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High School Lax Girls #149431 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,050 NY B_O_T_C OP Back of THE CAGE OP B_O_T_C Back of THE CAGE Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,050 NY Here you are. Play nice, please.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #149436 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A In reply to the last post of the old thread, look up the article in the Baltimore sun from last year "5 Female UMBC Lacrosse Players Suspended For Threatening Violence " a very real problem about upperclass v. younger players although this was college

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #149462 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Thank you!!

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #149664 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have . On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149682 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149692 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player. Sounds like two good players, some programs would kill for that problem of two good goalies. Unfortunately it seemed like a matter of waiting your turn to play. From the sounds of it both are hugely talented, and you can't fault a coach for starting one over the other. To bad DK wasn't coaching at Holly Trinity last year, the girl could of went there to play.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149699 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player. Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149700 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player. Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit. That whole statement is nonsensical BS.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149703 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A agreed..total nonsense..i dislike DK like everyone else--if not more, but any kid who suits up on a UNC Lax team deserves every bit of plaudits that she has coming...the fact that Elevate was her travel program is a feather in the cap...maybe she got in because of her grades?...who gives a F--K?...she is playing D1 lax on one of the top teams in the country...

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149704 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player. Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit. It doesn't work that way at the top programs. Call any of the top programs (by top I am talking top 20 to 30 or so) and tell the coach "hey, my daughter is a great student and I am not looking for a scholarship" and see what happens. They do not just commit kids because they have good grades and the parents are not looking for a scholarship. There is no need to carry dead wood especially at one of the best programs in the country. The top 10 - 20 programs do not have any trouble filling their rosters with the girls that they "recruit". They also recruit more girls than they "offer" spots to. I would bet that if North Carolina offered her a spot she is pretty damn good.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149708 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have . On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents. You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149719 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player. And the starting goalie was a senior last year so why should she sit for a junior of equal talent? And I'm not saying they're equal. I don't know either of them. But JS knows goalies. He had the 2013 and 2014 D1 goalie of the year. And it was at SBU, not UNC. He builds his teams from the defense out. This young lady comes in as a freshman to unseat the starting goalie, a junior? She's got to be all that and a bag of chips. I'm sure the young lady your taking about its fantastic. But she's only committed to UNC and they probably will have 3 more on the team by the time she gets there. Will she be starting for UNC? Who knows, but I can tell you who is starting this year. Starting for the top defensive unit in the NCAA. I bet you the former HTon coach feels pretty vindicated now.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149720 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have . On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents. You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter. The coach doesn't care about this site. That's a joke. The whole situation is laughable and will work itself out in the spring. The girls in question are either going to help the team win OR they will play the game like they do now and try to run through defenders. That won't work against bigger, stronger better players. So they will have to learn to play a team game. Eventually that will help the team win. Maybe not this year or even next, but in future years it definitely will. The Sayville program has some very talented girls. There is a strong group in 10th grade and some very strong 11th graders; however, there is not much below the current 10th graders. The next best girls are these 7th graders. Are they ready for varsity? Who knows, it's not my call. The coach would probably prefer to get them in now to learn the system so that they can be his core in two years. It makes sense from a coaches perspective, but from a player/parent perspective it's a disaster. Let's see how it goes in the spring and leave this alone.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #149724 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149741 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team. The elevate BS was a joke and all people who know the deal treated it that way. Let him go back to the High School where his kids have played. Not HHS scouting for talent. People aren't that stupid. This was also the first year that 7th graders played at the high school level. there were a few selected by the varsity head coach. Just so happens her daughter who is a good player is in that mix. One would think after an under-achieving season the year before the coach might have had the sense to keep her own kid in middle school for the season she wasn't a must option on JV. Certainly opened the coach to further speculation. You have to feel bad for all involved. Parents should learn, let the players play. If your kid is getting screwed over go to another school. Coaching selections should also have no family ties no matter how well handled, it always gives the people something to complain about.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149742 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149749 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? I brought the same up last year. Is it a budget thing either way it's BS. Same thing with upstate Lakeland/Panas and a few others. Power house programs getting stronger.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149751 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Stop complain and have your school beat them. Both schools are under one umbrella. Middle Country. There's your answer.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149758 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? I brought the same up last year. Is it a budget thing either way it's BS. Same thing with upstate Lakeland/Panas and a few others. Power house programs getting stronger. Oh yeah because the $6,000 coaching salary can't be found in a $100 million school budget. Give me a break. They don't have enough interest, if they did they would have independent teams like every other sport

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149760 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Stop complain and have your school beat them. Both schools are under one umbrella. Middle Country. There's your answer. Teams aren't meant to be district teams but school teams... Get it "school" teams. If not you would not need special dispensations for schools to merge in order to form a team.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149763 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149765 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! what are you going to do next year when Sachem combines Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149766 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. ...You are supposed to recruit...

