against the best competition is an important component of player development. The reality is, most HS programs are not very competitive and most HS games are played at a very slow pace.

Go watch the top 91 team play Mad Lax National or Laxachusetts. Check the 91 or Express Rosters, you will find the rosters loaded with kids from Massapequa, Syosset, Manhasset, Ward Melville, St. Anthony's, Chaminade and other top programs.

Advising against playing club lacrosse is foolish.

Nor saying you shouldn't play travel but that you don't have play travel to get looks from D1 schools. I'm just sick of people saying how many D1 recruits does this organization have or that organization has. Who really cares. Are the kids having fun and are they going to pick a college that suits them is all I care about.

Eastchester middie from Express North committed to High Point. Congrats. I didn't know they played lacrosse in Eastchester?

Ok Daddy. Why so angry? You should be happy. Obviously your son "IS" the next Rabil. One tournament and 43 emails from 43 D1 schools, congrats.
Again, not the typical experience of the average D1 commit. Most need to do many events with club and attend showcases on an individual basis. That is why the club piece is so important. To come on here and give people advise to contrary is just silly. Again, your son is the exception by a wide margin. Not the rule. If you look at the top 100 commits in every grade 95+ percent are travel club players. So by that measure, I would say almost all top recruits needed travel lacrosse. But hey, yours didn't. Be happy, you saved all that money and got the scholarship.

This is why people get mad when they post something on this site. Again it's 10 to 15 emails were sent to my son from D1 schools. He is not the next rabil but is a hard worker. 43 emails from all different schools not all D1 schools. To be honest with you I only went to one prospect camp out of all of the schools that expressed interest. I am very proud but I'm not jumping on the band wagon so I can say my son gave a verbal to blah blah blah. Some of you parents are so full of yourselves it's sickening at times to read. My son will find his way and find the college that's right for him cause that's what I teach him. If he gets money from whatever school he gets into then God bless him if not then so be it. I'm realistic and I know my kid and others that are out there that he is better than that have given a verbal in tenth grade and most of that comes from the parents so that they can brag about their kid. Get real and let your kid make his own choice in life. Support them in every way we can. That's my opinion.

I think you need to differentiate between being recruited and receiving emails from colleges. My son receives daily emails and has heard from dozens of D1 and D3 colleges but that doesn't mean he is being recruited. I think coaches buy lists from showcases, tourneys or club programs. If you are being recruited (hence college coach reached out to your HS or club coach to express interest), you will know. And for the record, exactly 1 college coach has reached out to our club team regarding my son.

How old is your son??? Im assuming he's a sophomore being the forum this conversation is taking place. With that said, Im curious to the content of these 43 emails. With the strict rules NCAA has placed on the coaches, aside from invites to prospect camps, etc., they are PROHIBITED from emailing or calling recruits until their junior year. Care to share?

don't worry. if you respond to an email trolling for "prospect camp" attendees, you are fine. its a mass mailing generated , as prior post said by coaches simply acquiring lists. its NOT a recruiting letter.

Ok, so now all your facts are on the table. To be clear, you're the one that came on here all full of bluster about how people "do not need travel lacrosse to recruited". Those are your words. You are also the one that made it personal, about your own son. You further insinuated he was an example of how you don't need travel lacrosse to get recruited. Again your words. Please, it's time for you to stop.
Receiving an email from a coach about a prospect day is great, very exciting. It can be the first indication of minimal interest. More likely than not, it's a form email where they may or may not have added his name to the email program they use. Even if addressed with his first name. Is it better than not getting any emails? Sure. However, these emails should not be considered as the program recruiting your son. Prospect days are used for two things. One, to get a look at 5-10 kids a program is really interested in. Two, to get $150-$200 from the other 50 or 60 kids to support the program. My son's friends received many emails from events they didn't even attend due to scheduling conflicts.
Please understand, I'm in no way bashing your son, I sure he's a great player.
I am calling you out on your ridiculous advise to people on how they don't need travel lacrosse, when almost all recruits "are" travel kids. Again, if your son is playing at top 4 or 5 HS program on LI and is standout there, then maybe he doesn't need travel. If not, then it's bad advise from someone who clearly has zero understanding of the recruiting process. Believe me, did I enjoy spending all that money club? No, but I cannot argue with the results.
If I had to guess, I would bet you are HS Coach who thinks he's got the recruiting process all nailed down. One that spews nonsense about how "you don't need travel". Pay, I mean play for me all summer. Sound familiar?

If you are truly a parent, and not a HS Coach, I implore you educate yourself on the recruiting process.

Ask yourself these questions:

After receiving these emails, did you call these programs and talk to the Coaches? Did you determine their level of interest?

Did your HS Coach call any of these Coaches to determine interest?

Did anyone talk to the Coaches to determine the actual level of interest?

Did any of these programs call your Coach?
Do you know for sure if your Coach shared with you if any of these Coaches called about your son? I bet you didn't know some HS Coaches will withhold that information for whatever reason. Some just forget. Did you know that?

Did anyone follow up the day after your son attended his prospect day to determine where he stands with the program?

Is your HS Coach proactively reaching out to the schools on your list letting them know what a great player your son is, and how they seriously need to consider him as a recruit?

Look I really don't care what you do, makes no difference to me. Mine are both done. I can tell you from experience, my son's HS Coaches were not doing any of the above. Sadly, they did forget tell us about schools that were interested. They did the same to other kids as well.

Again, when you come on here and spout about how kids don't need travel, you sound clueless. I'm glad we didn't leave my son's dreams and aspirations in the hands of his HS Coaches. By the way, there is real money out there for talented lacrosse kids with decent grades. 25, 40, even 60% of the total cost of college. With schools costing nearly $240,000 for a four year degree, that's between $60,000-$150,000 you're talking about saving. YES, that kind of money is out there for the right player at the right program. If anyone tells you differently, they're either jealous or misinformed.

Ask yourself one last question: Is this the kind of financial situation you're going to leave in the hands of your HS Coach?

Good Luck!

true about parents and the prospect camp delusion. its neither exclusive nor an aggressive recruiting letter. its an advertisement. don't believe the part where it says limited invitees or attendees...they NEVER turn kids down to attend

So naïve this statement is on its face. Yes, The prospect letter is a generic come one come all (NCAA rules and all). But, it is also sent to the kids who have expressed interest (filled out questionnaire) and those that the school has interest in.

To say they never turn down a player, I guess you don't have a goalie. Even the very best of Goalies get shut out at times. I have yet to see 6 attack - 9 middies - and 8 poles at a prospect camp.

No they're not. My son has received many prospect camp letters from schools we never reached out to nor had any interest in. Colleges get lists from previous tournaments/showcases your son has attended. I would venture to guess a majority of the emails sent are off of these lists. Sorry to rain on your parade but not every correspondence from a school means they are interested in recruiting your son. That's the fact sorry to say.

TELL THAT TO MY NEIGHBOR...ITS SO PAINFUL LISTENING TO HIS B.S. I DUCK HIM. I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THOSE!!!

You said previous tournaments but that was the first one. Good try. What about phone calls? That don't count.

long winded story coach, tell it again!. my story, h.s.football team is very good one of the best on li 7 kids recuited. lax team wone 5 games last year 16 kids recuited . no travel in this town.

Only team with 5 wins in Suffolk last year was Longwood. Yes, good football. Only 2 kids at low D-3 listed. In Nassau, Levittown-Divsion had 5 lax wins, pretty good football, not great. Same thing 2 low D-3 laxrecruits. Sewanaka and Freeport also only had 5 lax wins. No recruits listed. Doesn't mean there weren't more, but story sounds like B.S.

Division has pretty good football? Not since the Mid 80's.

Some great advice and I thank you but what do you call a college coach that calls a high school coach to ask about a kid or that he has received email saying that they saw him play which I know for a fact that they were at the tournament. To me I call that expressing interest in the kid. They wouldn't call a coach if they were not interested in recruiting him. Not knocking anyone that plays travel but I know kids from my town that went on to play D1 and only played for their hs teams not travel. So my statement is right that you don't really need travel to go to a D1 school. I hope everyone's kid gets looks from D1 schools if that's what you as parents want for your kid. From what I know is that if you approach a coach he will not talk to you about you kid but if you introduce yourself then they are allowed to talk to you and that came out of the mouth of the college scout. If I'm wrong then I would like to hear from you.