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149770 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. ...You are supposed to recruit... recruit in 9th grade? aren't they supposed to be able to play by then?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149773 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have . On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents. You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter. The coach doesn't care about this site. That's a joke. The whole situation is laughable and will work itself out in the spring. The girls in question are either going to help the team win OR they will play the game like they do now and try to run through defenders. That won't work against bigger, stronger better players. So they will have to learn to play a team game. Eventually that will help the team win. Maybe not this year or even next, but in future years it definitely will. The Sayville program has some very talented girls. There is a strong group in 10th grade and some very strong 11th graders; however, there is not much below the current 10th graders. The next best girls are these 7th graders. Are they ready for varsity? Who knows, it's not my call. The coach would probably prefer to get them in now to learn the system so that they can be his core in two years. It makes sense from a coaches perspective, but from a player/parent perspective it's a disaster. Let's see how it goes in the spring and leave this alone. Can't see how anyone would question what MR does. He's not my daughters coach and I don't live in Sayville but I wish he was and we wish we did but I'm not crazy enough to move our family for lacrosse. He's right up there with all the best high school coaches on LI and a really good person in addition to that. I just don't understand how any parent can question coaches of this kind of caliber. Whatever his strategy or plan is - it is to make his team stronger and win. If that involves 7th graders then so be it.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149777 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. ...You are supposed to recruit... recruit in 9th grade? aren't they supposed to be able to play by then? ...recruit in the MS years...

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149782 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149785 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to. I never gave the topic much thought but you bring up a very good point. If they are cutting kids I think it needs to be addressed by Section XI. I am pretty sure the parents of the stronger players at Sachem East and West, Smithtown East and West and HHH East and west would be happy to combine in order to become more competitive. No problem if they want to combine and field only one team but they should not have cuts.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149840 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts? Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity! Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes. Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there. And I will go back to the budget and it is not just two coaches salaries like someone posted. If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to. I never gave the topic much thought but you bring up a very good point. If they are cutting kids I think it needs to be addressed by Section XI. I am pretty sure the parents of the stronger players at Sachem East and West, Smithtown East and West and HHH East and west would be happy to combine in order to become more competitive. No problem if they want to combine and field only one team but they should not have cuts.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149856 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Just so you remember, there were three D1 recruit goalies on the team.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #149857 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Maybe his other goalies (he has three more) are not well thought of.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150074 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A It looks like next year Huntington will be playing in the Class A division 2016-2017 season

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150244 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team. So your saying huntington goalie played selfish and ignored the coaches , And the coach did nothing because the parents were loud ? Disagree with that

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150249 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,050 NY B_O_T_C OP Back of THE CAGE OP B_O_T_C Back of THE CAGE Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,050 NY Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team. So your saying huntington goalie played selfish and ignored the coaches , And the coach did nothing because the parents were loud ? Disagree with that Ridiculous.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150262 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Who said goalie, no one. The team overall was free lancing during games. Really difficult to even thing how a goalie would be seen as free lancing, except for perhaps on clears. Which is a whatever. Both goalies are extremely good players and will be team leaders on the next level.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150265 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Huntington ***** Really? I don't know who is posting all this crap but let the girls play lacrosse and let the coach coach. Get a life dad!!!!'nnn

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150288 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A who is going to win suffolk class A this year please reply even though 99% of you do not have a clue !!

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150295 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Everyone knows MC is the team to beat!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150296 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Copaigue

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150329 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Ward Melville will surprise

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150336 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous who is going to win suffolk class A this year please reply even though 99% of you do not have a clue !! Both Smithtowns will contend for the top spot with MC and WM

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150339 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A West Islip will repeat as County champs

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150421 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150429 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150430 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A wardmelville is a sleeper west islip overrated

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150502 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom! Can't stop anonymously picking on 7th grade girls on the internet? So pathetic.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150508 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Ward Melville will surprise Did they get a new coach?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150527 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom! I guess then 4th grader is still probably better than your daughter who didn't get brought up I. Probably why you are crying so much. Go back to the 4th or 5th team of your travel club and keep complaining to those parents. Guess you wasted some $$$

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150562 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ward Melville will surprise Did they get a new coach? Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation???

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150563 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Everyone knows MC is the team to beat! I thought they lost to West Islip??? Guess they are the team to beat, believe they are very well coached and play like a team.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150565 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ward Melville will surprise Did they get a new coach? Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation??? Are you talking about the 2018's at U15?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150582 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ward Melville will surprise Did they get a new coach? Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation??? Wow, you seem to have a lot of animosity. Didn't read the question that way you did at all. Please tell us why "WM will surprise". They have had plenty of talent over the years but they never get it done. What is different this year? If as you say "the talent is there for sure" then the logical question is "did they get a new coach?". What else has changed that would cause them to surprise?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150591 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom! Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150628 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ward Melville will surprise Did they get a new coach? Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation??? I asked the question and I am not disgruntled. Ward Melville has a new AD and there have been rumors about a new coach. True or just rumors?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150654 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom! Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club. She probably does, and still got leap frogged by a 9 year old.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150688 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous How about class B and C ? Who will battle it out with ESM? How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else?? Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom! Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club. She probably does, and still got leap frogged by a 9 year old. You're probably right! That's got to hurt. No wonder why they're bitter.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150691 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150694 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant No bashing, but just making a few points. This question leads to the assumption that the purpose of playing is solely to get recruited. There are girls who get recruited for many reasons, I have heard of girls sending in recruiting videos for Soccer, B-ball and field hockey who included Lax in their recruiting videos to show athleticism and ended up getting recruited to play lax rather than their "primary sport" (doesn't happen often but more frequently than you think). But the majority of recruiting happens in two forums; the first being the club scene, the second being camps and these "elite" showcases such as the Nike 120 (many times arranged through club, but HS coaches can recomend girls as well). Now to the question of whether or not a HS coach is still relevant? The answer is certainly yes, and for a few reasons. Your daughter will spend almost 3 months practicing with the HS coach, so whether or not they are good will impact your daughter's development in one direction or the other, this is huge because your daughter will probably have more HS practices each year (or close) than club. In addition to on field impact, the HS coach can/should still have a supporting presence during recruiting (usually not a primary role). A good coach can/should facilitate needed info to potential college coaches, grades, stats etc. So they are relevant, and the better your HS coach is the more positive impact it will have on the overall development of your daughter and the cast that plays with her.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150697 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant Players get recruited because of "the player" not because of the HS or club coach/director. At least at competitive college programs. There are so many "recruiting" events these days that college coaches watch the players multiple times. Summer tournaments, Fall tournaments, college camps, and several high profile showcase events are all opportunities for college coaches to watch the girls play. When college coaches like what they see they reach out to the player (most of the time it is through the club director). HS coaches are not relevant as far as recruiting is concerned.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150698 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Thanks so much. Very thorough response.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150699 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Thanks so much. Very thorough response.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #150701 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A In my town the Varsity coach is heavily involved in the process. He makes and receives calls daily. He is more involved in the second tier players. The one or two studs get it done through the club scene but many more are helped directly by him.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #150734 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Same goes for one of the girls coaches in our town who is so heavily involved in everything from year long youth lacrosse training , personal fitness trainer , and even a personal life coach for each participant . He also makes sure they play on the best possible travel organization , regardless you can afford it or not , he needs ratings ! Originally Posted by Anonymous In my town the Varsity coach is heavily involved in the process. He makes and receives calls daily. He is more involved in the second tier players. The one or two studs get it done through the club scene but many more are helped directly by him.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #151813 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #151836 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us! Nassau alphabetical order Garden City, Manhasset, Wantagh could wind up in any order at end of season

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #151847 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us! Nassau alphabetical order Garden City, Manhasset, Wantagh could wind up in any order at end of season Sorry forgot Cold Spring Harbor

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #152062 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A where are the Nassau divisions listed?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #152253 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A How many YJ or other LI clubs are represented on the USA today preseason all-American teams?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #152271 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A you would not have asked if you did not already know

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #152314 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous you would not have asked if you did not already know I actually was curious, seems like you are just mad your daughter wasn't selected! Website just lists HS

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #152320 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous How many YJ or other LI clubs are represented on the USA today preseason all-American teams? Lots of LI girls on the 3rd team which is great! Nobody ever likes when an outside publication ranks players because people tend to believe the hype they are fed non stop at ALL CLUBS. Congratulations to all the girls who made the list

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153224 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Top 5 in Suffolk? Nassau? Anyone want to take a shot?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153250 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Top 5 in Suffolk? Nassau? Anyone want to take a shot? Centereach

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153257 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Suffolk middle country, west islip, northport, esm, smithtown Nassau Wantagh, plainedge, garden city, manhassett, syossett no particular order Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Top 5 in Suffolk? Nassau? Anyone want to take a shot? Centereach

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153281 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Plainedge? How can you leave out Cold Spring Harbor.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153317 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Plainedge Really Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore .....

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153326 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Top 5 in Suffolk? Nassau? Anyone want to take a shot? Newfield

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153327 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Plainedge? How can you leave out Cold Spring Harbor. Oyster Bay?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153333 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Oops forgot about csh. Was just off the top of my head Originally Posted by Anonymous Plainedge Really Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore .....

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153396 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Plainedge Really Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore ..... There really isn't much in Plainedges division except Southside. Every game for CSH and North Shore should be a battle. Wantagh, LongBeach, Oceanside, Massapequa, Farmingdale, North Shore, Syosset, CSH, Garden City, Manhasset, North Shore Lynbrook, Hewlett, Bethpage, Southside, Glen Cove, Plainedge, NHP, Roosevelt, Roslyn, Floral Park, Divisions, Friends

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153406 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153424 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153457 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153466 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A or North Shore in B B is stacked.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153478 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A i think North Shore surprises people this year. They will beat one or two of the 3 top teams in B this year

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153479 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs? That is correct...playoffs are by conference (school population size). B is stacked very year with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh, North Shore, LB...