Look, I never said you couldn't get recruited D1 only playing HS. I said the ability to do so is very difficult, unless A: you play for a top program, or B: the kid is just "that" good. I'm not involved with any travel team, just been through the process a few times.
With regard to approaching Coaches at tournaments, I wouldn't do it. That's what your travel coach/hs coach or Director is for. They can freely walk up to them and say, Hey did you see #21? What do you think? Kid is very interested in your program. If your son emailed that Coach prior to the tournament, the Coach may have been there to watch #21 play. Again, for most kids this is a long drawn out process. You and the kid need to be very proactive and out work the other kids and families in the process. Again, if your son is the next Rabil, they will find him. I get it. For everyone else, you had better understand the process, embrace it, and work it. In today's recruiting environment you are competing against really good players on a North American level. There are only approximately 740-760 D1 slots per grade per year. Does playing on a good A level travel team, in competitive tournaments, help you in this process? In my experience, definitely. Don't believe me? Go to lax power, look up recruits per grade, breakdown number of recruits from LI. Further, see how many kids from LI at your son's position have been recruited in his year and year above. Not that many kids, and most are travel. Think of all the kids that play attack or goalie just on LI. Then see how many are D1 commits. Not that many... Process in very difficult, and getting more competitive every year!!!

Having gone through this with our son I can verify that the above post is very accurate. Think about it in these terms; with early recruiting becoming the standard, if one follows the rosters of a given college grad year at the D1 programs, it can be seen how quickly these fill up with kids who haven't even played a game of high school ball.

All of these kids play high level lax on great club teams from around the nation and if your son only plays high school ball he will be severely limiting his access and exposure. Surely there are non-club playing gems that will be picked as kids mature and become ridiculously great players in high school and these will not go unnoticed.

If you haven't been to one of these high powered club lax tournaments you would be surprised at the numbers of kids who display extremely high skill sets at every position.

Is it any wonder then that college coaches crowd the sidelines at these tournaments? I don't mean 5 or 6 coaches...I mean double digits at most games representing every great institution and they are paying serious attention.

like it or not, club ball has its advantages.

What is the best way to go about the recruiting process and how would one know? Naturally they will contact you but prior to all that. Do you take your kid to prospect camps?

Some people believe the best way is to commit to a school early and then let other teams poach because they think you might be good. Usually in the end those kids end up not playing after sophomore year because they see the writing on the wall and they won't be playing in their junior and senior year or the school was not for them but mom and dad want them to go there. It's sad but I see it all the time over the last 15 years. Stop worrying about early committing. Your kids will fit in where they belong and not where mom and dad want for their own egos. Think about it, why does a kid at 15 switch schools in less then 6 months after verbally committing elsewhere. What changed their mind?

the process will take care of itself. let your coaches know which schools the player may be interested in. many times they will contact the college coaches to let them know there is a good player who is interested in them and then the college coach will eventually scout him at one tournament or another. if they are interested they will let your coach know and then the dialogues can start in earnest. other times the player will get noticed of their own accord and the coaches will then contact the players team coach and also start a dialogue.

1. Search the team on internet.
2. Go to "roster" section.
3. Find recruits section.
4. Fill out recruiting questionnaire. Inform of upcoming tournaments/showcases. If he has a video, send the link.
5. Find coaches email address, if there is a specific positional coach, have your son email him his interest in the university first, then the program, in that order.
6. Let the HS/Club coach know of your son's interest in said program and if they have connection ask them to make contact.
7. Keep updating the coaches through emails of progress and submit new video as it comes available.

Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.

The process will NOT take care of itself. I was told by multiple D 1 coaches "If your son wants to play at my school then he needs to show interest, there are a ton of kids out there who want to, and can play lacrosse at the next level, I need to know you to find you."

Couldn't agree more. Process needs to be worked. Advise to the contrary is misleading at best. Every Coach and every assistant Coach on your list of schools that you want to play for needs to know who you are! Plain and simple. Most of the recruiting is done by the assistants! Thinking you're going to a tournament to be "discovered" is not a solid recruiting plan. As good as you think your son is, there are 20 other kids out there who are bigger, stronger, faster, and more talented than yours' with better grades. These Coaches have far more choices in today's recruiting environment than ever before. It is truly a buyers market for them! Look at the rosters of your son's wish list schools, kids from all over the country...

agree. the assistant coaches on sidelines already have the numbers and names of those they want to evaluate. they watch a while, then move to next field to do same.

but those names and numbers do not come from private dad email contacts to college coaches. they come from club/school coach to college coach.

do you seriously think your emails among the hundreds or more that college coaches get that all say come see my son who is great, are actually taken seriously?

they use verifiable sources to start their recruiting.

sorry dad, but your emails are useless.

read the op again before you comment further.

Re read and still disagree. College Coach MUST be contacted. Ask around and coaches will tell you the same, must fill out recruiting questionnaire. Must follow up with emails, they do not know who you are. Unless the coach is widely respected and has the University coach on speed dial its simply not enough.

No need to re-read, the above is how the process works for 99% of all commits. To advise people otherwise is just nonsense.