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153497 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A SUFFOLK!! melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153512 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs? That is correct...playoffs are by conference (school population size). B is stacked very year with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh, North Shore, LB... so teams either ask in or ask out of the power conference? Good for CSH.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153599 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A MC will win the county

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153612 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Hmm... What about the defending State Champs?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153615 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous MC will win the county Is that Centereach or Newfield?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153748 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous SUFFOLK!! melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest 1. West Islip. Over the past two years they are 40 - 4 with a State Championship. Good coaching and a winning attitude will take them far. Strong leadership. Coaches and players expect to win. 2. Middle Country. Will compete but last year might have been their year. 18 - 1 last year and combined 29 - 7 over the past two years. I think they will be in the mix. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulder. Are they hungry after last year? 3. Northport. 24 - 12 over the past two seasons. Coaching and tradition will keep them competitive. Not sure the horses are there to win the county but you never know. Usually play with a lot of attitude and emotion. Combine that with being well prepared for big games and they can surprise. 4/5. Toss up Smithtown East / Smithtown West. West is 24 - 10 while East is 23 - 11. the last two seasons. Not sure either team has the depth to challenge the top teams. 6. Ward Melville. 19 - 14 past two years. Historically will make playoffs and then lose to a team that they had beaten during the year. Better than .500 but can't see them winning. Not sure if anyone else has a shot. Sachem East? Good luck to all.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153778 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #153954 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #153972 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ? Honestly thought he was just ranking teams in the A division which I think they did a good job with.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154103 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Mrs. Rose can't win

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154115 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154117 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Mrs. Rose can't win Really, I think Northport has won 7 county championships in the past 14 years. Not sure before 2002.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154126 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154137 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Some not all of the people involved with this lax program have that attitude. I suspect it comes from one of their 2021 Mt. S. youth coaches. Played against both on seperate occasions in different scenarios, and they have been crazy 100% of the time. Real winners those two.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154143 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! What summer club program is that? Don't recall seeing Mt. Sinai at any summer tournaments last year.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154146 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154151 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous. I think they are talking about R P

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154156 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous. I think they are talking about R P Says "Mount Sinai" - how did you get RP out of that?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154159 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Here is the RP post

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154161 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous MC will win the county Is that Centereach or Newfield? How many girls try out for MC Varsity?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154174 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Here is the RP post How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154189 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Here is the RP post How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls. Not to mention the clear conflict of interest with the RP youth / tournament teams he coaches. New AD coming after this year, hopefully with the stones to make some changes.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154200 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Because he offers free mis-informative lacrosse training and free track use on saturdays with every purchase of buying into his BS. Amazing the varsity coach bought into it another year . Some things will never change ! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Here is the RP post How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154210 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A He's known by many nicknames but one thing is for sure he has become " Freemasonry " of girls RP lacrosse .. the secret underworld that will not go away until someone in charge grows a pair of balls and wipes the slate clean ! quote=Anonymous] Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man! This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter! Here is the RP post How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls. Not to mention the clear conflict of interest with the RP youth / tournament teams he coaches. New AD coming after this year, hopefully with the stones to make some changes. [/quote]

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154240 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Believe it or nit not that many as u think. Jv nay only have 15 girls

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154242 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A How do the Varsity and JV numbers look in Huntington? Will they bring any 8th/9th graders up this year?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154252 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Better 8th graders on the move up. That's a fact Jack

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154255 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Anyone have any update on the LI All American games? My daughter is finally of age, and while I know some readers say it's a biased selection it was a great day last year to watch some very talented lacrosse players.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154257 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Better 8th graders on the move up. That's a fact Jack HA-HA-HA-HA

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154267 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154268 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Nut bag parents have final say still

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154289 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Nut bag parents have final say still Just curious, are the parents of juniors and seniors who are not very good also considered nut bags when they lobby for their daughter even when it is clear that younger players are better? Or do you subscribe to the wait your turn model?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154312 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Nut bag parents have final say still Just curious, are the parents of juniors and seniors who are not very good also considered nut bags when they lobby for their daughter even when it is clear that younger players are better? Or do you subscribe to the wait your turn model? Sounds like the usual control issues inherent in the town program – cronyism, living by the bay, maybe being a member of the 'club', travel coach affiliations – and this is just the girls' side. Kind of like most programs, huh?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154315 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154321 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Why are parents "lobbying" for their daughters? Let them tryout/play without your phone calls, emails and texts. You are not the coach and shouldn't be in their ear anyway. Everyone knows the moms and dads who do this over and over.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154326 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 If I may give an opinion, this whole discussion could end if NY State would go to the 4 year varsity rule. Personally, No 7th or 8th grader should play varsity. Say what you want about the best players, but if the district puts in a coach that, in this day and age, only wants to coach during season, and not invest the time in the youth organization, than they should only play with the available players from high school. The only exception should be if not enough girls tryout (20). If you look at the most successful programs all have very good youth programs.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154333 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent? Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids??

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154338 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Re: High School Lax Girls MKVELE #154349 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A That would fix many a problem if Huntington were to adopt that rule. The social impact of girls playing up by such a large margin is monumental.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154351 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154353 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise. thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154354 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154357 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise. HS Coaches do not always play their best players. A HS team that makes no changes in the lineup, ever, from game 1 to the last game is doing so either to make it easy/simple for the coaches for due to the usual HS athletics baloney that goes on in many districts. Not every player will perform at their top level every day in every game. Each game brings a different opponent which likely would warrant tweaking in the players on the field. If this never happens, it's not because a kid or two or three on bench are not as good as a few of the starters who were named on day 1.

Re: High School Lax Girls MKVELE #154363 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise. thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior. "As documented on this site" - yeah, because BOTC is the internet equivalent of 60 Minutes.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154364 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test. Don't kid yourself about the importance of winning at the HS coaching level. A tenured teacher coaching at their own school is very hard to get rid of due to teacher contracts. In fact, that's how lots of them get their coaching jobs in the first place - there is definitely a pecking order and teachers are at the very top.

Re: High School Lax Girls MKVELE #154365 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise. thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior. Is there something wrong with you ? What you said proves nothing , maybe the D3 commit is better or was a better fit, or was a team player, or hustled more, or was a lefty, or the coach just thought was better. Not even sure of what your point is but if you believe that a D1 commit is automatically better than a D3 commit then your previous posts about Spallina make more sense to me.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154366 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A "As documented on this site" - yeah, because BOTC is the internet equivalent of 60 Minutes. [/quote] Funny

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154379 Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1 Georgie Back of THE CAGE Georgie Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 1 I would like to ask the parents of the 7th & 8th graders that feel their daughters Should be on varsity playing over 11th & 12th graders , how they would feel if in 3 or 4 years from now a 7th or 8th grader took their spot because they were equal in talent & the coach was looking towards the future.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154382 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise. thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior. Is there something wrong with you ? What you said proves nothing , maybe the D3 commit is better or was a better fit, or was a team player, or hustled more, or was a lefty, or the coach just thought was better. Not even sure of what your point is but if you believe that a D1 commit is automatically better than a D3 commit then your previous posts about Spallina make more sense to me. thanks ......i think

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154388 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy. Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better. this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test. Don't kid yourself about the importance of winning at the HS coaching level. A tenured teacher coaching at their own school is very hard to get rid of due to teacher contracts. In fact, that's how lots of them get their coaching jobs in the first place - there is definitely a pecking order and teachers are at the very top. Sure, they would rather lose than win? Makes no sense.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154390 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Mr. or Mrs Anonymous, I wasn't going through the whole shabang again concerning last year, go read it yourself, But if you don't think good players are not played by H.S coaches your kidding your self. Be it club alliance, parents, nepotism , or bad coaching it happens all the time

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154399 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A From what I understand, MP has also 'promoted' 2 8th graders and 1 7th grader to varsity; that's the same amount of 10 graders (2) and 9th graders (1) also on varsity. My understanding is that if these girls are promoted to varsity, they have to get playing time. With the core of solid 12 and 11th graders who will play, that is going to leave a bunch of angry 11th and 12th grade parents whose girls aren't playing. MP fired their coach last year because of incompetence and they bring in a quality coach who beings up a 7th and 2 9th graders; this sounds like a train wreck to me. The funny thing is the 7th graders father is cray cray and now he has a 7th grader on varsity and an 11th grader playing jv...let the fun begin.

Re: High School Lax Girls Georgie #154403 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Georgie I would like to ask the parents of the 7th & 8th graders that feel their daughters Should be on varsity playing over 11th & 12th graders , how they would feel if in 3 or 4 years from now a 7th or 8th grader took their spot because they were equal in talent & the coach was looking towards the future. Its about WINNING! Its varsity! If a younger girl is better than a lump thats been carried along on a no cut team then the coach is doing his/her job!

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154410 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A You are wrong! It's not only about winning, but that attitude is what has ruined the sport and a whole lot of friendships along the way. The blinders and desperation to have your child play varsity or have a certain amount of playing time is the whole other dimension to the story.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154412 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A [quote=Anonymous]From what I understand, MP has also 'promoted' 2 8th graders and 1 7th grader to varsity; that's the same amount of 10 graders (2) and 9th graders (1) also on varsity. My understanding is that if these girls are promoted to varsity, they have to get playing time. With the core of solid 12 and 11th graders who will play, that is going to leave a bunch of angry 11th and 12th grade parents whose girls aren't playing. MP fired their coach last year because of incompetence and they bring in a quality coach who beings up a 7th and 2 9th graders; this sounds like a train wreck to me. The funny thing is the 7th graders father is cray cray and now he has a 7th grader on varsity and an 11th grader playing jv...let the fun begin. [/quote Quality coach, good luck w that . How many programs have gotten rid of the new coach in the past several years .

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154414 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent? Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids?? Its riverhead! its a [lacrosse] show run by the parents, their next win over a quality opppnent will be their first

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154422 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent? Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids?? Its riverhead! its a [lacrosse] show run by the parents, their next win over a quality opppnent will be their first Its ridiculous that those kids were moved up. They are good 8th graders but none are the exceptional player, all are on the smaller side, and were moved up as a group because the parents are such a horror that if they moved up 1 or 2 the other parents would have gone ballistic. That program will end up a horrible mess as multiple kids who are actually high school age will end up quitting the team.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154428 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Bringing up the couple of 7th and 8th grade club players is hurting many programs. Girls in 9th, 10th, 11th that are serviceable players are quitting because some underclassman are jumping up in the batting order. So on lots of these teams you have a handful of really good club girls, the middle girls have quit after getting squeezed and the girls filling out the roster were recruited in gym class. The only one benefitting is the 7th and 8th graders padding their athletic resume but the program suffers.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154431 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Last year the Huntington BOE decided that no 7th graders can be on the high school teams. Just saying.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154436 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Last year the Huntington BOE decided that no 7th graders can be on the high school teams. Just saying. That may be the case but it doesn't say anything about the 8th graders being moved up!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154439 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Bringing up the couple of 7th and 8th grade club players is hurting many programs. Girls in 9th, 10th, 11th that are serviceable players are quitting because some underclassman are jumping up in the batting order. So on lots of these teams you have a handful of really good club girls, the middle girls have quit after getting squeezed and the girls filling out the roster were recruited in gym class. The only one benefitting is the 7th and 8th graders padding their athletic resume but the program suffers. Move to NJ, can't play H.S> lacrosse unless you are in the 9th grade. Avoids all of these issues.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154441 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154442 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Let's talk about the varsity coach, who will reamin nameless and has been around for a LONG time, texting girls whether or not they made varsity. That's a little ridiculous!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154448 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154449 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up....

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154456 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154461 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154472 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach? You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154478 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Successful programs develop players. They never have to bring up little kids. It appears that in most cases like this, boys OR girls sports teams, students are pulled up for reasons unrelated to their play (nepotism, father coaches team, father coaches in district, parents pay coach, parent is a board member, etc..). It's pretty silly.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154480 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior. So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154486 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A I hear what your saying, but there are some very good younger players out there. I know its been stated in the past, but whats the difference between sports,music and genius students? No one should be pulled up then? The amazing young music student isn't taking the older music students spot? That conversation is probably going on in the high school music forum.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154488 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior. So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story. No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154491 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Sounds like a bad lowlife daddy coach from our town.. complete Poison!! Although he smiles to everyones face like everyone counts . His inside agenda is to split up and seperate his goons from the rest of the community who doesnt participate because he feels his creation is superior. quote=Anonymous] Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach? [/quote]

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154498 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior. So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story. No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so. Are you dense ? I don't care if they have done it 1 or 5 times they have "an established record " of moving a kid up which gives them a history of doing so. Deservedly so because she became an all American is more an opinion than factual. Knowing the kid she absolutely deserved to be pulled up , knowing the way the all American selection process works tells me that moniker means very little (very political) .The fact remains that any public school that can claim to be defending state champs in girls lacrosse this season have a history of pulling up middle school kids to play varsity lacrosse.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154499 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A A player moving from MS to Jv or Varsity usually occurs in a smaller district. It can be done to help fill out a need in a specific position etc. it can also be done to help give a player valuable experiences that they will not get playing Jr high teams. JV will play more games, usually have better coaching and more intensive training and competition. A players maturity and well being should be considered by the coaches and parents during this time to ensure it is what is best for all involved. Some towns have youth teams that average 10-12 kids per grade, when you lose kids along the way to music, other sports, social interests the need arises to add kids from another grade to support the program.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154506 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up.... Apples to oranges Private schools with the exception of Kellenberg do not have middle schools

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154522 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A really?...St. Marys, Saint Dominic don't have middle schools? ok, now start the bashing....

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154523 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A oh and LuHi?....sure there are few more....

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154530 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up.... Apples to oranges Private schools with the exception of Kellenberg do not have middle schools Forget the MS at Kellenberg, they don't even pull up deserving sophomores!!

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154533 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior. So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story. No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so. Are you dense ? I don't care if they have done it 1 or 5 times they have "an established record " of moving a kid up which gives them a history of doing so. Deservedly so because she became an all American is more an opinion than factual. Knowing the kid she absolutely deserved to be pulled up , knowing the way the all American selection process works tells me that moniker means very little (very political) .The fact remains that any public school that can claim to be defending state champs in girls lacrosse this season have a history of pulling up middle school kids to play varsity lacrosse. You're kind of right, If you do something once you have a history, Doing that thing continuously establishes a policy. Over the last 9 years of L.I. and State champs you can see a pattern.Not being sure of the make up of every team involved, I'm pretty sure FDale, 'set, GC and NPT, do not make bringing up M.S. kids policy ( not that they don't do it, the kid needs to be special) I am not sure about SWR so maybe someone can tell us, I'm pretty sure at the time it wasn't policy out of 9 years (2007-2015) FDale made 8 Li champ winning 6 with 6 state titles GC made 6 LI champ winning 6 with 6states SWR made 5 LI champ winning 5 with 5 states 'set made 6 LI champ winning 1 with 1 state NPT made 3 LI champs winning 1 with 1 state This history tells me that schools that play MOSTLY upperclassmen win, schools that resort to pulling up M.S. kids don't fare as well

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154537 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Are the people that make the most noise about this the parents who's kid gets bumped for a younger player and then they all cry foul? To the vocal posters, if it was your 8th grader getting pulled up would you tell the coach no she's too young?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154542 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior. So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story. No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so. Absolutely the kid is a stud

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154558 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach? You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that. No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game". No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do. You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154560 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154562 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Originally Posted by Anonymous Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many. It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list

Re: High School Lax Girls MKVELE #154563 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many. It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players .

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154566 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many. The girls lax world is a small one. You end up knowing most all of the top girls in an age group across all LI clubs rather quickly. Of all the girls I know being brought up from 7-8, they are mostly all deserving. There are also some deserving girls who will not be brought up because their districts just don't do that. Every year LI produces a small group of girls who are the household names of NCAA women's lacrosse. Know what most of them have in common? they were also brought up early. Will every girl brought up pan out? NO, Will girls not brought up never become the next Fortunato or Gilroy? NO to that as well. Be happy for the girls and move on, these girls will have a 5-6 year varsity career, if your [lacrosse] bent on hating, you have a long road ahead.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154576 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 MKVELE Back of THE CAGE MKVELE Back of THE CAGE Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 57 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many. It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players . I also didn't mention CSH, Sayville, Wantaugh or North Shore for the same reason, their history is relatively short at this point but you didn't mention them why, is it because your knowledge of lacrosse stops at 110, I said I wasn't sure about SWR but I'm willing to bet the at the time they had there run the need for M.S. players was much less than it is today. The point of the post is to show how the traditionally strong programs have little need to bring up MS players because the programs are strong from youth through high school. GC, FDale, and 'set rarely, if ever bring up MS players, or even start freshman because they don't have to, and they all had, and still have excellent players that waited there turn and didn't cry about it. As far as Mt. S and ESM go lets see if they can consistently win over a number of years with MS girls being brought up, if they do I will be the first to stand up and say you were right

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154580 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Why are you so [lacrosse] bent on having an 7th or 8 th grader play on varsity? What's the appeal?

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154584 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Huntington finally got it right this year. Politics from last year seemed to have resonated with the school because they don't seem to be allowing a parent dictated program. Time will tell if they can keep the lunatic fringe parents out of decision making.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154586 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Huntington finally got it right this year and don't seem to be allowing a parent dictated program.

Re: High School Lax Girls MKVELE #154591 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many. It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players . I also didn't mention CSH, Sayville, Wantaugh or North Shore for the same reason, their history is relatively short at this point but you didn't mention them why, is it because your knowledge of lacrosse stops at 110, I said I wasn't sure about SWR but I'm willing to bet the at the time they had there run the need for M.S. players was much less than it is today. The point of the post is to show how the traditionally strong programs have little need to bring up MS players because the programs are strong from youth through high school. GC, FDale, and 'set rarely, if ever bring up MS players, or even start freshman because they don't have to, and they all had, and still have excellent players that waited there turn and didn't cry about it. As far as Mt. S and ESM go lets see if they can consistently win over a number of years with MS girls being brought up, if they do I will be the first to stand up and say you were right ESM decided that starting this year, no more middle school girls will be brought up. They realized the disaster from last year was not worth the trouble.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154595 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach? You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that. No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game". No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do. You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above. None of the above, a coach though. And I laugh at jack offs such as yourself who this they can sum up coaching in a few lines. Like I said go read a Wooden book rather than copy and paste some list.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154597 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A What disaster?? Winning States??

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154604 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything? Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity. Good Coaches: - know how to earn the respect of their players. - know how to identify talent. - know how to develop talent. - know how to utilize talent. - know how to encourage. - know how to build confidence. - know how to lead. - know how to teach. - know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm. - know how to help kids develop character. - know how to motivate. - know how to build comradery. - know how to create a positive environment. - know how to get the most of of their players. - know how to build a team. - know how to do the right thing. - know how to learn from mistakes. - know how to make adjustments. - know how to lose. - know how to coach. - know how to win. A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above. Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes. Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful. How is your coach? You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that. No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game". No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do. You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above. None of the above, a coach though. And I laugh at jack offs such as yourself who this they can sum up coaching in a few lines. Like I said go read a Wooden book rather than copy and paste some list. Wow, very angry bitter. Nobody tried to sum up anything. Just a quick list of some of the things a good coach will know how to do. I would suggest that you go back to reading your books but the fact that you have difficulty grasping the gist of a simple post tells me that you have no chance of comprehending, retaining or applying any of the information contained in the books that you claim to have read.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154642 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Or you can be in the right place at the right time have a daughter who plays for CR on YJ and be a copy cat coach with no real knowledge or experience other then what you see them do during practices and not really comprehend anything on why it's done that way , But have your own opinion and run with it while people buy into what you sell. Yea you know that A HOLE coach that took the bull by the horns because everyone else just sits around and complains so his head swelled up when he learned people are guliabe and felt he is far beyond knowledge then any coach on the island , you know the one that everyone hates but puts on that happy face around him because they have to put up with it or be singled out.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154676 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Or you can be in the right place at the right time have a daughter who plays for CR on YJ and be a copy cat coach with no real knowledge or experience other then what you see them do during practices and not really comprehend anything on why it's done that way , But have your own opinion and run with it while people buy into what you sell. Yea you know that A HOLE coach that took the bull by the horns because everyone else just sits around and complains so his head swelled up when he learned people are guliabe and felt he is far beyond knowledge then any coach on the island , you know the one that everyone hates but puts on that happy face around him because they have to put up with it or be singled out. Who and what are you talking about

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154688 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A What disaster?? Winning States??

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154720 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154734 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154741 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. Typical, rather than address the situation and come up with a policy that is fair, the AD took the easy way out. Maybe he is spending to much time fighting of discrimination accusations and suits from Female Phys Ed teachers (3 of them, FOIL it) to put work in on a thoughtful policy. This would of never happened if the Coach was a male coach.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154746 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154750 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154752 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" . You sure have a chip on your shoulder. I never said the best kids shouldn't play. that's all subjective but let's not get into that now. A high school team is no different than a college team than a professional team. Decisions have to be made for the good of the organization (district) first and the team next. Just as no professional team should be run around one individual (ask the Knicks - that hasn't worked out so well for them, has it?), no high school team should be run solely around one girl or one select group of girls. And by the way, my "mediocre" kid is getting substantial athletic money (academic money too) from a top 40 school (No, not a top 20 school but that was by design as she wants to play not potentially watch and hope to play).

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154758 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" . Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154764 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" . Don't worry, Chief, your kid's D1 full ride will still be there even if she plays varsity as a sophomore. It must be hard for her to play with mediocre players... poor thing.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154766 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Who says she's going to play at the top 40 school? Its all subjective

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154769 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" . You sure have a chip on your shoulder. I never said the best kids shouldn't play. that's all subjective but let's not get into that now. A high school team is no different than a college team than a professional team. Decisions have to be made for the good of the organization (district) first and the team next. Just as no professional team should be run around one individual (ask the Knicks - that hasn't worked out so well for them, has it?), no high school team should be run solely around one girl or one select group of girls. And by the way, my "mediocre" kid is getting substantial athletic money (academic money too) from a top 40 school (No, not a top 20 school but that was by design as she wants to play not potentially watch and hope to play). First off a high school team should be run considerably different from a college team ,and a pro team is a whole other story. Your by design statement is just ridiculous, how do you know the team will not be a top 10 team by the time your kid goes there, what makes you think your kid is guaranteed playing time at any school. That said at the high school level what is best for each kid as an individual has to be taken into account .If a kid is talented enough and it is in the best interest of that kid to play varsity then it should not be that kids problem that other kids ego or their parents ego may get hurt.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154772 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Sounds like someone is seething that dear daughter did not make the HS team. better get your pen and paper out and start writing your letters to the BOE and the AD. That will get her moved up in proper order. It worked last year, why not give it the old college try and push yourself on the team again this year.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154774 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Pulling up middle school kids did not help Huntington the past couple of years to win States or anything else. Maybe this year will be different because we have coaches who will know how to utilize ALL the talent on their bench, not just the same rotation of players.

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154779 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Okay - you're right. I'm wrong. About everything. Your kid, my kid, your school, college, the presidential election and the state of the world in general. Feel better?

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154782 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What disaster?? Winning States?? I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD. That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration. It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order. That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" . Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone. Ahh there it is the new me first lacrosse mentality. I hate that people like you are ruining our sport

Re: High School Lax Girls Anonymous #154813 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Sounds like someone is seething that dear daughter did not make the HS team. better get your pen and paper out and start writing your letters to the BOE and the AD. That will get her moved up in proper order. It worked last year, why not give it the old college try and push yourself on the team again this year. You got it backwards. Last year when the Esm older kids lost playing time to the move UPS, it was the parents of the older kids who took to writing, complaining, throwing teammates, coaches, AD, board member and anyone else under the bus. Got very ugly on here last year. ESM has too many players and all the parents think their kid is great, especially the group that is chocking out middle school and JV right now looking to get to varsity. I do feel bad because I know some decent players that will never see the field and may end up leaving the sport. Its nice to have a strong youth program but when it has to narrow down for school it becomes cut throat and toxic.

Re: High School Lax Girls B_O_T_C #154819 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Very well said. It's the same in our district as well.